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Cjacks95
12-11-2013, 07:27 PM
Okay so as i sit now 3.5 inch RC series 2 on my 2012 2dr jk.
59939

No complaints except sagged pretty quick. I do have a lot of armor and I'm throwing a winch on and a rear bumper soon too.
So I'm going to get a little bigger lift that doesn't sag as much and for a better offroad ride.
I'm caught between Rockkrawler 3.5 inch or evo plush coils or maybe even some teraflex coils.
I'm going to be on 37s soon but I don't want to be too tall. I just wanted to know which would be a great size for 37s (not to much fender room or not to little) which coils wouldn't sag as much and which have a better ride.

Thanks!
Colby

JKBANDIT55
12-11-2013, 07:43 PM
Okay so as i sit now 3.5 inch RC series 2 on my 2012 2dr jk.
59939

No complaints except sagged pretty quick. I do have a lot of armor and I'm throwing a winch on and a rear bumper soon too.
So I'm going to get a little bigger lift that doesn't sag as much and for a better offroad ride.
I'm caught between Rockkrawler 3.5 inch or evo plush coils or maybe even some teraflex coils.
I'm going to be on 37s soon but I don't want to be too tall. I just wanted to know which would be a great size for 37s (not to much fender room or not to little) which coils wouldn't sag as much and which have a better ride.

Thanks!
Colby

Yup Im on my 2nd set of RC coils myself. First ones went from 2.5" down to 1" within 2 months RC sent some replacements. These 2nd ones I had put on about 2 months before EJS, after my drive back from EJS I noticed they are sagging again. added 1" spacers and called it good for now. It seems like these coils start to sag after you really work them on the trails.

Back when I got the lift it was all I could afford at the time.

Currently have a Zone Offroad 4" to install and test out the suspension for them. Gonna run this suspension for a while and see how it does.

But If i were to purchase right now it would have to be an RK 3.5, or EVO Plush. I have seen too many Teraflex kits sag below the lifts claim height after they throw on some armor and winch. But at the same time I have buddies that love them. Maybe teraflex has fixed the issue?

Cjacks95
12-11-2013, 07:48 PM
Yup Im on my 2nd set of RC coils myself. First ones went from 2.5" down to 1" within 2 months RC sent some replacements. These 2nd ones I had put on about 2 months before EJS, after my drive back from EJS I noticed they are sagging again. added 1" spacers and called it good for now. It seems like these coils start to sag after you really work them on the trails.

Back when I got the lift it was all I could afford at the time.

Currently have a Zone Offroad 4" to install and test out the suspension for them. Gonna run this suspension for a while and see how it does.

But If i were to purchase right now it would have to be an RK 3.5, or EVO Plush. I have seen too many Teraflex kits sag below the lifts claim height after they throw on some armor and winches.

Thanks man! Yeah I wasn't to sure about the teraflex coils either haha

Tcdawg
12-11-2013, 08:00 PM
My RC coils sagged as yours are doing.

Swapped for RK 3.5 coils, and all the other RK suspension components. I have been very happy with the RK stuff.

Cjacks95
12-11-2013, 08:05 PM
My RC coils sagged as yours are doing.

Swapped for RK 3.5 coils, and all the other RK suspension components. I have been very happy with the RK stuff.

That's what I'm hearing so I think I might so 3.5 rk if evo made a 3.5 id probably do that I know they're for a 4 dr and all but still would just prefer a 3.5 haha thanks for the fast responses you guys!

cozdude
12-11-2013, 08:14 PM
That's what I'm hearing so I think I might so 3.5 rk if evo made a 3.5 id probably do that I know they're for a 4 dr and all but still would just prefer a 3.5 haha thanks for the fast responses you guys!

take a look at hinrich's jeep. he has the 3" plush rides with big ass 37's and beadlocks and armor. he is sitting at about 3.5" on his 2 door with all of it.

bl17z90
12-11-2013, 08:55 PM
RC coils are known for sagging rather quickyl. Even just with highway miles.

Cjacks95
12-12-2013, 03:02 AM
take a look at hinrich's jeep. he has the 3" plush rides with big ass 37's and beadlocks and armor. he is sitting at about 3.5" on his 2 door with all of it.

That's the picture I've been basing plush coils on! Haha just wanted to see some opinions on RKs vs PLUSH COILS

JKRay
12-12-2013, 06:14 AM
I would get the EVO plush coils. I have the 4 inch and their awesome both on and off road. If anything add some spring spacers to bring it up to 3.5 inches.


Ray ⛺

10frank9
12-12-2013, 06:27 AM
I would get the EVO plush coils. I have the 4 inch and their awesome both on and off road. If anything add some spring spacers to bring it up to 3.5 inches.


Ray ⛺

I agree with Ray-Ray. You will be fine with 3" plush rides and 37's but if you need it you could always add a spacer.

Cjacks95
12-12-2013, 10:32 AM
I would get the EVO plush coils. I have the 4 inch and their awesome both on and off road. If anything add some spring spacers to bring it up to 3.5 inches.


Ray ⛺

Thanks! Do they sag at all tho?

Cjacks95
12-12-2013, 10:33 AM
I agree with Ray-Ray. You will be fine with 3" plush rides and 37's but if you need it you could always add a spacer.

Yeah a spacer wouldn't be bad and they're cheap!

just-lift-it
12-12-2013, 02:13 PM
Im also in the same boat 2012 4 door bought 3.5" stage 2 kit from RC it sagged a ton added 1" spacers while still saving up now have 4" evo plush on order with some other goodies to throw out all the RC crap

in my opinion RC is perfect for someone who wants to increase their vehicles hieght for looks for a mall crawler at a good price. it is not designed to be beat on offroad in anyway because they always fail but for $500 with everything you get how can you really complain that it started to fail most other companies charge $500 for 2 shocks haha

Cjacks95
12-12-2013, 04:35 PM
Im also in the same boat 2012 4 door bought 3.5" stage 2 kit from RC it sagged a ton added 1" spacers while still saving up now have 4" evo plush on order with some other goodies to throw out all the RC crap

in my opinion RC is perfect for someone who wants to increase their vehicles hieght for looks for a mall crawler at a good price. it is not designed to be beat on offroad in anyway because they always fail but for $500 with everything you get how can you really complain that it started to fail most other companies charge $500 for 2 shocks haha

That's so true hahaha I got a whole lift for 500$ now I'm looking at 400$ for just coils???? And I mean it wasn't too bad it's was just sorta, kinda... Okay yeah it was bad hahaha so you like the plush coils?

just-lift-it
12-12-2013, 08:31 PM
Ill tell you what i think if they ever come in its crazy im from Ontario up in canada and i rear guys on these forums waiting a while to get Evo stuff in the states well we wait even longer as well as Clayton i ordered a read Clayton trac bar 6 weeks ago!! like wtf pisses me off like no other but when i do recieve my stuff from northridge i will tell you the difference i feel.

I called so many places RK, tera, evo, MK, rubicon express, and so on to say listen offroad my RC kits work great it feels smooth soaks up the lumps and bumps flexs well but on the street feels like a wagon should i go with new shock or coils or both.

at the end of the day every person said its coils for the small quick jabbing bumps your shock only moves maybe an inch it isnt barely reacting at that time its all coils really.. when almost every company said this i pulled the trigger on coils alone for now maybe upgrade the RC shocks later!!

Then the debate came to dual rate progressive rate or linear rate coils, this went on for weeks with multiple companies and reading every thread out there, decided on linear rate plush ride evo coils for many reasons :)

So if i see them before the new year in a few weeks ill get back to yeah! i couldnt find anyone who has driven both to compare either so i know how you feel

JayKay
12-12-2013, 09:04 PM
Anyone know if I upgrade from 3.5" RC coils to 4" EVO coils, do I need to retain the rear coil angle plates that come with the RC lift? Will upgrading to the 4" EVO coils affect the front caster a whole lot since I have the aftermarket fixed front lower control arms that came with the RC lift?

1BAMFR
12-12-2013, 09:25 PM
I put a 1" spacer in my rears and it sits level with all the armor and huge ass spare.

metaldemon
12-12-2013, 11:51 PM
My friend had 4.5" BDS long arm on his 08 JKU. They just replaced the springs under warranty, and he got back almost 2". Pretty sad for only four years.

just-lift-it
12-13-2013, 12:29 PM
Anyone know if I upgrade from 3.5" RC coils to 4" EVO coils, do I need to retain the rear coil angle plates that come with the RC lift? Will upgrading to the 4" EVO coils affect the front caster a whole lot since I have the aftermarket fixed front lower control arms that came with the RC lift?

Keep the wedges, and yes caster will be effected if your springs have sagged like everyone elses my 3.5" with an added 1" spacer is currently sitting as high as my buddys brand new 2.5" lift... pretty pathedic after 1 year!

JayKay
12-13-2013, 12:49 PM
Keep the wedges, and yes caster will be effected if your springs have sagged like everyone elses my 3.5" with an added 1" spacer is currently sitting as high as my buddys brand new 2.5" lift... pretty pathedic after 1 year!

I don't think mine is sagging, but of course I didn't measure it right after installation either. I more or less wanna go with the plush rides for the ride quality.

just-lift-it
12-13-2013, 01:45 PM
I don't think mine is sagging, but of course I didn't measure it right after installation either. I more or less wanna go with the plush rides for the ride quality.

Do you wheel it hard? hitting the bump stops a lot? thats what killed mine.. it was great until i disconected and hit trails every weekend haha

JayKay
12-13-2013, 02:01 PM
Do you wheel it hard? hitting the bump stops a lot? thats what killed mine.. it was great until i disconected and hit trails every weekend haha

Honestly, not at all, there aren't any parks close by here in east central MO. The most I do are some forestry service roads and some light trails on private property. My Jeep is 90% highway. One day when it's paid off and not a DD, I'll beat on it a little harder.

just-lift-it
12-13-2013, 04:00 PM
then im sure your RC kit will last you years without troubles! i feel thats really what there designed for people who do camping and drive around on roads and want more height... but hey we all have our opinions for $500 you cant go wrong if it does what you intend to use it for ;)

JayKay
12-13-2013, 05:39 PM
then im sure your RC kit will last you years without troubles! i feel thats really what there designed for people who do camping and drive around on roads and want more height... but hey we all have our opinions for $500 you cant go wrong if it does what you intend to use it for ;)

That was my reason for going with RC, plus the shop I work at has an account with them so we get all their products at discounted prices. I plan on upgrading eventually, but right now I'm happy with what I have. Eventually it'll be a 44 front end and a more premium suspension system. I plan on having the jeep for a long time, so I'll have time to make it the way I want it. :)

Veetz
12-13-2013, 06:01 PM
Okay so as i sit now 3.5 inch RC series 2 on my 2012 2dr jk.
59939

No complaints except sagged pretty quick. I do have a lot of armor and I'm throwing a winch on and a rear bumper soon too.
So I'm going to get a little bigger lift that doesn't sag as much and for a better offroad ride.
I'm caught between Rockkrawler 3.5 inch or evo plush coils or maybe even some teraflex coils.
I'm going to be on 37s soon but I don't want to be too tall. I just wanted to know which would be a great size for 37s (not to much fender room or not to little) which coils wouldn't sag as much and which have a better ride.

Thanks!
Colby

Yo I got some info for you about that . Had a 3 inch bds, went to a 4.5 after the steel was added it started to lean to the passenger side about an inch, had to remove those springs and installed a 5 inch and I'm sitting on 37's and it's not all that tall, there is a lot on the internet referring to the jk lean it just happens, do some homework before you buy anything if you need anymore info let me know.....my problem is solved though, just remember steering geometry after you go so high at some point it comes into play


Merry Christmas

Cjacks95
12-13-2013, 06:08 PM
Yo I got some info for you about that . Had a 3 inch bds, went to a 4.5 after the steel was added it started to lean to the passenger side about an inch, had to remove those springs and installed a 5 inch and I'm sitting on 37's and it's not all that tall, there is a lot on the internet referring to the jk lean it just happens, do some homework before you buy anything if you need anymore info let me know.....my problem is solved though, just remember steering geometry after you go so high at some point it comes into play


Merry Christmas

But you're a 4dr too. A little longer. I'm gonna go with plush coils but the 4" or 3" not sure yet. I kinda wanna do the 4 but I don't want to be too tall. The 3 looks good but I don't know if it's tall enough you know? What do you think?

Veetz
12-14-2013, 11:53 AM
But you're a 4dr too. A little longer. I'm gonna go with plush coils but the 4" or 3" not sure yet. I kinda wanna do the 4 but I don't want to be too tall. The 3 looks good but I don't know if it's tall enough you know? What do you think?

C...if your gonna run 37's I suggest you get the 4 it will give more room in the wheel well and beneath the fenders, your gonna need clearance and remember once you add bumpers,skids and so forth those springs are settle down , go with the 4 it will eventually settle and make sure your shocks are long enough, and good luck I have been through 3 lifts a 3...4.5...and now a 5 and it isn't to high and the 37's have plenty of room, give them room bro or they will take your fender with them...and then lots of people say 5:13 gears , ...that's great for the trails but the highway will eat the rear up, find a happy medium


Merry Christmas

jknit
12-14-2013, 02:05 PM
Okay so as i sit now 3.5 inch RC series 2 on my 2012 2dr jk.
59939

No complaints except sagged pretty quick. I do have a lot of armor and I'm throwing a winch on and a rear bumper soon too.
So I'm going to get a little bigger lift that doesn't sag as much and for a better offroad ride.
I'm caught between Rockkrawler 3.5 inch or evo plush coils or maybe even some teraflex coils.
I'm going to be on 37s soon but I don't want to be too tall. I just wanted to know which would be a great size for 37s (not to much fender room or not to little) which coils wouldn't sag as much and which have a better ride.

Thanks!
Colby

My 4" super lift looks more like 2 inches now, working on replacing my whole life, I've heard evo springs don't sag but who knows

Bacon
12-14-2013, 03:38 PM
My 4" super lift looks more like 2 inches now, working on replacing my whole life, I've heard evo springs don't sag but who knows

Replacing your whole life because your springs are sagging? Seems a little extreme to me. (Don't ya just love auto correct?)

jknit
12-14-2013, 03:56 PM
Replacing your whole life because your springs are sagging? Seems a little extreme to me. (Don't ya just love auto correct?)

haha yep, damn Iphone. But I am replacing my entire lift because I hate the whole thing, part of that is the fact that the springs are sagging so much, that and the fact that about every piece of the life it rusted including the springs which just doesnt seem right to me

Cjacks95
12-14-2013, 09:07 PM
C...if your gonna run 37's I suggest you get the 4 it will give more room in the wheel well and beneath the fenders, your gonna need clearance and remember once you add bumpers,skids and so forth those springs are settle down , go with the 4 it will eventually settle and make sure your shocks are long enough, and good luck I have been through 3 lifts a 3...4.5...and now a 5 and it isn't to high and the 37's have plenty of room, give them room bro or they will take your fender with them...and then lots of people say 5:13 gears , ...that's great for the trails but the highway will eat the rear up, find a happy medium


Merry Christmas

Saw this guy getting ha at costco when I was In my work truck yesterday 60216

Made me want the 4" so that's what I'm going for haha now gotta pick a long arm kit any suggestions??

jknit
12-14-2013, 09:37 PM
Saw this guy getting ha at costco when I was In my work truck yesterday 60216

Made me want the 4" so that's what I'm going for haha now gotta pick a long arm kit any suggestions??

almost everyone I have talked to has said stay away from the teraflax as in the last year or so there have been a lot of bushing issues, I have no teraflex parts on my jeep but am under the impression that as they have been getting bigger their quality has been decreasing a bit. Evo is made in the USA and I havent even read 1 bad review, other than a part or two missing from their kits from time to time, so check everything when it comes before you rip your jeep apart

Cjacks95
12-14-2013, 09:42 PM
almost everyone I have talked to has said stay away from the teraflax as in the last year or so there have been a lot of bushing issues, I have no teraflex parts on my jeep but am under the impression that as they have been getting bigger their quality has been decreasing a bit. Evo is made in the USA and I havent even read 1 bad review, other than a part or two missing from their kits from time to time, so check everything when it comes before you rip your jeep apart

Evos a Little pricey tho haha

rtguy1
12-14-2013, 10:33 PM
Evos a Little pricey tho haha

You get what you pay for. :beer:

jknit
12-15-2013, 04:03 PM
Evos a Little pricey tho haha

I payed like 2 grand installed for my lift 3 years ago, now im saving to buy an eve long arm 4 inch lift, its even more expensive if you have to pay for it because you didnt do it right the first time, 2 grand out the window

Veetz
12-24-2013, 02:07 AM
Evos a Little pricey tho haha

Cj empty your message bin


Merry Christmas

Cjacks95
12-24-2013, 06:42 AM
Cj empty your message bin


Merry Christmas

Done..!!.!

JeepinLife
12-24-2013, 02:26 PM
Okay so as i sit now 3.5 inch RC series 2 on my 2012 2dr jk.
59939

No complaints except sagged pretty quick. I do have a lot of armor and I'm throwing a winch on and a rear bumper soon too.
So I'm going to get a little bigger lift that doesn't sag as much and for a better offroad ride.
I'm caught between Rockkrawler 3.5 inch or evo plush coils or maybe even some teraflex coils.
I'm going to be on 37s soon but I don't want to be too tall. I just wanted to know which would be a great size for 37s (not to much fender room or not to little) which coils wouldn't sag as much and which have a better ride.

Thanks!
Colby

I have the RK 3.5 Not one complaint.

j3ph3ry_j33p
12-25-2013, 02:39 PM
for what it's worth, you're gonna get what you pay for. The EVO plush rides, ICON Vehicle Dynamics and ( my personal choice) the Synergy progressive rate coils all are cold forged so that they grant the listed amount of height that you're seeking WITH heavily laden armor and bumpers and winches THEN you have the lift amount. I have to admit, they will give a little over advertised lift until you add the heavy stuff. Worth every penny, you will not be dealing with this problem with these manufacturers. Hope this helps.