Jiffy05
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A Prius actually does more harm to the environment than a normal car does.
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A Prius actually does more harm to the environment than a normal car does.
pastorwug
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Shhhhhhh - Al Gore doesn't want to wake up.
Jiffy05
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That was not said then. :dont_tell:
StrizzyChris
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By definition, this is terribly inaccurate!
^^^this! Scientists were shitting themselves the first few years of the national spotlight on ice caps melting....then they did their FACT finding scientific due diligence and realized that this happened many years before the "humans and all their Fords were the only thing that could be responsible". I remember growing up these same FACTS were that hairspray cans released the gasses responsible for all the holes in our ozone layer.
The biggest thing i have learned from my profession is...if you keep looking for FACTS in your science and you'll also keep finding holes in them my good man!
Sharkey
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I've got a family member who is quite literally a nuclear physicist. His dad is in the Smithsonian as one of the creators of the first U.S. Satellites. Smart people for sure.
Anyway, a few years ago I asked him about global warming. He responded as follows: "We [a team of scientists with whom he works] have been tracking the temperature on Mars for many years. The temperature on Mars is climbing at the same rate as here on Earth. I'm quite certain there are no SUVs on Mars."
That was the end of our discussion.
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TheStick
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That's why it's impossible to have the discussion without politics. The actual data on the subject is extremely limited when you consider the number of years data has been collected and it's relevance to the cycles on earth. Changes over the last century is a drip in the bucket when trying to determine what is happening overall.
But the politics is what makes it so debated. If it were just the discussion of the facts, the discussion would end quickly.
Data on temperatures over a small amount of time are facts but what they mean is where the debate and politics come in. Whether it's man made or not is still in discussion between real scientists, just not certain politicians.
Look at the laws that have come from the political side of the issue. Less liberty as is usually the case.
“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
StrizzyChris
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TheStick....with some more logical responses like that...you may quickly become my new favorite "less vocal member" :daydream:
Landman
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I disagree, political involvement is only the result of money being trickled down the pipeline, and you or me believing one political backing over another. The real issue at hand is what kind of impact are we having, how long do we have to fix it, and renewable energy.
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TheStick
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:cheesy:
The problem I have is you do not see those questions being asked, what you see are the governments proposed “solutions” without even knowing the answers.
And the solutions are always the same. Mandates, fees, taxes, laws and regulation. More government power and less individual freedom. This seems to be Washington’s “answer” to everything.
BlackRockBurner
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A few wikis:
Global Scientific Opinion :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
Follow the money and then there's this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial
Global Scientific Opinion :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
Follow the money and then there's this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial
Jkzinger
Caught the Bug
Keep on believing the fools. Good thing you live in the whacked out Bay Area.
BlackRockBurner
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Why are you so angry? Is it the drought?