C gussets

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Danish13

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Hello everyone, I have a question about c gussets. I am in need of gussets and was wondering if I need both upper and lower or is the upper strong enough to keep it from bending both ways?


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utiadam

utiadam

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Northridge has a package deal on the Evo C gussets with the front lower control arm skids. That's what I did.
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Danish13

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OverlanderJK said:
Yes you need both. Not even sure you can buy then separate.
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Oh okay thanks for the quick reply, I was just looking at 4 wheel parts and they had rock krawler uppers but dont have the lowers. That's what sparked the question.


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utiadam

utiadam

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Danish13 said:
That looks great, did you have to remove the ball joints to weld them in?


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It's best to remove them but we did not. We did about 1" at a time and cooled them down while going to the other side.
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JAGS

JAGS

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C's, front LCA and rear rock stars. The rock stars are more of a skid and clearance increase.

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Debates are endless on effectiveness of axle sleeves and trusses for the rear. A rear rubi D44 is pretty strong, unless you like to bomb through the desert and hit whoops at high speeds.


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Christarp

Christarp

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JAGS said:
C's, front LCA and rear rock stars. The rock stars are more of a skid and clearance increase.


Debates are endless on effectiveness of axle sleeves and trusses for the rear. A rear rubi D44 is pretty strong, unless you like to bomb through the desert and hit whoops at high speeds.


- Jason
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Actually Dynatrac has laid out exactly how strong an axle with a sleeve is compared to stock and a PR44 in their FAQ. It's up to you to decide if you think it's worth it.

dynatrac FAQ said:
Strength in Bending
Note: Values greater than one indicate an improvement in bending strength. For example, the stock housing
with a sleeve is 1.35 times as strong when compared to the stock housing without a sleeve.
Stock JK Axle 2.5” OD x 0.25” = 1.0
Stock JK Axle with 2.0" OD x 0.25" sleeve on inside of tube = 1.35
Dynatrac JK Trail Series – Stock JK Pumpkin with re-tube to 2.75" OD x 0.375" = 1.79
Dynatrac ProRock 44 Standard Axle Tube 3.0" OD x 0.3125" = 2.13
Dynatrac ProRock 44 Extreme Duty Axle Tube 3.0" OD x 0.5" = 2.82

Weight
Note: Values greater than one correspond to an increase in weight. The ratios below show that the sleeve is
one of the heaviest options.
Stock JK Axle 2.5” OD x 0.25” = 1.0
Stock JK Axle with 2.0" OD x 0.25" sleeve on inside = 1.78
Dynatrac JK Trail Series Axle Housing Tube 2.75" OD x 0.375" = 1.58
Dynatrac ProRock 44 Standard Axle Tube 3.0" OD x 0.3125" = 1.49
Dynatrac ProRock 44 Extreme Duty Axle Tube 3.0" OD x 0.5" = 2.22

Strength Per Pound Ratio
Note: This metric compares the strength improvement to the weight increase. Obviously, adding strength will
add weight, however, not every pound added leads to the same improvement in strength. Strength is a
combination of material properties and geometry in this case. Adding material to the outside of the axle tube
will result in a greater improvement of strength for the same weight of material added.
Stock JK = 1.0
Stock JK with sleeve = 0.76
Dynatrac Trail Series JK Axle = 1.13
Dynatrac ProRock 44 Standard Axle Tube = 1.43
Dynatrac ProRock 44 Extreme Duty Axle Tube = 1.27
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OverlanderJK

OverlanderJK

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Christarp said:
Actually Dynatrac has laid out exactly how strong an axle with a sleeve is compared to stock and a PR44 in their FAQ. It's up to you to decide if you think it's worth it.
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Sleeves won't do anything to keep your axle from bending at the housing.
 
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