Caster help please…..again !

steve_r2

steve_r2

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Ok…..had an issue with driveline vibrations after doing gear swap to 4.88's
Ended up changing front and rear drive shafts, engine and transmission mounts.
Vibrations were a lot less but still there. Had alignment done and found I was way off R to L.
Then decided to get rid of my AEV drop correction brackets and get adjustable front lower control arms (Teraflex).
Shop has now aligned caster to 4.4* both sides……however on driving still get low grade vibration from 65 mph onwards….
So do I try and bring the caster back closer to 4.2* to help eliminate this vibration completely ? or increase it ?
All bearings, bushings, torque etc have been checked and are ok….post gear change inspection is fine as well.
I have read Eddies write up on caster adjustment…. and though seems straight forward just not sure I am confident of getting right as yet (total noob at this !!)

2009 JKU Auto, AEV 2.5 " suspension, Teraflex front lower adjustable control arms, 33's measuring 31.5"(E rated), winch and Warn bumper

Cheers
Steve
 
wayoflife

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Have you actually tried removing your front drive shaft and drive around without it to verify that it is in fact the cause of your vibrations? I'm pretty sure I had recommended this before and doing so will allow you to solve problems without having to throw more money at your Jeep.
 
steve_r2

steve_r2

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wayoflife said:
Have you actually tried removing your front drive shaft and drive around without it to verify that it is in fact the cause of your vibrations? I'm pretty sure I had recommended this before and doing so will allow you to solve problems without having to throw more money at your Jeep.
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Hi Eddie.....sorry I did do as you recommended and drive shaft was removed ...vibration still there. Have now dialled my caster into 4.2 *.
It's now negligible.......probably being picky and looking for fault but things like this really bug me .
As I am learning all this as we go so please bare with me....
 
wayoflife

wayoflife

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steve_r2 said:
Hi Eddie.....sorry I did do as you recommended and drive shaft was removed ...vibration still there. Have now dialled my caster into 4.2 *.
It's now negligible.......probably being picky and looking for fault but things like this really bug me .
As I am learning all this as we go so please bare with me....
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If you removed your shaft and the vibrations were still there, adjusting your caster will make no difference.
 
cozdude

cozdude

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wayoflife said:
Is it possible that you're just feeling the lug thumping of your tire tread?
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this was my thought. i know at low speeds i can really feel the lugs of the mud grapplers. i worry for half a second then i remember how agressive my tread is lol
 
steve_r2

steve_r2

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wayoflife said:
Is it possible that you're just feeling the lug thumping of your tire tread?
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I suppose I could be.....and that was why I thought I might be being picky.
I'm not running what I consider to be an aggressive tread pattern (Cooper AT 3s) but it could be.
Really sorry to bug people about this. But here in a Dubai there are no decent workshops I have found with the knowledge you guys have so all my questions get directed here. At least I know I will get a honest answer rather than being told what I want to hear and finding out it's all shite still.....ask me how I know !
 
Moochie

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You say you changed your driveshafts. With aftermarket shafts? Have you adjusted your rear pinion angle?
 
wayoflife

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Moochie said:
You say you changed your driveshafts. With aftermarket shafts? Have you adjusted your rear pinion angle?
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This right here ^^^

If you've installed new drivelines, have removed your front and still have vibrations, they could be coming from the rear shaft. IF you installed a double cardan u-joint style shaft, it is REQUIRED that you set your pinion angle. If you don't, you will have vibrations.
 
steve_r2

steve_r2

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Moochie said:
You say you changed your driveshafts. With aftermarket shafts? Have you adjusted your rear pinion angle?
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As I have only a 2.5 " lift I have new stock shafts as I understood it these would be ok on a lift this size and a 4 door auto( the others had been on since new ) . Pinion angles are all ok I have been assured by the shop that fitted.
 
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jeeeep

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another thought, did you check to make sure the driveshafts are installed with their balancing marks aligned?
 
steve_r2

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jeeeep said:
another thought, did you check to make sure the driveshafts are installed with their balancing marks aligned?
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Ahhh….I didn't know about this :grayno:. Can you tell me more then ill go check.

@Moochie…..yes I got my tires balanced about 4 days ago. They were done on a RoadForce :thumb:
 
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steve_r2

steve_r2

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Ok…..so I'm hoping that I may have tracked it down.
So I have new OEM shafts……on jeeeeeps advise I just have crawled underneath to have a look to see if I can find any marks.
Now on either end there is fluorescent paint spots…… however when checking the spot at axle end was at the 6 o'clock point and the TC end was at 4 o'clock is this the possible cause ? and my shaft is not in phase ?
Please say its so *prays*
 
jeeeep

jeeeep

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they should be inline with each other - just double checked my rear DS (still stock) and marks are aligned
 
steve_r2

steve_r2

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jeeeep said:
they should be inline with each other - just double checked my rear DS (still stock) and marks are aligned
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Jeeeep.......if this it......I'll fly over there and personally get you enough beer to sink a battleship and the mother of all hangovers !
 
steve_r2

steve_r2

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Can I disconnect the shaft at one end only to rotate to align the marks….or as I suspect remove completely ?
 
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Sc741

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If it is a factory shaft, there is nothing to put into phase. Phase only has to do with universal joints on both ends of the drive shaft being in phase.
 
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