rubicrawl
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Lmao you mean the affordable care act this is to funny
Roof Rack + Snorkel = Overland?
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Lmao you mean the affordable care act this is to funny
NTXRUBICON
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There really is no difference in the setups of the jeep I would love to do all the stuff the crawler guy put on their rigs
It is just a preference in how you want to wheel and setup up the accessories on the ride.
I just enjoy doing trail rides instead of rock crawling which might be because I still owe a shit load of money on this damn thing!
I have massive respect for every ride big or small because not all of us are able to do full blown awesome rigs but we enjoy the jeep'n hobby all together and that's why we are gathering here on this forum for the wayalife!
It is just a preference in how you want to wheel and setup up the accessories on the ride.
I just enjoy doing trail rides instead of rock crawling which might be because I still owe a shit load of money on this damn thing!
I have massive respect for every ride big or small because not all of us are able to do full blown awesome rigs but we enjoy the jeep'n hobby all together and that's why we are gathering here on this forum for the wayalife!
Exactly! There really is no difference and that's the point.
What kind of parts constitutes "crawler" stuff?
Maybe it's just me but, a Jeep is a Jeep regardless of how you or anyone prefers to use, build up and or accessorize it.
Nothing wrong with what kind of trails you choose to take your Jeep on - it's all off roading to me.
As do I - big or small, built up or stock, they're all Jeeps to me. Period.
NTXRUBICON
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Well said!
OverlanderJK
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Besides the center of gravity. :cheesy:
northjeeper
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I always saw overlanding as vehicle based travel. I always thought it was to build up the jeep to live out of it for extended periods of time. It seems they want a capable vehicle but not one built to run extreme trails on a regular basis.
Instead of running 37" or 40" tires they run a 35 or less. For fuel economies sake would seem like to be the most logical answer. All terrains seem to be preffered to a mud tire again for the sake of fuel economy.
Smaller lifts seem to be preferred. Cost would be one reason and you're not building the rig to run difficult trails. Also when putting gear on top you'd want to keep your center of gravity lower.
To me it seems overland rigs focus more on the comfort of living out of them for extended periods of time. So they put a rooftop tent on for the added comfort and ease of setup. Kitchen setups get more focus. Fridge/freezer/stove setup built into the back of the jeep for ease of use. Water tanks seem to be a common feature. Hot water/shower setups.
Auxiliary fuel tanks as well maybe.
An overland rig to me is more like an off road rv. Built up to give a little more comfort when out in wilderness. Overlanders want a fairly capable rig but seem to focus on the living out of the rig for periods of time as opposed to a build focused on improving the capabilities of the jeep.
Instead of running 37" or 40" tires they run a 35 or less. For fuel economies sake would seem like to be the most logical answer. All terrains seem to be preffered to a mud tire again for the sake of fuel economy.
Smaller lifts seem to be preferred. Cost would be one reason and you're not building the rig to run difficult trails. Also when putting gear on top you'd want to keep your center of gravity lower.
To me it seems overland rigs focus more on the comfort of living out of them for extended periods of time. So they put a rooftop tent on for the added comfort and ease of setup. Kitchen setups get more focus. Fridge/freezer/stove setup built into the back of the jeep for ease of use. Water tanks seem to be a common feature. Hot water/shower setups.
Auxiliary fuel tanks as well maybe.
An overland rig to me is more like an off road rv. Built up to give a little more comfort when out in wilderness. Overlanders want a fairly capable rig but seem to focus on the living out of the rig for periods of time as opposed to a build focused on improving the capabilities of the jeep.
Okay, I do that all the time.
So, "overland" is just another term for "moderately built Jeep"?
So, overlanders love to spend BIG BUCKS on wind dragging roof top tents, super heavy Snowpeak kitchens and tons of camping gear that all suck up gas but are worried about the 4-5 MPG's they might loose by running MT's or slightly bigger tires. Got it. Honestly, if they're worried about MPG, there are a lot of other vehicles that will do a better job of getting you to a KOA Kampground, with more camping gear and with better MPG's.
Ummm, let me see, you're saying that adding a lot of unsprung weight by installing big heavy axles and tires will adversely effect your center of gravity but a super heavy roof top tent won't?
So in other words, an "overlander" is just someone who likes to go camping in a moderately built Jeep?
For what? This is America and believe me, it's really hard to run out of gas here unless you're terrible at planning.
OverlanderJK
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I've done it. :cheesy:
But if I didn't get lost 6-7 times I probably wouldn't have run out. :thumb:
Like I said, unless you're terrible at planning, it's really hard to run out of gas
jeepsterchris
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You'll be fine...as long as you aren't checking your hair on the trail...:cheesy:
northjeeper
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Running bigger tires in conjunction with heavy gear (wind dragging rooftop tents ect) will decrease your mpg more then just running one or the other.
You could run both but From a cost perspective you'd save money on fuel with smaller tires. Over time that savings would add up.
As far as the lift goes. Adding a heavy roof load will increase your center of gravity. No argument there. Heavy roof load plus higher lift would increase your center of gravity even more. Im guess in that's why you'd want a smaller lift. You'd need something to handle the heavier load but don't want to increase the center of gravity too much.
For the record I don't think a rig built for overlanding or camping out of the jeep is more capable then a rig like moby. Which I think was the original point of this debate.
They're building a rig to camp out of off the beaten path. That's how I see overlanding.
Overlanding?
When I hear the term Overlanding I can only think of the Turtle Expedition; and vehicles like this...
http://turtleexpedition.com/vehicles/turtle-v/
To me if you're calling yourself an overlander, or have an expedition rig this is what I see you doing. Just my opinion.
When I hear the term Overlanding I can only think of the Turtle Expedition; and vehicles like this...
http://turtleexpedition.com/vehicles/turtle-v/
To me if you're calling yourself an overlander, or have an expedition rig this is what I see you doing. Just my opinion.
So, overlanders only like to spend money on expensive camping gear, gadgets and designer cloths but cheap out when it comes to gas. Or, is it that they need to cheap out on gas so that they can afford to get the aforementioned? :idontknow:
You're right, you are just guessing. Fact of the matter is, my Jeeps typically sit LOWER than most moderately built Jeeps or, what you would call, "overlanders". Likewise, I carry all that I need and would be willing to bet that my Jeeps are still more stable too.
You would think wrong, that was not the point of this debate. If anything, it's your misunderstanding of things that IS the point.
And so is a Jeep like Moby and, I would argue that it has been to more remote places and camping off the beaten path than most self-professed overlanders could ever hope to in their lifetime.
OverlanderJK
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A lot of you guys don't understand that we are talking about here in AMERICA or MERICA for those that call it that.
In other country's things are different. But nobody cares.
In other country's things are different. But nobody cares.
JKBANDIT55
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After a while you start to realize that its a term thats turned into a look. A stock JK can be an overlander. But to some when you say overland built rig they think AEV/ARB/ and a rooftop tent.
Yes some jeeps are purposly built for taking extended wheeling trips but to say a "Rock Crawler" built rig cant is incorrect because it can. Like I said. Its just a term for a look
Yes some jeeps are purposly built for taking extended wheeling trips but to say a "Rock Crawler" built rig cant is incorrect because it can. Like I said. Its just a term for a look
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jeepsterchris
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JKBANDIT55
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I overland to work every day. Yes I drive my jeep Over Land thats paved and has lanes
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northjeeper
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Who wouldn't want to save money on fuel. The best reason being it gives you more financial resources to travel for a longer duration and to more places. I've always thought of overlanding as extended periods of travels. Months or weeks at a time and hence why you'd want a rig more comfortable to live out of. Is it really different than a long camping trip? no.
The US is a big place. I don't see any reason you can't take extensive trips right here. It's possible to do most of that traveling in the dirt as well.
So what's the difference between an overland rig and a well built up capable rig? Not much. A rig like yours can go anywhere an overland build can. Not saying otherwise. The overland rig can't go everywhere a jeep like yours can. The difference is they're not building a jeep to do both. They focus on living out of the vehicle in remote places as well as the not so remote stops in between. Would you want it offroad capable? Yes. So capable it can run the most difficult trails? no. Its not a huge difference. The comfort of living out the the vehicle for extended periods of time is the real difference.