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Thats how they do it in California. We'd go out to the desert and trails that had open for years would be shut down by some California senator that has never been out there.

It honestly looks like the A/C discharge line. Those foam gaskets are famous for letting water back in at highway speeds and soaking the passenger floor board. If you aren't losing coolant then that is what it is.

I use to live in Southern California and they definitely find any reason to close down a trail. Even way out in the middle of no where. It's pretty sad if you ask me.

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Thats good to know. I definitely want good quality with a warranty

Pull the old pan if you can and take a peek.

Yeah your engine sounds messed up. Sounds like it is more than hydro locked.

I agree. I'm shopping around and looking at the reviews.

Yeah I can't argue your point. This is a one time thing that I want to do. I'll look at some Warns

Yeah I know you get what you pay for so that why I'm doing research and asking around

Yeah I'm still looking. I need to find a good bumper now. I'm not really in too much of a hurry. I want to get it done before my run to Windrock this summer.

Yeah I'm basically going off of what different people have. I see plenty of Warns and those Badlands winches. I know the Badlands seems to be the go to winch of the YouTuber, but I haven't seen too many complaints.

I gotcha. Yeah I only want to put this thing on one time. 😬

Well I've just read reviews and haven't seen anyone say anything bad about them. I'm pretty sure they are made in California too. If they don't last then that's good to know.

Yeah I definitely want to maintain the height of my Jeep

Well I kinda like those Badland Apex 12k winches. Yeah a small spacer was recommended to me also for the small amount of sag.

So I have a 2020 Jeep Wrangler JLU Willys with a 2 inch Mopar lift with 35s. I want to add a winch bumper and 12k winch. I was wondering if anyone has had experience in the front end sagging when adding 200 lbs. I've looked online and it's mixed reviews.

My Cherokee Trailhawk I used to have had low range and a rear locker.

I know general grabber A/Ts are horrible for wandering. They put a new set on my work truck and it grabbed every hole in the road.

I took my 2016 Cherokee Trailhawk many places when I had it. The only issues I had with it was I had to replace a rear spring perch (lower control arm) that i messed up on the trail and had the dealer replace the PTU in it. Other than that it was a fun Jeep to drive. It was very capable.