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AllAmericanInfidel
04-02-2014, 11:52 AM
I was thumbing through the latest Extreme Terrain catalog
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And I saw something that looked strangely familiar to me. Looks like they are selling these as JK side accent decals.
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Not sure if its copyrighted or anything, but I'm pretty sure that's the Project JK logo.

10frank9
04-02-2014, 12:43 PM
Nice catch I'm sure WOL will have something to say about this. :yup:

JayKay
04-02-2014, 01:14 PM
I saw that too and had the same thoughts you do. You beat me to posting it up here.:clap2:

catahoula
04-02-2014, 01:20 PM
Talk about Fucked up!

hinrichs
04-02-2014, 01:39 PM
oh xtreme terrain....I always laugh at their emails when you get a free sticker for spending $250.....not surprised they ripped off one of eddies stickers.

JayKay
04-02-2014, 01:43 PM
I got a calendar from them. All of the pictures in it were so old, everyone had mullets. :crazyeyes:

JKU EXTREME
04-02-2014, 01:58 PM
I'm actually going to try and stop getting Extreme Terrain catalogs because they made a cheaper version of an already cheap product, or is selling a cheap product knockoff. The Shitybuilt bumpers, they found the same bumper or manufactured the same bumper and called it the Baricade. OOOoooooHHHHhhhhh... Special.

JKRay
04-02-2014, 02:02 PM
That's messed up!


Ray ⛺

JayKay
04-02-2014, 02:26 PM
I'm actually going to try and stop getting Extreme Terrain catalogs because they made a cheaper version of an already cheap product, or is selling a cheap product knockoff. The Shitybuilt bumpers, they found the same bumper or manufactured the same bumper and called it the Baricade. OOOoooooHHHHhhhhh... Special.

They look like shit

cozdude
04-02-2014, 02:26 PM
oh xtreme terrain....I always laugh at their emails when you get a free sticker for spending $250.....not surprised they ripped off one of eddies stickers.

haha i do the same. i laugh and just delete every email i see from them.

catahoula
04-02-2014, 02:32 PM
You can also unsubscribe and not get them anymore.

hinrichs
04-02-2014, 02:36 PM
You can also unsubscribe and not get them anymore.

I like them for the laugh factor, and who knows maybe someday Ill turn my jeep into a mall crawler only :crazyeyes:

Brankz
04-02-2014, 03:28 PM
I posted this on random photos 2 nights ago, but Adam the moderator and Eddie told me not to post stuff like this on here so people from waya don't buy them,

Just send him a pm

wayoflife
04-14-2014, 11:10 PM
Sorry Branks, this has been posted and reposted a few times now and so we finally decided to just leave it.

For the record, the Project JK logo as you see it being sold in the Extreme Terrain catalog and up until recently, on their website as well, is registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office - Registration Number: 3,422,569 (Int. Cl.:9 / Prior U.S. Cls.: 21, 23, 26, 36 and 38). Extreme Terrain blatantly ripped me off and only removed these decals from their website ONLY AFTER a formal decease and desist letter from my attorney was sent to them. Even at that, it was like pulling teeth and they are STILL denying that they've done anything wrong as you can see in the response letter they sent.


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To be clear, there are ZERO difference between my copyrighted logo and what they were selling. Owning up to what they did and a simple apology could have gone a long way here but, the fact that they would behave in this manner shows me that they are a business that has NO INTEGRITY.

Hightower
04-14-2014, 11:35 PM
Why people and businesss bother to steal & not do something orginal beyond me.

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newtdog
04-14-2014, 11:38 PM
I don't see those clear differences he's referring to in the letter. That's a straight copy.👎


2010 MANGO TANGO SPORT JKU🇺🇸

AllAmericanInfidel
04-14-2014, 11:54 PM
Sucks this happened but I'm glad to know they are a bunch of asshats whom I will never do business with. I just compared the two (Project JK logo and the one from these idiots) and if there is a difference I cant tell.

Zstairlessone
04-15-2014, 01:48 AM
Sorry Branks, this has been posted and reposted a few times now and so we finally decided to just leave it.

For the record, the Project JK logo as you see it being sold in the Extreme Terrain catalog and up until recently, on their website as well, is registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office - Registration Number: 3,422,569 (Int. Cl.:9 / Prior U.S. Cls.: 21, 23, 26, 36 and 38). Extreme Terrain blatantly ripped me off and only removed these decals from their website ONLY AFTER a formal decease and desist letter from my attorney was sent to them. Even at that, it was like pulling teeth and they are STILL denying that they've done anything wrong as you can see in the response letter they sent.

<img src="http://wayalife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=78781"/>

To be clear, there are ZERO difference between my copyrighted logo and what they were selling. Owning up to what they did and a simple apology could have gone a long way here but, the fact that they would behave in this manner shows me that they are a business that has NO INTEGRITY.

In fact I believe, but you need to verify, everything they made selling those is lost income/opportunity to you and should be recoverable as well. They are probably hoping you don't pursue it out of ignorance of the law and your rights.

piginajeep
04-15-2014, 02:25 AM
Sorry Branks, this has been posted and reposted a few times now and so we finally decided to just leave it.

For the record, the Project JK logo as you see it being sold in the Extreme Terrain catalog and up until recently, on their website as well, is registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office - Registration Number: 3,422,569 (Int. Cl.:9 / Prior U.S. Cls.: 21, 23, 26, 36 and 38). Extreme Terrain blatantly ripped me off and only removed these decals from their website ONLY AFTER a formal decease and desist letter from my attorney was sent to them. Even at that, it was like pulling teeth and they are STILL denying that they've done anything wrong as you can see in the response letter they sent.


78781


To be clear, there are ZERO difference between my copyrighted logo and what they were selling. Owning up to what they did and a simple apology could have gone a long way here but, the fact that they would behave in this manner shows me that they are a business that has NO INTEGRITY.

If they have done nothing wrong why comply?

OverlanderJK
04-15-2014, 02:48 AM
What differences are there? The price? :thinking:

Rayz
04-15-2014, 02:48 AM
In fact I believe, but you need to verify, everything they made selling those is lost income/opportunity to you and should be recoverable as well. They are probably hoping you don't pursue it out of ignorance of the law and your rights.
^^^^^this^^^^^+1

IBeHeWhoIsJoshua
04-15-2014, 02:55 AM
Sorry Branks, this has been posted and reposted a few times now and so we finally decided to just leave it.

For the record, the Project JK logo as you see it being sold in the Extreme Terrain catalog and up until recently, on their website as well, is registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office - Registration Number: 3,422,569 (Int. Cl.:9 / Prior U.S. Cls.: 21, 23, 26, 36 and 38). Extreme Terrain blatantly ripped me off and only removed these decals from their website ONLY AFTER a formal decease and desist letter from my attorney was sent to them. Even at that, it was like pulling teeth and they are STILL denying that they've done anything wrong as you can see in the response letter they sent.


78781


To be clear, there are ZERO difference between my copyrighted logo and what they were selling. Owning up to what they did and a simple apology could have gone a long way here but, the fact that they would behave in this manner shows me that they are a business that has NO INTEGRITY.

...and I will never be a customer of theirs.

trailless
04-15-2014, 03:06 AM
In fact I believe, but you need to verify, everything they made selling those is lost income/opportunity to you and should be recoverable as well. They are probably hoping you don't pursue it out of ignorance of the law and your rights.


While I do believe wayalife would have a case, I think the best course of action is no further action. Extreme Terrain obliged to Wayalife's request and this should end this situation. Nice and simple.

I see no need to incur extra legal fees for a case that may or may not be won. Also there's no telling how long Extreme Terrain could drag the case out.

BTW, I will jot be doing business with them. The main reason is because they did not apologize in any way.

piginajeep
04-15-2014, 03:43 AM
While I do believe wayalife would have a case, I think the best course of action is no further action. Extreme Terrain obliged to Wayalife's request and this should end this situation. Nice and simple.

I see no need to incur extra legal fees for a case that may or may not be won. Also there's no telling how long Extreme Terrain could drag the case out.

BTW, I will jot be doing business with them. The main reason is because they did not apologize in any way.Have someone steal your hard work then tell us if you feel the same.

Brankz
04-15-2014, 03:51 AM
Sorry Branks, this has been posted and reposted a few times now and so we finally decided to just leave it.

For the record, the Project JK logo as you see it being sold in the Extreme Terrain catalog and up until recently, on their website as well, is registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office - Registration Number: 3,422,569 (Int. Cl.:9 / Prior U.S. Cls.: 21, 23, 26, 36 and 38). Extreme Terrain blatantly ripped me off and only removed these decals from their website ONLY AFTER a formal decease and desist letter from my attorney was sent to them. Even at that, it was like pulling teeth and they are STILL denying that they've done anything wrong as you can see in the response letter they sent.


78781


To be clear, there are ZERO difference between my copyrighted logo and what they were selling. Owning up to what they did and a simple apology could have gone a long way here but, the fact that they would behave in this manner shows me that they are a business that has NO INTEGRITY.

Sorry I spam you by accident lol
It's cool bro, the important is that you knew that this Dbags are ripping you off

Woody3
04-15-2014, 04:21 AM
Have someone steal your hard work then tell us if you feel the same.

^^^^^^X2 on this^^^^^

It shouldn't matter how little or much they made from the fraudulent sales, it should all be paid to Eddie. They stole from him and now they need to make it right.


Keep your head low and your powder dry.

MICP3309
04-15-2014, 08:32 PM
I gotta say that between Eddie & Wayalife... and EVO.. You guys need full time investigators to find all the :asshat: that blatantly rip your designs and pass them off as their own.. Guess when your making the best designed stuff out there everyone wants a piece. :naw: Still NO EXCUSE to be a complete douche and not even man up and accept responsibility, and offer an apology.

On a side note: if you are interested in those investigators, I CAN forward my resume, and be paid in Coil Overs :brows::brows:

CONative
04-29-2014, 05:10 PM
Just an FYI - received a catalog today dated 14-April and the decals are showing for sale still on page 16 . . .

gtony12
04-29-2014, 05:20 PM
Just an FYI - received a catalog today dated 14-April and the decals are showing for sale still on page 16 . . .

X2 I just saw the same thing.:thinking:

dannymalkin
05-02-2014, 03:42 AM
The sad part is that this happens everyday in every industry. People's hard work and creativity are undermined even if it is done illegally.

Side note, their entire black friday sale was buy $250 save $10 lol

UpsideUp
05-08-2014, 03:37 PM
I came across the same sticker on Amazon and left a review of the product. I mentioned how the sticker design was stolen and was sure that the creator probably had no knowledge of it. How if someone wanted that sticker design the should just join the forum, meet great people, learn something about Jeeps, and pay the person who deserves to be paid for the design.
Never heard anything back about my review. LoL

Brankz
05-08-2014, 10:20 PM
I came across the same sticker on Amazon and left a review of the product. I mentioned how the sticker design was stolen and was sure that the creator probably had no knowledge of it. How if someone wanted that sticker design the should just join the forum, meet great people, learn something about Jeeps, and pay the person who deserves to be paid for the design.
Never heard anything back about my review. LoL

And here the decal is cheaper, fake stickers go for 10 bucks plus shipping lol

crowrb29
05-08-2014, 10:39 PM
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What kind of DBag signs a letter very truly yours. It's like he's trying to flirt circa 1885.

beans
06-03-2014, 04:54 PM
What kind of DBag signs a letter very truly yours. It's like he's trying to flirt circa 1885.

Aww, I've signed letters "very truly yours" :badday"

JayKay
06-03-2014, 05:12 PM
What kind of DBag signs a letter very truly yours. It's like he's trying to flirt circa 1885.

At least he didn't put and XOXO after it! :brows:

CerOf
06-12-2014, 12:35 AM
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Summer catalog.... :(


Sent from a a few tin cans and some string.

StrizzyChris
06-12-2014, 12:38 AM
Looks like they are not an honest company (insert shocked face) Eddie should order a set to catch them in the act! :yup:

Napalm
06-12-2014, 01:21 AM
Looks like I know who not to do business with.

sean.m.adams33
06-12-2014, 01:31 AM
Some people never learn....:crazyeyes:

DA RUNT
06-12-2014, 02:19 AM
tisk tisk

Very Truly Yours :rolleyes2:

BlackKnight
06-12-2014, 12:32 PM
Pulled myself off the email list, and paper catalogs for them as soon as I saw this thread pop up. However they still send me emails and catalogs. had to mark them as junk, permanently..

wayoflife
06-25-2014, 03:40 PM
I don't know what it is with all the companies ripping me off lately but this is just ridiculous. I've worked hard to come up with my JK logo and paid good money to have it registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office - Registration Number: 3,422,569 (Int. Cl.:9 / Prior U.S. Cls.: 21, 23, 26, 36 and 38). One would think that in a small community like this, a company trying to sell parts would show a bit more discretion. :naw:

catahoula
06-25-2014, 03:44 PM
I don't know what it is with all the companies ripping me off lately but this is just ridiculous. I've worked hard to come up with my JK logo and paid good money to have it registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office - Registration Number: 3,422,569 (Int. Cl.:9 / Prior U.S. Cls.: 21, 23, 26, 36 and 38). One would think that in a small community like this, a company trying to sell parts would show a bit more discretion. :naw:


Yup! Still got the logos in their catalog...BS!

JAGS
06-25-2014, 04:00 PM
I don't know what it is with all the companies ripping me off lately but this is just ridiculous. I've worked hard to come up with my JK logo and paid good money to have it registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office - Registration Number: 3,422,569 (Int. Cl.:9 / Prior U.S. Cls.: 21, 23, 26, 36 and 38). One would think that in a small community like this, a company trying to sell parts would show a bit more discretion. :naw:

Securing a patent is NOT cheap or easy and you've done everything in your power. The only good thing is that you have a forum (figuratively and literally) to show what kind of thieves these guys are. You know for sure they won't get business from any of us. Doesn't make them less of douchbags though.

dwvninety
06-25-2014, 04:55 PM
Glad I saw this. That was one of the company I bookmarked to go back later to purchase stuff. They can be sure I wont spend my hard earned cash with them.

Tree Frog
06-26-2014, 02:38 AM
SO I saw the offer a while back for a free calendar. Signed up and now I get their catalog every month, I get e-mails from them every few days.
But yeah like other folks I will not give my business to a company that does shady crap like this. (Sorry cant spell that unscrop*** word)

sean.m.adams33
06-26-2014, 02:59 AM
Well I've decided to start my own jeep enthusiast website!! It has all sorts of good tips and tricks to help you out! Whether you are an experienced jeep owner or this is your first jeep, there is some useful information for everyone. Click on the link below to order some gear to show your support!!

http://www.project-jk.com/store/


I can't believe how many asshats are trying to benefit from Eddie and Cindy's hard work. Eddie if you need me to sign something you just let me know.

Hightower
06-28-2014, 09:13 AM
I have learned over the years to only buy products made by people I know !


Driver driver GAS!
WAYALIFE mobile app

jesse3638
07-24-2014, 03:54 AM
This looks familiar too.

92913

Found this in the catalog I just got today.

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Napalm90
07-26-2014, 05:33 AM
I say Fuk 'em!!!

wayoflife
07-29-2014, 06:17 PM
Being that I was down in SoCal and then Vegas all last week, I kind of fell behind on my emails and while I've been trying to catch up on them, I came across this one today...


From: David Georgiana
Subject: Project-JK and WAYALIFE partnership
Date: July 23, 2014 at 11:29:24 AM PDT
To: Project-JK Info

Eddie,
This is Dave with ExtremeTerrain. We spoke a while back about advertising opportunities on Project-JK and Wayalife, and you sent me some information about your ad packages. At the time we were still unsure of exactly what direction we were looking to go, but have gotten a clearer idea of what we are looking for in an ad agreement.

When we last spoke I had mentioned that ExtremeTerrain would be interested in being a source of content, in addition to an advetiser. Seeing that you do product reviews and install guides, ExtremeTerrain would love to be a source of products for you to cover on your sites. We understand that the products in question should be interesting, and we definitely have some that are unique, interesting, and relevant to a true Jeep audience. For example, our Barricade Trail Force HD Front Bumpers with LED Lighting have been a huge hit, and a product review or install guide on them would definitely draw your audience's attention.

It would be great to continue discussing a potential partnership, and I would really like to hear back from you to get some information. Please shoot me an email, or you can reach me at ....

Regards,
Dave
ExtremeTerrain.com

These guys are still RIPPING ME OFF by selling my COPYRIGHTED logo and actually have the nerve to contact me in regards to some kind of partnership?? Simply unbelievable :naw:

MR.Ty
07-29-2014, 06:30 PM
:eek: To bad they didn't have the testicular fortitude to admit that they are doing something wrong. :grayno: They have definitely lost me as a potential customer.

2013CGJKU
07-29-2014, 07:19 PM
Wow... These guys just don't get it do they?

Levi

2013 CG JKU 6-speed

hinrichs
07-29-2014, 07:59 PM
Eddie I would have loved to see your write up about an ebay bumper that they offer under another name :clap2::clap2:

KingCopperhead
07-30-2014, 12:15 AM
Friend of mine gave me an extreme terrain catalog a while back. The first thing I saw was the ripoff jk stickers. Their in house line of products doesn't look too appealing.

Totally scummy that they stole your idea and sell it illegally. The only partnership I'd consider with them is sharing a date in court.

They'll never see a dollar of my money.

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darkknight1999
07-30-2014, 03:14 AM
Friend of mine gave me an extreme terrain catalog a while back. The first thing I saw was the ripoff jk stickers. Their in house line of products doesn't look too appealing.

Totally scummy that they stole your idea and sell it illegally. The only partnership I'd consider with them is sharing a date in court.

They'll never see a dollar of my money.

Sent from my HTC6525LVW using WAYALIFE mobile app


That pretty much covers it :beer: See you in court... :rock:

jwb
08-29-2014, 12:50 AM
Well, the letter does say "made unavailable for sale and removed from the website as soon as possible." I'm sure they just forgot about the printed version. Surely they did. :rolleyes2:

wayoflife
09-11-2014, 04:17 PM
Hey everyone, I wanted you all to know that I just received the following written apology from Xtreme Terrain.


On March 31, 2014, ExtremeTerrain.com (XT) was first informed that it was selling a vinyl product for Jeep Wrangler JKs that made use of a design that was created by Mr. Eddie Oh and used on his website, Project-JK.com. ExtremeTerrain.com removed the item from its website the same day it received this letter. As of the date of this statement, XT is happy to announce it has amicably settled the matter with Mr. Oh.

ExtremeTerrain.com apologizes for the fact that our product made use of Mr. Oh’s trademark without his permission. While there is no argument that this product did make use of the trademark, XT did not intentionally do so. One of XT’s designers had seen the image in a context that did not make it apparent that the design was unique or owned by Mr. Oh/Project-JK.com. We here at XT are sorry for the mistake and have taken actions to ensure that such a situation does not happen again.

TheDuff
09-11-2014, 04:37 PM
Hey everyone, I wanted you all to know that I just received the following written apology from Xtreme Terrain.

Sure it won't be long till the next catalog is sent out... we'll see if they actually have stopped trying to sell your logo then.

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Sharkey
09-11-2014, 04:53 PM
Glad to see the issue was resolved and they apologized. :thumb:

sean.m.adams33
09-11-2014, 05:14 PM
Glad to see companies taking action on these things. Now if they could only not steal them in the first place.:rolleyes2:

10frank9
09-11-2014, 07:17 PM
Hey everyone, I wanted you all to know that I just received the following written apology from Xtreme Terrain.

This was after they vehemently said that it was NOT the same as your copyrighted PJK sticker? :grayno:

I give them credit for finally admitting they were wrong.

TheDuff
09-11-2014, 08:02 PM
This was after they vehemently said that it was NOT the same as your copyrighted PJK sticker? :grayno:

I give them credit for finally admitting they were wrong.

I wouldn't consider the apology as admitting wrong doing. Looked more like a lame excuse and trying to pass it off as a simple misunderstanding... if the sticker had stopped showing up in the printed catalogue within a issue or two of Their initial response to Eddie's first email, then I would feel more compelled to give these guys the benefit of the doubt. But, when I still saw the sticker for sale in no less than three issues following their response to remove it, I can't honestly say the apology was sincerely meant. I'd wager that they had a lot of them printed up and wanted to sell off as many of those as possible before removing it from the physical catalog.... :mad:

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ScoobyCarolanNC
03-12-2015, 05:15 AM
BTW, I will (n)ot be doing business with them. The main reason is because they did not apologize in any way.

Not jumping down your throat, but even if they were down on both knees apologizing, they still ripped it off. They were banking on it being unprotected. Scumbags. It makes me furious that good people need lawyers to protect their hard work.

10frank9
03-12-2015, 05:22 AM
Not jumping down your throat, but even if they were down on both knees apologizing, they still ripped it off. They were banking on it being unprotected. Scumbags. It makes me furious that good people need lawyers to protect their hard work.

Talk about a thread revival!? How did you stumble across this one?

n3tfury
03-31-2015, 04:24 AM
When I get back to the office, I'm chucking the 2015 calendar in the garbage.

ridg3runner
03-31-2015, 04:36 AM
When I get back to the office, I'm chucking the 2015 calendar in the garbage.

Pics or it didn't happen, lol

ArmyofMike
03-31-2015, 05:03 AM
When I get back to the office, I'm chucking the 2015 calendar in the garbage.

...will that be the 2014, or the 2015 calendar? Tehehehehee

Tallhamer
11-18-2015, 05:43 AM
wow. I never knew that extreme terrain was like that I have bought several things from them and got it fast and had no problems. Reading this makes me never want to buy from them again or support them.

Tombstone
02-11-2016, 09:11 PM
Isn't or not the same as the JK forums decal?

CastleRockJeep
02-11-2016, 09:16 PM
Isn't or not the same as the JK forums decal?

From 4/4/14
Sorry Branks, this has been posted and reposted a few times now and so we finally decided to just leave it.



For the record, the Project JK logo as you see it being sold in the Extreme Terrain catalog and up until recently, on their website as well, is registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office - Registration Number: 3,422,569 (Int. Cl.:9 / Prior U.S. Cls.: 21, 23, 26, 36 and 38). Extreme Terrain blatantly ripped me off and only removed these decals from their website ONLY AFTER a formal decease and desist letter from my attorney was sent to them. Even at that, it was like pulling teeth and they are STILL denying that they've done anything wrong as you can see in the response letter they sent.

wayoflife
02-11-2016, 09:59 PM
Isn't or not the same as the JK forums decal?

Welcome to WAYALIFE, it's nice to see you make a post that isn't a "wave" :crazyeyes:

As it has already been said, no, my copyrighted logo is for my website www.Project-JK.com. While I did own JK-Forum, I sold it to Internet Brands a while ago. They now have their own logo.