ORE Suspension pictures
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hinrichs
Caught the Bug
Well the bolt on coilover kit mounts nothing like DTD does, Evo used to have a weld in tower but no longer unless maybe its still a in house option or something. Another option would be you could get the DTD brackets, and add in the bypass shocks at a later time if you are going to have EVO do all the work anyway. Honestly if you have the funds and are local to them, I would just trust what they offer and go with that. They would know best what you would need but it seems like you want a suspension that isnt for what you are planning to do.
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RSQCON
Member
They are not close to me and while their hourly shop rate seems a little high everyone I've talked to both on and off the forum raves about their customer service so I'd have no problem driving my Jeep out to them.
Well it looks like their rear Evo lever is no longer in play. I really liked the idea of this kit as they are known to provide more clearance and travel but unfortunately it's appears that it won't be compatible with my rear Savvy bumper that replaces the factory rear crossmember. At this point unless the front DTD provides significantly more travel than the bolt on kit the decision might be made for me.
Well it looks like their rear Evo lever is no longer in play. I really liked the idea of this kit as they are known to provide more clearance and travel but unfortunately it's appears that it won't be compatible with my rear Savvy bumper that replaces the factory rear crossmember. At this point unless the front DTD provides significantly more travel than the bolt on kit the decision might be made for me.
jesse3638
Hooked
Honestly that seems like a no brainer. Ditch the bumper and get the rear DTD EVO lever to match the front DTD if that what you plan on going with. I'd choose function over form and would rather have suspension over a bumper. No reason to have your Jeep looking like a tai lady boy.
:cheesy: :cheesy: Now that is some funny shit right there!! :clap2:The whole chop off the rear cross member, a structural boxed in part of the frame designed to be towed off of and replace it with a useless c-channel steel bumper is just silly to me. This goes for the ones that EVO, Poison Spyder, Crawler Concepts and the like all make. Like you, I'd rather have FUNCTION over useless looks any day of the week. But hey, I'm just a mall crawler so what would I know.
RSQCON
Member
I would rather have function or form and that is a consideration. One of the main concepts I am going for with this Jeep is a 'clean' looking build and while the word may hold a different meaning to others the Evo rear facia with D rings is not for my Jeep. The Savvy crossmember is more than just a C channel and they have provisions to remount the factory hitch which I plan on doing AND most important it will be capable of towing unlike 99% of the other bumper options on the market. Either way I am not committed and will weigh my options.
Eddie we all know your experience but comments like these do nothing to further your cause. I have nothing against you and I appreciate the service you provide...I'll leave it at that.
:cheesy: Yeah, I've read the description on their website too. The Savvy rear bumper REQUIRES you to cut off a boxed in, STRUCTURAL cross member from your Jeep's frame and have you replace it with their cross member that BOLTS in to your frame rails. It is funny how they acknowledge it'll help prevent frame distortion but make ZERO reference to towing capacity. I wonder why that is. :hmm:
Even if you welded it in, I still wouldn't trust it to tow from but then, that's just me.
LOL!! If you knew me as well as you say, you'd know the above is something I always say and not necessarily intended to get under your skin. In spite of what you seem to think, I am trying to help here.
JAGS
Hooked
Without input, what will "pictures of those kits" actually provide you to help with your decision???
From what I see you post, go with 4" enforcer and the king 2.0 shock. Or even a rancho shock. The king 2.5 is more made for speed and the reservoir with it for better driving manners at higher speeds to absorb whoops.
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aermotor
Member
Do you have gear envy and just like to have the best things like the coilovers, or do you think standard coils won't be enough?
Because the Enforcer kit with good shocks is a very, very comfortable and capable kit for a fraction of the cost of coilovers. My friend has the coilovers, and while they might make my pants grow just from looking at them, I am very content with my Enforcer w/ King 2.5s. I know it may seem boring to have a standard coil setup with shocks, but the ride and capability is pretty awesome, and very budget friendly.
If you get buyers remorse or regret often, then you might want to spend more and get the coilovers as it will probably make you feel better about it. You can't go wrong anywhere.
Because the Enforcer kit with good shocks is a very, very comfortable and capable kit for a fraction of the cost of coilovers. My friend has the coilovers, and while they might make my pants grow just from looking at them, I am very content with my Enforcer w/ King 2.5s. I know it may seem boring to have a standard coil setup with shocks, but the ride and capability is pretty awesome, and very budget friendly.
If you get buyers remorse or regret often, then you might want to spend more and get the coilovers as it will probably make you feel better about it. You can't go wrong anywhere.
notnalc68
That dude from Mississippi
aermotor
Member
RSQCON
Member
Pretty sure I answered that but to iterate the ORE site only shows parts layout it does not show detailed install pictures. I'm not the type of person to just buy something without being fully informed. Pictures would easily answer all my questions instead of reading what others think I should go with. I am happy to listen to opinions but that's what I was soliciting in this thread I was simply asking for detailed picture.
That's a rhetorical question. I mean a PR80, XD60, Gen Right Elite suspension, Motech LS conversion, etc. Who wouldn't right? But this has nothing to do with that I just want the kit that I think will serve me best whatever I decide on. I have spoken with a few members here about their Enforcer kits and I have no doubt it is a good quality kit.
jeeper52
LOSER
I can offer a bit of insight being that I have the dtd and my brother has the genright elite. Both are great kits and great companies. As far as travel I honestly think both are very close mine might have a bit more. Mine also has rear steer my brothers with the triangulated 4 link has no rear steer at all. His also feels more comfortable on the road as mine has more of a rough ride. With the dtd you can run any axle, with the genright you have to run curries. At the end of the day in my honest opinion both are over kill for Moab and if I had it over to do again I would go with the plush ride coils,37's and saved a ton of money. Not saying I'm not happy with the dtd because I am it has a unbelievable amount of flex/wheel travel but it's a ton of money and looking back I could have gotten away with less for less money. If you are looking at the genright and evo dtd might as well take a look at the Dixie offroad kit. Coilovers/bypasses front and rear with the rear frenched into the frame like genright. Pretty cool setup no idea on cost.
RSQCON
Member
Jeeper thanks for the insight on those 2. I know on the Gen Right sight it says they don't offer support for users not using Currie axles but I spoke with them and they have done a number of Dynatrac installs with their suspension. It's no different than Evo partnering with Dynatrac really.
I think when you have the top of the line product it's easier to say you could have done without but when you're on the other end of the spectrum you always want more. I'm trying to find that happy medium which is why I'm looking at bolt on coilover up front and the Evo lever rear without bypass shocks. That would give me more travel out back and keep everything tucked up out of the way.
I think when you have the top of the line product it's easier to say you could have done without but when you're on the other end of the spectrum you always want more. I'm trying to find that happy medium which is why I'm looking at bolt on coilover up front and the Evo lever rear without bypass shocks. That would give me more travel out back and keep everything tucked up out of the way.
JAGS
Hooked
Now this thread is getting dumb. Why not just do a google image search rather than come here and ask for "just pictures." No offense, but pictures alone won't tell you shit about lift quality.
If that were the case, go get some metal cloak shit or some rock krawler bright yellow shit as they "look" bad ass in "pics."
If you want shiny king blue, than get shiny king blue. If you like red, get rancho. If you like yellow, go RK. Trying to compare based on pictures for a DTD vs coil over vs enforvcer vs gen right is stupid.
If that were the case, go get some metal cloak shit or some rock krawler bright yellow shit as they "look" bad ass in "pics."
If you want shiny king blue, than get shiny king blue. If you like red, get rancho. If you like yellow, go RK. Trying to compare based on pictures for a DTD vs coil over vs enforvcer vs gen right is stupid.
tgoss
New member
I was in between evo DTD and genrights elite system but I refuse to run Anything but dynatrac axles and certainly will never run curries. Talking with Andrew at genright who is an extremely helpful individual he says it absolutely can be done but there's an extensive amount of extra Fab on top of a system that is generously priced to begin with.
I think reading through your thread it's clear you want the absolute best and I fear if you settle for something other than the ultimate you (not unlike myself) are going to kick yourself for not getting what you ultimately want and someday, usually sooner than later you're going to sell you shit for pennies on the dollar and get what you wanted from day one.
Just go DTD. Be done with it. [emoji1360]
OverlanderJK
Resident Smartass
Doing the lever in the rear and bolt ins up front is dumb. Do it (dtd) or don't do it.
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RSQCON
Member
I'm not asking about the quality of anyone's product. I know what good quality is and the only 2 companies I've referenced are both top notch. Thanks for your help
Tgoss I certainly don't want to sell anything for pennies on the dollar but pretty sure the full DTD isn't in the books for me. Never say never!
What's so dumb about getting more travel in the rear and tucking everything up?
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JAGS
Hooked
Spend 20K on something when 5k will do more than is needed. I get your advice, but for the OP that 's stupid reasoning.
This sounds a lot like a guy in Texas. He ended up selling his rig. You DONT need a DTD to do Moab.
tgoss
New member
No you absolutely don't. I'm not disagreeing with you there.
Plush ride coils, rancho's, etc and most jk's can do just about anything.
These things are ridiculously capable.