Calling out Bruiser Conversions!

[WJCO]

This was your original quote:

I'd rather take a shitty shop thats close and I can keep going back for them to fix it, than a great shop across the US.

This next statement of yours is quite different:

Even bad shops turn out some great work once in a while. There is a local shop that Im not a fan of. .......... However, this same shop put my track bar mount on 1.5" outboard from where it should be and sent me on my way with 1/4" thread left in my trackbar. Shit happens. And I'd rather be able to drive over to the shop and handle it face-to-face instead of communicate by email or playing phone tag wondering how they are going to fix their error.

A mistake or two that the shop truly tries to fix is one thing. What happened at the start of this thread with Bruisers is way different. And your quote above: 'shitty shop,' and 'I can keep going back for them to fix it' is way different. Shops DO make mistakes. But if it is over and over repeatedly, and what appears to be 'dishonest business' like the start of this thread, then it's stupid to keep going back. Find another shop.

 

[MR.Ty]

Along with all the other quotes. Just take a moment and think about it. Even bad shops turn out some great work once in a while. There is a local shop that Im not a fan of. They build an exceptional rig that is on the forum here and the reason for it is the owner made a point to show up there every Friday afternoon and get an update. Im not going to name it, but it has it's own build and even WJCO has a couple posts drooling over it. However, this same shop put my track bar mount on 1.5" outboard from where it should be and sent me on my way with 1/4" thread left in my trackbar.

Also, Ive met a lot of AEV Hemi Conversion owners in AZ having overheating problems. I think they know what they're doing. Friend of mine had the dealership do AEV fixes since and AEV paid for it.

Shit happens. And I'd rather be able to drive over to the shop and handle it face-to-face instead of communicate by email or playing phone tag wondering how they are going to fix their error.

Don't be shy, if a shop screwed something up say their name. You know, so people can make informed decisions and not resort to the shit show of a shop that is down the road. It doesn't matter how many face to face interactions you have with a shitty mechanic, they are still going to be a shitty mechanic.

Secondly, it has been documented from day two that the AEV Hemi swap, or any Hemi swap for that matter has over heating problems. It is the reason why Eddie and Cindy chose to put an LS in Moby, that and the over all weight of the engine.

 

[TonyT]

This was your original quote:



This next statement of yours is quite different:



A mistake or two that the shop truly tries to fix is one thing. What happened at the start of this thread with Bruisers is way different. And your quote above: 'shitty shop,' and 'I can keep going back for them to fix it' is way different. Shops DO make mistakes. But if it is over and over repeatedly, and what appears to be 'dishonest business' like the start of this thread, then it's stupid to keep going back. Find another shop.

Perhaps you're reading into it too much, or Ive had too long of a day. Im half a day ahead of you where Im at. (Riyadh) Regardless of whats happened. Bruiser must not have been that difficult to deal with, cause the green Jeep has spent a lot of time there, two motors, a ton of money exchanged, and they seem to have come to an solution. The owner just wants it done right, as Im sure we all would like to see.

Don't be shy, if a shop screwed something up say their name. You know, so people can make informed decisions and not resort to the shit show of a shop that is down the road. It doesn't matter how many face to face interactions you have with a shitty mechanic, they are still going to be a shitty mechanic.

Na, I'll pass. It was an honest mistake of placing the synergy bracket on a new PR44. You'd think it was in the right spot the way it lines up. They made it right. They offered to remove the axle, cut off and re weld the bracket were it should be, but I got an 1.5" longer trackbar and called it a day. That was almost 2 years ago and the jeep seems fine. They're going to put in a rear XD60 shortly.

 

[Ddays]

Well, Im in AZ. There's plenty of shops here. If I had your attitude I'd have no where to go.

I don't know why you guys seem to think Im against you. I talked to Bruiser Conversions back in 2012 about a 4bt motor swap. I didn't care for the guy's attitude, and I checked his BBB background. Reason enough to not follow through with it.

Are ALL the shops there bad!?! Holy smokes!

I'm not taking it as anyone against anyone and you sound like a reasonable guy. I just don't like giving assholes a second whack on my vehicles. I guess I'm lucky and have found decent guys in my area.

 

[sipafz]

I'm just going to assume the you hit your head playing pokemon or something. You talking in circles.

 

[TonyT]

Are ALL the shops there bad!?! Holy smokes!

I'm not taking it as anyone against anyone and you sound like a reasonable guy. I just don't like giving assholes a second whack on my vehicles. I guess I'm lucky and have found decent guys in my area.

Yea, I can appreciate that. My Jeep buddies and I do most of the work on our jeeps. I don't do gears or large fabrication jobs though. Above my skill level and I just don't have the time. Especially now working out of the country 11 months of the year.

I am intrigued by small business. I remember when Bruiser Conversions got popular back in 2011 with their 4BT installs. They had a killer marketing promotion and were everywhere. I went to Moab that year in 2012 and I got the Diesel bug real bad. There was the Bruiser Conversions "Red Rock" Jeep, Hawk Designs' 2 Door, and MBRP's RattleTrap. I wheeled Metal Masher on day2 being right behind RattleTrap most of the day and that rig was incredible.

When I had the funds ready for an engine swap, I called Bruiser and spoke to Jeff. He answered my questions, let me know a lot of his clients are in my line of work and it's nothing to have the Jeep shipped to them, they do the work then put a couple hundred miles on it before shipping it back to my door step. That's when I did my due-diligence on their shop and I found a company by the name of Jeff's Jeep Yard registered at their address and they had awful reviews. Reviews nightmares are made of. :naw:
Then watching this YOUTUBE clip posted right after EJS you'll notice at 0:43 he slides in "it's offload only." That was a red flag. Then not long afterward their forum involvement dwindled and they just seemed to have disappeared. Other than the people who's jeeps they ruined. They kept showing up blasting their experience all over the web just like the OP here.

Anyway,http://www.bruiserjeepreview.com is a good read. (Sorry if it's been posted in this thread.) Some of these people spend over 90K+ with these guys. You'd think litigation wouldn't be that difficult to start. I wonder if there is some paperwork before the build begins that is the reason these guys haven't gone away.

 

[TonyT]

I'm just going to assume the you hit your head playing pokemon or something. You talking in circles.

Okay dude. Whatever blows your skirt up.

 

[Thegreenmachine12]

Makes about as much sense as Hillary.

I agree!!!

 

[Thegreenmachine12]

Knowing what I do now, I would have much rather driven out west to MoTech and had it done right the first time!!!

 

[Zstairlessone]

?.... I'd rather take a shitty shop thats close and I can keep going back for them to fix it, than a great shop across the US. Especially if the shop I'm working with is doing what they can to deliver me a quality product.

Hey, just go out and buy a bunch of TerrorFlex parts to build your rig, same principle.

Edit: and that's like taking it to a bunch of 8 year olds, they will do what they can to deliver you a quality built Jeep - but they never will 'cause they simply don't know what the f*%£ they are doing.

 

[Pogo0430]

Hear you brother

I have recently with in the past 2 year had an engine put in by them as well. So far I have had nothing but issues with it. I originally took my jeep down there August of 2015 and didn't get it back till January 2016. Lets just say they dragged their feet on the build a little bit. Luckily I was deployed for most of that time so I didn't need the jeep at the time. My jeep is my daily driver though so some of the issues I have had are very frustrating. When I went to go pick my jeep up it wasn't even ready and I sat there all day while they tried to fine tune it for the road and failed to do so by the end of the day so I left with what I had and have been reading on my own and fine tuning it ever since. Right when I got home my fuel pump started to leak and I called them and they said they couldn't help because that wasn't a part that they built the just installed it. Right from there I knew how it was going to go with these guys. I deployed again in June of 2016 and while I was gone my wife got the fuel pump fixed from a local dealer and bruiser said they would cover the bill but I'm still waiting on that to happen. Once I got home I have had one issue after another; my radiator was boiling over and I had to flush it because it was sludgy from rust deposit I am assuming from the block but I figured that would have been done when they put the engine in. Also I have only put about 15,000 miles on the new engine and transmission. Now I have an issue where my fan just never shuts off as soon as I start the jeep the fan comes on I have replaced everything but the fan. When I called to ask them about it the had no clue what would cause it. I am also having brake vacuum issues that are dangerous and annoying. Also I have noticed the way they ran almost all of the hoses and wires is causing them to rub somewhere and I am going to tackle to reroute or support them before I have a fire or loose some fluids somewhere on the road. Also when I when down there to their shop I was very disappointed when how they ran their business. It's latterly like a bunch of buddy's got together and decided to throw a shop together. They had absolutely zero professionalism and even the owner Jeff didn't impress me much. I am in the military and work on jet for a living, I know what clean efficient maintenance looks like and that wasn't it. I thought I did good homework on the companies that did the diesel conversions before I did mine but I guess not. I wish I had better things to say because they could have a awesome business their if they actually cared about their costumers but guess not. If your thinking about a conversion with bruiser STAY AWAY!!!!!! I have had lengthy talks with Jeff Daniels jeeps up in PA and they have helped a lot as well maybe check them out.

 

[jkris]

That's a shame. I live about 15-20 minutes from them and would NEVER do business with them after hearing everyone's horror stories. Especially hits home with you being in the military. I know from experience being in the military you just don't have the time or money to be dealing with issues like that.
As many people that have issues, I am surprised there isn't some sort of class action lawsuit!
Or maybe you all could call News Channel 8 here (the local tv station in the Tampa area) that's really good at investigative journalism and put them on on blast!


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[j33716]

I Love my Bruiser Jeep

I can only speak for my own experiences.

I have a 2016 Bruiser with the LS3-450. With 2000 miles so far everything's great. I am thinking about having another built for 2017.

If you are unhappy or thinking of selling your diesel, please email me

 

[WJCO]

I can only speak for my own experiences.

I have a 2016 Bruiser with the LS3-450. With 2000 miles so far everything's great. I am thinking about having another built for 2017.

If you are unhappy or thinking of selling your diesel, please email me

Welcome to Wayalife. Nothing like capitalizing on someone else's misfortune. Never let a good crisis go to waste, right?

 

[notnalc68]

If you can read, you'll see he no longer has a diesel.


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[j33716]

bruiserjeepreview.com is BS

Anyway,http://www.bruiserjeepreview.com is a good read. (Sorry if it's been posted in this thread.) Some of these people spend over 90K+ with these guys. You'd think litigation wouldn't be that difficult to start. I wonder if there is some paperwork before the build begins that is the reason these guys haven't gone away.[/QUOTE]

When I first read the page it concerned me. Further reading showed it was just one guy crying his story and trying to pretend it is many. My impression of him now is he is just a cry baby that dove in too deep and can't afford what he started. Classic big shot that acting bigger than he is.

bruiserjeepreview.com is one guy that decided that he should go online to cry instead of getting the problem fixed. He sells ammo and hides that he doesn't even have a real company, just a DBA. Works from home and try's to act bigger than he is. Point is, bruiserjeepreview.com is ONE bad experience trying to appear as many. Notice he only posts bad remarks written by himself. He refuses to post positive reviews.

bruiserjeepreview.com is a BS web page.

 

[j33716]

If you can read, you'll see he no longer has a diesel.


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yeah, I didn't read 30+ pages of this thread
got kinda old after a while

 

[WJCO]

yeah, I didn't read 30+ pages of this thread
got kinda old after a while

Yet you felt the need to come here and solicit that some other page was full of shit....did you take the time to read that one or was it too old after awhile? Who are you and what's your point?

 

[notnalc68]

Anyway,http://www.bruiserjeepreview.com is a good read. (Sorry if it's been posted in this thread.) Some of these people spend over 90K+ with these guys. You'd think litigation wouldn't be that difficult to start. I wonder if there is some paperwork before the build begins that is the reason these guys haven't gone away.

When I first read the page it concerned me. Further reading showed it was just one guy crying his story and trying to pretend it is many. My impression of him now is he is just a cry baby that dove in too deep and can't afford what he started. Classic big shot that acting bigger than he is.

bruiserjeepreview.com is one guy that decided that he should go online to cry instead of getting the problem fixed. He sells ammo and hides that he doesn't even have a real company, just a DBA. Works from home and try's to act bigger than he is. Point is, bruiserjeepreview.com is ONE bad experience trying to appear as many. Notice he only posts bad remarks written by himself. He refuses to post positive reviews.

bruiserjeepreview.com is a BS web page.[/QUOTE]



What is your point. The guy that started this thread is a 19 year old college student.


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[j33716]

Yet you felt the need to come here and solicit that some other page was full of shit....did you take the time to read that one or was it too old after awhile? Who are you and what's your point?

I read the comment that bruiserjeepreview.com was interesting reading and went there.

yes I read the bruiserjeepreview.com website. It was suspicious of the content claiming to be honest and fair because it only had bad reviews and seemed to be repetitive. So I looked further. I found the owner and a bunch of other info too. I submitted a positive review and got rejected. I assume it's just a guy trying to do as much damage as possible because he is unhappy.

I posted my opinion here. If you don't like it that's ok.

So who are you and what's your point?