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wayoflife

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Not that I think it would ever happen but, what do you think of this...

Petition to Split California Into 6 States Gets Green Light
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A venture capitalist who feels colossal California is too unwieldy to govern is proposing to split it into six separate states, and Secretary of State Debra Bowen has given him the green light to start collecting petition signatures.

Tim Draper filed a ballot initiative in December stating that because of recent social and economic changes California has become "nearly ungovernable."

He proposed dividing California into six states. San Diego and Orange County would make up "South California." "West California" would include Los Angeles and Santa Barbara, while Bakersfield, Fresno and Stockton would make up the larger "Central California." San Francisco and San Jose would be in the new "Silicon Valley." "North California" would include the Sacramento area, and "Jefferson" would be home to the Redding and Eureka areas.

"California as it is is ungovernable," Draper told ABC News today. "It is more and more difficult for Sacramento to keep up with the social issues from the various regions of California. With six Californias, people will be closer to their state governments, and states can get a refresh".

Brendan Nyhan, Assistant Professor of Government at Dartmouth College, isn't sold on the idea. "Splitting California into six states would raise all sorts of concerns about the partisan balance of the senate. I can't imagine this would ever go anywhere" said Nyhan.

Nyhan says a plan like this would surface many issues. Things like water policy, agricultural policy, and even the electoral college would all change if this plan were to take action.

The plan aims to settle California's financial issues after the separation of the states. If things can't be resolved, each state would receive a portion of the state's debts based on the newly created state's population.

If the federal government approves creating six new states, "all tax collections and spending by the existing State of California would end, with its assets and liabilities divided among the new states," Secretary of State Debra Bowen said in a statement on Tuesday.

That would leave decisions regarding taxes and public spending of the new states up to its elected leaders.

If California were its own separate country, it would have the eighth-largest economy in the world.

In order to make this plan a reality, Draper needs to start collecting signatures in order to qualify the petition for a ballot. He needs the signatures of 807,615 registered voters in 150 days, making his deadline July 18, 2014.

"We are going to put together a grass roots effort to get signatures," Draper said. "It looks very promising since there are already several movements to create new states here".

You can read the article here:
http://news.yahoo.com/petition-spli...een-light-213801353--abc-news-topstories.html
 

Sharkey

Word Ninja
I've always thought the borders of Nevada and California should be redrawn west to east across both states. SoCal and SoNev could become one state; NorCal and NorNev would become another. Politically, the northern halves of both states are much more similar; the same is true for the south (sorry LV guys and gals but it's the truth.) The line just needs to be drawn in a way that we get Tahoe and SoNevCal gets San Francisco. :bleh:
 

SDG

Caught the Bug
Make it 7 states and you have a deal. The 7th should be hollyweird and burbank calabasa and any location where a kardasian or loud mouthed hollywood A listers congregate.
 

cozdude

Guy with a Red 2-Door
THIS is really interesting! i havent read the whole article but i will after work for sure
 

GCM 2

New member
You forgot one....

There are actually 7 Californias......Phoenix, Arizona has inherited a great portion of those who cannot afford to live in Southern California anymore. ;)
 

BlackRockBurner

New member
This will destroy any reasonable form of governance. Gerrymandering to an extreme. Southern Cal will go to war for water.
People forget that Americas strength is in its diversity of people and ideas that can unify when led correctly. Divided we fall and fail.
 
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OverlanderJK

Resident Smartass
Make it 7 states and you have a deal. The 7th should be hollyweird and burbank calabasa and any location where a kardasian or loud mouthed hollywood A listers congregate.

Except for Kendall, she can stay. I'll take her and move to Jefferson. :thumb:
 

stweasel

Member
I've always thought the borders of Nevada and California should be redrawn west to east across both states. SoCal and SoNev could become one state; NorCal and NorNev would become another. Politically, the northern halves of both states are much more similar; the same is true for the south (sorry LV guys and gals but it's the truth.) The line just needs to be drawn in a way that we get Tahoe and SoNevCal gets San Francisco. :bleh:

The only good part is it would increase the water rights of southern Nevada out of Lake Mead, That being said I hope we never get your version of a master plan:misery: I prefer Nevada as it is without the complete Californication of it. P.S. Reno it seems is politically similar to Las Vegas.

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beans

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A majority of both the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate would have to approve the break-up of California into six states. This means the creation of five net new states, and ten additional U.S. Senators (Assuming the incumbent U.S. Senators don't feel wierd about it) and 5 additional governors, 5 more capital buildings and supporting infrastructure and employees-- each having to be supported by taxes. This would certainly be interesting :D
 

Sharkey

Word Ninja
The only good part is it would increase the water rights of southern Nevada out of Lake Mead, That being said I hope we never get your version of a master plan:misery: I prefer Nevada as it is without the complete Californication of it. P.S. Reno it seems is politically similar to Las Vegas.

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There is far more to politics in this state than whether someone votes red or blue in a presidential election.
 

Shadow's_Jeep

Caught the Bug
That is a fact, back in 1941 :thumb:

There are road signs all over the back road's from Redding , CA to Klamath Falls , OR. that say State of Jefferson.
There is even a sign painted on a barn in Southern Oregon , that has State of Jefferson on the roof, that you can see from I-5 freeway.
The Jefferson State radio is in Grants Pass ,Oregon.

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Jkzinger

Caught the Bug
I would love it as long as Stockton is in East Central California! They can have Sac, SF, San Jose, Silicon Valley and SoCal.
 

BlackRockBurner

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ImageUploadedByWAYALIFE1394231709.997323.jpg So, how are the new states going to pay for roads and schools when they now have lower incomes, lower tax revenue and higher poverty? Clearing snow in just one winter storm will wipe fiscal budget.
 
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