Camber or bent?

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2trackin

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So I pulled into my driveway yesterday from work where I had my jk parked facing the road. It's usually parked in the garage. Anyhow put up to it. Admiring the boldness of the beast and it looks like a have slight camber to the wheels. Just enough to be noticeable and appearing to be even on both sides. I should have taken a picture. I recently welded inner c gussets and did so in a manner to reduce chances of any warpage. Honestly I haven't really stared at the front of the Jeep in an open area like that since it's been built. So I can't tell if it was always this way or not.
I'm in the process of trying to find a good alignment shop in my area that can do one with my beadlocks. My normal go to place cannot. Currently a have a little pull to the right. And if I can recall it's been this way since the lift. I don't do much driving on road as its primarily an offroad rig.
Specs as follows
2014 Rubicon 2 door
Stock axles
3.5" RK max travel lift
37" toyos on ATX slabs
Does the front axle naturally have a little camber and the larger tires just make it a little more apparent. Like I said it's hardly noticeable and maybe I'm just losing my mind all together. Lol
I'll try and snap a pic later on today when I get home.

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wayoflife

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I see you're running 37's - your axle is most likely bent. But, it could also be your unit bearings. If they are bad, they will cause a bit of camber too.
 
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I only have 4k miles on the Jeep. Been wheeling once before gussets. And it was in the snow. I really haven't done much wheeling at all. Winter here in Michigan has been pretty brutal this year.

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Moochie

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2trackin said:
I only have 4k miles on the Jeep. Been wheeling once before gussets. And it was in the snow. I really haven't done much wheeling at all. Winter here in Michigan has been pretty brutal this year.

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Not saying your C's are bent but, with 37's you can bend them just by driving on the highway.
 
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wayoflife said:
What he said ^^^. Running 37's without C's can bend them without going off road.
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Ugh. I'm not ready to upgrade yet. I had bought an Artec truss as well. But with such mixed reviews and the fact that the thing is like a Freakin jigsaw puzzle i opted out of using it. So it sits in the garage. I'm going to get my alignment done and see how it actually specs out.

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Moochie

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2trackin said:
Ugh. I'm not ready to upgrade yet. I had bought an Artec truss as well. But with such mixed reviews and the fact that the thing is like a Freakin jigsaw puzzle i opted out of using it. So it sits in the garage. I'm going to get my alignment done and see how it actually specs out.

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If they are bent you can get some offset ball joints to bring it back to spec. Then again, just live with it until you do an axle upgrade.
 
wayoflife

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Honestly, at this point and time, I would just run what you have until you can afford to get a ProRock 44. Having a slightly bent axle or a bit of camber on your wheels isn't the end of the world. Hell, I ran like that for over 65,000 miles until I got bad enough to cause a seal leak. At that point and time, I upgraded. :yup:
 
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wayoflife said:
Honestly, at this point and time, I would just run what you have until you can afford to get a ProRock 44. Having a slightly bent axle or a bit of camber on your wheels isn't the end of the world. Hell, I ran like that for over 65,000 miles until I got bad enough to cause a seal leak. At that point and time, I upgraded. :yup:
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Lol. Right on. I'm glad your the type of guy that understands that some people don't just have a few grand to throw at an axle. When I get home today I'm going to take a couple pics and get her in the air to do some inspecting.
Anyone have the factory alignment specs off hand?

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utiadam

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Now I'm getting a little worried. I have the Evo C gussets and lower control arm skids coming this week. I've only done 1 trail so far but it was stock height and tires which gave me a beating on the rocks. I hope the Cs aren't gonna be too late.
 
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utiadam said:
Now I'm getting a little worried. I have the Evo C gussets and lower control arm skids coming this week. I've only done 1 trail so far but it was stock height and tires which gave me a beating on the rocks. I hope the Cs aren't gonna be too late.
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As mentioned above, a SLIGHT bend is not THAT big of a deal but, gussets should be installed with any oversized tire asap. With my 2013 JKUR, I had the EVO gussets installed within a week of purchase prior to the 35's going on.
 
904Jeep

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If the OP really wanted to correct for the camber, couldn't he just get a set of adjustable or off set ball joints to correct for damage that has already been done to the C's? I know they are limited in the amount of correction you can gain.
 
wayoflife

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904Jeep said:
If the OP really wanted to correct for the camber, couldn't he just get a set of adjustable or off set ball joints to correct for damage that has already been done to the C's? I know they are limited in the amount of correction you can gain.
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Yup, that's what Moochie said back on post #8. But really, I don't even know if it's worth it.
 
optimus prime

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Drive your jeep forward 6 feet and check it again. When you back your jeep up into a spot, in some instances the wheels tend to flail out ( heal out ) giving the elusion that the "C's " are bent. Check the easy things first.
 
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optimus prime said:
Drive your jeep forward 6 feet and check it again. When you back your jeep up into a spot, in some instances the wheels tend to flail out ( heal out ) giving the elusion that the "C's " are bent. Check the easy things first.
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That would be awesome! I have an alignment appointment today anyhow, I hadn't had one done since the lift install. I usually just do them myself and have always been within spec when throwing up on a rack. My jeeps are never my daily driver so alignment isn't that big of a deal to me unless its pulling one way or another enough to bother me

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Here's the outcome of the check on the rack. No adjustments were made. I got there a little late. And was told everything was pretty good. But what I didn't pay attention to right away because there is no spec shown for rear. The rear toe is a bit odd. Maybe that's why I'm getting a pull or should a say push to the right?

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JayKay

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The rear is not adjustable as far as toe and camber since it's a solid axle. As far as the front camber being out, it's not that far and I wouldn't worry about it since you're installing the gussets. By the time you see any drastic tire wear, it'll be time for new skins anyway.
 
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In5ane1

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My front passenger canber is -1.0 and apparently it came that way as I only have 9000 miles on it. Even though tolerance is up to -0.6 the dealer said not to worry biut it and that it would cause any tire wear.

Guess the question is....can you see a degree?
 
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