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CrunchyPeanutbutter
11-06-2014, 03:38 PM
Funny, don't know too many 3 year olds that even know what the word sarcasm is let alone knows how to do it well but, most do know how to throw a tantrum over a whole lot of nothing.

Never said that you were disagreeing with me and if you took the time to read what I had said instead of getting all butthurt, you would know that I had already stated essentially what you were saying back on post #3. Even a 3 year old could do that if they tried.



To be honest, I don't know you from Adam and don't have a clue as to what you have or haven't seen. The only thing I know is that you can type words on an internet forum. But, that's a moot point. As I had to the OP right from the get go, "I would just play with what you got and for as long as you can until you can save up enough for a ProRock 44." Of course, you're more than welcome to gloss over that again just so you can get all butthurt and shoot your mouth off some more. :yup:



How about you just leave and not come back. I know it's hard to believe but, nobody will miss you. Just sayin.

Of course you want me to leave. I'm not one of your lackeys that bows down to your every word. And for what it's worth, you would miss me. You seem to relish the attention you get when you can argue and belittle others on here. That's why you have the reputation you have in the wheeling community. Wayalife is a joke and you clearly don't understand the true concept of Jeeping and way of life. For you, it's a business you have built here and that is all. It's not a true community, it's a business. That's why you slam certain products and push others, like the ProRock 44 youre pushing here. For 99.95% of JK owners, that axle is overkill but you have a vested interest in pushing that product.

So maybe I should just leave as you have made it quite clear you don't want anyone here who won't drink your special kool aide.


NOTE: This thread was moved from here:
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CrunchyPeanutbutter
11-06-2014, 03:41 PM
You're right, some people do have lives and don't feel the need to spend ANY time defending themselves on the internet over a whole lot of nothing. Of course, if this guy really had a life, he wouldn't take the time to broadcast that he'll be back for more... just not in a timely manner. :naw:

I was accused of not responding in a timely manner in an earlier thread. Some of us travel. So, if I say nothing I get blamed for abandoning this thread, I explain my absence and I get accused of not having a life. I do have a life BTW, and that is what prevents me from responding in a timely manner, unike you who can spend 15 hrs a day on here.

cozdude
11-06-2014, 03:43 PM
Of course you want me to leave. I'm not one of your lackeys that bows down to your every word. And for what it's worth, you would miss me. You seem to relish the attention you get when you can argue and belittle others on here. That's why you have the reputation you have in the wheeling community. Wayalife is a joke and you clearly don't understand the true concept of Jeeping and way of life. For you, it's a business you have built here and that is all. It's not a true community, it's a business. That's why you slam certain products and push others, like the ProRock 44 youre pushing here. For 99.95% of JK owners, that axle is overkill but you have a vested interest in pushing that product.

So maybe I should just leave as you have made it quite clear you don't want anyone here who won't drink your special kool aide.

oh yea a pr44 is so much overkill that he is trying to save you money in the long run cause we all know the tera44 or something else is so much stronger :crazyeyes:. you should just go back to whatever forum you came from and stay there.

CrunchyPeanutbutter
11-06-2014, 03:43 PM
Crunchypenisbutter

:cheesy:

Another nut hugging kool aide drinker trolling for a date!

Sorry, I like women.

Sorry you have nothing to contribute worth while and only want to troll!

CrunchyPeanutbutter
11-06-2014, 03:44 PM
It actually has a lot to do with everything, we are all people trying to enjoy ourselves on these forums trying to mabey get a little escape from the real world ,I can't emagine what it would be like to have all the time in the world to set in front of the PC and try to think up comments to throw back and forth at each other , I'm not saying you do this. But wow I sure see a lot of it lately. Its kinda funny no one can rise above the smart ass comments and act like full grown men and lady's. We all have such a awsome hobby and interest in our jeeps . I always tell my husband jeep people are good people but if he were to come on the forums and see how we act that would be a hard point to prove.

Well said.

ridg3runner
11-06-2014, 03:45 PM
I was accused of not responding in a timely manner in an earlier thread. Some of us travel. So, if I say nothing I get blamed for abandoning this thread, I explain my absence and I get accused of not having a life. I do have a life BTW, and that is what prevents me from responding in a timely manner, unike you who can spend 15 hrs a day on here.

News Flash: I travel too, probably way more than you, roughly 1200 miles a day, and yet here I am. What's your excuse again?

cozdude
11-06-2014, 03:47 PM
News Flash: I travel too, probably way more than you, roughly 1200 miles a day, and yet here I am. What's your excuse again?

no texting and driving!!! :shock:

ridg3runner
11-06-2014, 03:49 PM
So maybe I should just leave as you have made it quite clear you don't want anyone here who won't drink your special kool aide.

And yet you're still here running your neck. Maybe it's YOU that needs us?

CrunchyPeanutbutter
11-06-2014, 03:50 PM
News Flash: I travel too, probably way more than you, roughly 1200 miles a day, and yet here I am. What's your excuse again?

Good for you.

So then you're trying to tell me that everywhere you travel has cell and internet service? That very well may be true for some people but that is certainly not the case for all of us and if you think it is, you lead a very sheltered life and really should expand your horizons.

ridg3runner
11-06-2014, 03:58 PM
no texting and driving!!! :shock:

I'm multitasking. 109136

ridg3runner
11-06-2014, 03:59 PM
Good for you.

So then you're trying to tell me that everywhere you travel has cell and internet service? That very well may be true for some people but that is certainly not the case for all of us and if you think it is, you lead a very sheltered life and really should expand your horizons.

Maybe you should try Verizon.

bkac
11-06-2014, 04:01 PM
Maybe you should try Verizon.

:thumbup: I agree!

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gtony12
11-06-2014, 04:10 PM
:idontknow: I am lost wasn't this thread about tires:thinking: I really enjoy the forum to learn all I can on the best products and what products really work. I take what Eddie says and every body else and put in my consideration on what I want to buy. I do want to know what holds up and doesn't. I am the one buying it. If people find a product that holds up under mild circumstances but fails under " hard wheeling" I want to know that. Why buy a product with limitations. :idontknow: just my take:twocents: I enjoy the forum and new friends I have made. :thumb:

PS. I joined the forum to receive opinions not to push my opinions.

olram30
11-06-2014, 04:38 PM
This turd is still floating around? Another guy who makes hit and run posts.

Sharkey
11-06-2014, 05:43 PM
Another nut hugging kool aide drinker trolling for a date!

Sorry, I like women.

Sorry you have nothing to contribute worth while and only want to troll!

Lol! Don't flatter yourself. My wife is hot. As for who is the troll in this conversation, I'll keep letting you prove the answer every time you open your mouth.

gtony12
11-06-2014, 05:46 PM
Lol! Don't flatter yourself. My wife is hot. As for who is the troll in this conversion, I'll keep letting you prove the answer every time you open your mouth.

x2 Sharkeys's wife is HOT, sorry don't hit me!

catahoula
11-06-2014, 05:53 PM
Lol! Don't flatter yourself. My wife is hot. As for who is the troll in this conversion, I'll keep letting you prove the answer every time you open your mouth.

Pics please:)

Sharkey
11-06-2014, 07:02 PM
x2 Sharkeys's wife is HOT, sorry don't hit me!

:cheesy::cheesy:

Sharkey
11-06-2014, 07:03 PM
Pics please:)

Lol...not going to happen.

mikefishes
11-06-2014, 07:07 PM
I'm multitasking. 109136

That is just such a disturbing photo! :icon_crazy:

LKWJeeper
11-06-2014, 08:57 PM
I'm multitasking. 109136
I can do this too.. I thought that was me until I noticed my hairy feet were missing.

NAUJK
11-06-2014, 09:11 PM
I have no idea what's going on here but. I got a prorock because I bent my d30... and a Rubicon 44 front still has d30 tubes which is what I bent.... if you have the ability to afford a prorock do it.... Why get something that is just as easy to bend or break? :don't know:

Personally if you wheel enough to warrant a replacement front axle you wheel enough for a prorock to not be overkill... just my 2 cents

MR.Ty
11-06-2014, 09:35 PM
Sorry you have nothing to contribute worth while and only want to troll!

Pot meet kettle.

pastorwug
11-06-2014, 09:35 PM
I'm multitasking. 109136

At least you've clipped your nails! :cheesy:

Armydog
11-06-2014, 09:38 PM
I have no idea what's going on here but. I got a prorock because I bent my d30... and a Rubicon 44 front still has d30 tubes which is what I bent.... if you have the ability to afford a prorock do it.... Why get something that is just as easy to bend or break? :don't know:

Personally if you wheel enough to warrant a replacement front axle you wheel enough for a prorock to not be overkill... just my 2 cents

AGREED!!!! What is OVERKILL?. Can something be too dead?? Can something be too strong??? Too expensive, maybe....for now but that is why God invented the penny jar! PR60 front and rear is my goal!! to much for a TJ? I think not....just might need a bigger motor down the road.....

how is that a bad thing???

just saying
:beer::beer::beer::beer:

Yell_Hoe
11-07-2014, 02:05 AM
Thanks for welcoming me to this fine forum. I look forward to learning lots.





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olram30
11-07-2014, 02:08 AM
Thanks for welcoming me to this fine forum. I look forward to learning lots.





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Welcome to the forum

10frank9
11-07-2014, 02:18 AM
Thanks for welcoming me to this fine forum. I look forward to learning lots.





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Welcome to Wayalife!

:standing wave:


Matti..... Is that you?

gtony12
11-07-2014, 03:42 AM
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Yell_Hoe
11-07-2014, 04:15 AM
Welcome to Wayalife!

:standing wave:


Matti..... Is that you?

Nope.. :)

Just being a sarcastic dikk :). Spent to much time on pirates i guess



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10frank9
11-07-2014, 04:17 AM
Nope.. :)

Just being a sarcastic dikk :). Spent to much time on pirates i guess



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I have a feeling you're going to fit in juuuuuuuuust fine here. :crazyeyes:

olram30
11-07-2014, 04:21 AM
Nope.. :)

Just being a sarcastic dikk :). Spent to much time on pirates i guess



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Well, welcome anyways I guess..

Panda
11-07-2014, 04:28 AM
Nope.. :)

Just being a sarcastic dikk :). Spent to much time on pirates i guess



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Why not just stay there? You thought it would be fun to come on here and start crap? :idontknow:

Brankz
11-07-2014, 04:30 AM
At least you've clipped your nails! :cheesy:
Not like brankZ

:( why you say that!!! 🙊🙉🙈😭 lol

pastorwug
11-07-2014, 05:28 AM
:( why you say that!!! 🙊🙉🙈😭 lol

Brankzie I would never comment on your beautiful pedicures, Lee on the other hand (?)😜

ridg3runner
11-07-2014, 06:54 AM
Just being a sarcastic dikk :).

Someone mention my name?

OverlanderJK
11-07-2014, 06:52 PM
Yay another dog pile thread!!

And if you mention your wife in any thread it should be an unwritten wayalife rule you have to post a picture of your wife.

Mine...

109636

How much??

Jackal01
11-07-2014, 07:09 PM
Maybe I am too nice and polite of a husband but I would never think to flaunt my wife, despite her high level of beauty and hotness, online just to show off. Different thing to post pics of a wheeling trip and she's in the shots. Totally different purpose and goal there.

I find this despicable.

JK_Dave
11-07-2014, 07:12 PM
How much??

:cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:

Somebody had to go there. I can't even believe this got posted. It's probably a picture he got off the internet, but still.

Jackal01
11-07-2014, 07:19 PM
The fireplace looks stupid too. Can't have everything.

Fir-na-tine
11-07-2014, 07:22 PM
Nope.. :)

Just being a sarcastic dikk :). Spent to much time on pirates i guess



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Sounds legit ;)..........

:flag_bs:.........:spy:


~Woodrow~

ridg3runner
11-07-2014, 07:27 PM
It's probably a picture he got off the internet, but still.

I bet she's a French Model, too. 109950

JAGS
11-07-2014, 07:31 PM
How much??

If you have to ask, you couldn't afford it. Or maybe that was for Jeep parts only? :thinking:

catahoula
11-07-2014, 09:21 PM
Yay another dog pile thread!!

And if you mention your wife in any thread it should be an unwritten wayalife rule you have to post a picture of your wife.

Mine...

<img src="http://wayalife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=109636"/>

Very nice!

computeruser6
11-09-2014, 07:49 AM
Thank you.

A voice of reason like this appears to be quite rare here.

If you would like some reason perhaps I can give you some. You believe that the Dana 30 off-road use with 37" tires. Here's what the Dana Corporation has to say about the strength of the Dana 44 (http://www.crateaxle.com/sites/default/files/lituploads/dana44.pdf) and (http://www.crateaxle.com/sites/default/files/lituploads/Dana%2044%20Rear%20Crate%20Axle%20Dimensions.pdf) Dana 60 (http://www.crateaxle.com/sites/default/files/lituploads/dana60.pdf) rear axles (http://www.crateaxle.com/sites/default/files/lituploads/Dana%2060%20Rear%20Crate%20Axle%20Dimensions%20.pd f). Some people may say use sleeves and gussets and/or weld a truss on, those components will help the housing some but do nothing to strengthen other components such as: carrier bearings, pinion bearings, wheel bearings, the ring and pinion, and the carrier. For making the tubes stronger a larger O.D. tube will have the best effect and have the best strength to weight ratio (http://dynatrac.com/pdfs/ProRock%20FAQ_revK.pdf). Some would say to add chromoly shafts to a Dana 30, but the stock shafts are more ductile and will bend and flex more instead of transferring more shock loading to the ring, pinion, and carrier.

Using large diameter and heavy tires with low backspace wheels will have detrimental effects on wheel bearings. An unbalanced load will cause excessive and uneven bearing wear. The problems with using larger tires are not just the weight, but the larger diameter will cause more centripetal force to be generated since the radius is larger. Twenty or thirty pounds may not seem like much of a mass increase, but that mass has a much larger effect when it's quickly rotating. In the case of the stock front wheel bearing, the bearing itself cannot be inspected or pulled apart without essentially destroying it. It is possible that there may be some play in the bearing or that a front wheel speed sensor may give an implausible wheel speed signal, or the bearing could just give up without much warning. I wouldn't say that it's weak, it simply was never meant to withstand such use.
I've had a rear pinion bearing give up on me. The bearing was heavily pitted and had a lot of play in it. I also have had a set 10 wheel bearing fail on me in the rear axle. The bearing seized up and generated enough heat to burn my finger when I touched the hub flange and caused the axle seal to fail. I ran LT285/75R-17 Toyo M/T's weighing in at 71 lbs for about 24,000 miles when the failures occured. Maybe I pushed the Jeep too hard, maybe Royal Purple gear oil sucks at lubricating, perhaps I'm just blessed like that? Whatever the case may be I would say it's unreasonable to expect a Dana 30 to withstand 37" tires off-road. Here's an example of a man who tried 37" tires on a Dana 30, started to build up bigger axles, and then blew up his Dana 30 ring and pinion (http://www.wranglerforum.com/f314/tweaks-build-thread-272841-2.html). Whether it's on this forum (http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?20780-40s-on-Dana-44&highlight=Dana+40%27s) or others (http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/can-my-sahara-axles-handle-37s-822922.html) people will disagree about what a good axle for large tires is. Peanutbutter, could you explain why you believe a Dana 30 is adequate for 37" tires? You like reason, right? Do you have any documentation, analysis, or experience to back up what you're saying?

110095

110096

110097

It is very possible for axle components pushed beyond design limits to fail (http://www.billhughes.com/dana35c/), and the person doing such to their vehicle should understand possible outcomes. Any cost analysis should include the possibility of recovery costs, towing costs, that the dealer probably might not warranty a Dana 30 with a truss welded to it running 37" tires, and any applicable repair bills, especially if the individual is not doing their own labor. Going cheap is not always cheap in the end.


For you, it's a business you have built here and that is all. It's not a true community, it's a business. That's why you slam certain products and push others, like the ProRock 44 youre pushing here. For 99.95% of JK owners, that axle is overkill but you have a vested interest in pushing that product.

So maybe I should just leave as you have made it quite clear you don't want anyone here who won't drink your special kool aide.


NOTE: This thread was moved from here:
http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?21277-tires&highlight=tires

It's not as if Wayalife is the only place that would preferentially promote certain products. What do you think all the other forums run off of, goodwill and charity? You claim to like reason, can you explain why a better Dana 44 housing is overkill for 99.95% of Jeep owners? I've posted up about Solid Axle (http://solidaxle.com/) before and I'm still here. It's not like Dynatrac is the only manufacturer of better housings and assemblies. Dana makes what they call "Ultimate Dana 60's (http://www.spicerparts.com/sites/default/files/pdf/perf-ultimate60-62014.pdf)" meant for severe off-road abuse, Solid Axle (http://solidaxle.com/ProductCart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=4) makes good assemblies, and of course Dynatrac (http://dynatrac.com/products/jk/ProRock4460Hybrid.html) does also. I assure you Peanutbutter that I'm not drinking any cool-aid and would be interested in any detailed explanations you have as to why the Dana 30 could withstand off-road use with 37" tires.

ridg3runner
11-09-2014, 01:01 PM
If you would like some reason perhaps I can give you some.

It's a shame you had to waste your time writing Crunchybutt a novel to explain real life to him, but it appears Elvis has already left the building.

pastorwug
11-09-2014, 02:35 PM
It's a shame you had to waste your time writing Crunchybutt a novel to explain real life to him, but it appears Elvis has already left the building.

Hey wait, I kind of liked Elvis! :clap2:

computeruser6
11-09-2014, 05:28 PM
It's a shame you had to waste your time writing Crunchybutt a novel to explain real life to him, but it appears Elvis has already left the building.

He could always come back, I have patience. It seems like Peanutbutter killed the OP's original intent for the thread so he should get something out of it.

ridg3runner
11-09-2014, 05:30 PM
He could always come back, I have patience. It seems like Peanutbutter killed the OP's original intent for the thread so he should get something out of it.

He did..CrunchyButt was awarded his own thread, that's how it works in order to not pollute the original thread.

computeruser6
11-09-2014, 05:39 PM
I should have posted the explanation there then I guess. I guess I could just copy and paste most of what I typed up. I don't feel like typing up anything new now.

CrunchyPeanutbutter
08-27-2016, 03:14 AM
Need a t case

thardy
08-27-2016, 03:33 AM
Welcome back! I thought you decided to leave? :thinking:

WJCO
08-27-2016, 03:37 AM
Hey, when you need a tcase, you need a tcase..... :cheesy:

thardy
08-27-2016, 04:02 AM
Hey, when you need a tcase, you need a tcase..... :cheesy:

Gotta love when someone has their own thread trash talking the forum almost 2 years ago and pop back in for tcase.

cozdude
08-27-2016, 02:55 PM
Need a t case

Welcome back! Good to see you back in your own thread instead of stinking up the rest of the forum

notnalc68
08-27-2016, 03:00 PM
Gotta love when someone has their own thread trash talking the forum almost 2 years ago and pop back in for tcase.

219822

2 years! That's like time travel or something.

sipafz
08-27-2016, 04:45 PM
219836
Ten characters

JKbrick
08-27-2016, 04:53 PM
Geez Ridgerunner, the only dbag that never bothered to say thank you to a part with free shipping from Indiana to California from the free shit thread. Memories.....

jesse3638
08-27-2016, 09:52 PM
Geez Ridgerunner, the only dbag that never bothered to say thank you to a part with free shipping from Indiana to California from the free shit thread. Memories.....

There are a lot of old members in that thread...haha.

WJCO
08-27-2016, 11:37 PM
219919......

CrunchyPeanutbutter
06-13-2019, 11:36 PM
That being said, tires are a totally different situation and several good ones that are made in the USA can be found. In this case, at only about $10 more than these Chinese ones.


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These Patagonia MT in 38x13.50-17 can be had for $192 a tire. You can't hardly find a 35 for that price in name brands. Feel free to prove me wrong and post links to 37-38" tire's for $202 a tire.

As for th cheap price, doesn't mean they are bad tire's. When Pro Comps and Iroks came out they were stupid cheap. I bought both and was quite happy with them. They have both turned out to be solid tire's in a saturated market. Why not jump on the Patagonia bad wagon? They may turn out to be the same.

Seems like those that are actually running them like them and those hating on them have zero experience with them. Go figure.

OverlanderJK
06-14-2019, 12:54 AM
These Patagonia MT in 38x13.50-17 can be had for $192 a tire. You can't hardly find a 35 for that price in name brands. Feel free to prove me wrong and post links to 37-38" tire's for $202 a tire.

As for th cheap price, doesn't mean they are bad tire's. When Pro Comps and Iroks came out they were stupid cheap. I bought both and was quite happy with them. They have both turned out to be solid tire's in a saturated market. Why not jump on the Patagonia bad wagon? They may turn out to be the same.

Seems like those that are actually running them like them and those hating on them have zero experience with them. Go figure.

Fuck off jackass. Clearly you don’t like it here.

Wayalife is a joke and you clearly don't understand the true concept of Jeeping
https://wayalife.com/showthread.php?t=21738


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RESURECTIONJK
06-14-2019, 01:43 AM
These Patagonia MT in 38x13.50-17 can be had for $192 a tire. You can't hardly find a 35 for that price in name brands. Feel free to prove me wrong and post links to 37-38" tire's for $202 a tire.

As for th cheap price, doesn't mean they are bad tire's. When Pro Comps and Iroks came out they were stupid cheap. I bought both and was quite happy with them. They have both turned out to be solid tire's in a saturated market. Why not jump on the Patagonia bad wagon? They may turn out to be the same.

Seems like those that are actually running them like them and those hating on them have zero experience with them. Go figure.

Crunchy peanut butter... is that just another name to describe the form of turds you like to snack on. Or the one you like shoved back up your ass? Asking for a friend...

WJCO
06-14-2019, 01:57 AM
These Patagonia MT in 38x13.50-17 can be had for $192 a tire. You can't hardly find a 35 for that price in name brands. Feel free to prove me wrong and post links to 37-38" tire's for $202 a tire.

As for th cheap price, doesn't mean they are bad tire's. When Pro Comps and Iroks came out they were stupid cheap. I bought both and was quite happy with them. They have both turned out to be solid tire's in a saturated market. Why not jump on the Patagonia bad wagon? They may turn out to be the same.

Seems like those that are actually running them like them and those hating on them have zero experience with them. Go figure.

328818.......

longarmwj
06-14-2019, 02:05 AM
Seems like this dude pops up randomly every two years just to start shit.

Also I feel like he’s total unworthy of my 3,000th Wayalife post but aye here we are


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Jsouder53
06-14-2019, 02:56 AM
Seems like this dude pops up randomly every two years just to start shit.

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I was thinking the same thing earlier. Only trying to start shit

A.J.
06-14-2019, 05:15 AM
Seems like this dude pops up randomly every two years just to start shit.

Also I feel like he’s total unworthy of my 3,000th Wayalife post but aye here we are


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Post whore


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TrailHunter
06-14-2019, 05:23 AM
Post whore


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2500 were from today.

CrunchyPeanutbutter
06-14-2019, 09:39 AM
That being said, tires are a totally different situation and several good ones that are made in the USA can be found. In this case, at only about $10 more than these Chinese ones.


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So it looks like the 38" Patagonias can be had for $192 a tire. Please share ANY tire that can be had for $202!

It seems that those that actually own and are running these tire's like them and all the hate is come from those with zero first hand experience with them. They are being bashed for their low prices yet when Iroks and Pro Comps came out their prices were stupid low also. Both have turned into solid performers in this saturated tire market and are now respected. Who knows, Patagonia might end up the same.

jorgelrod
06-14-2019, 11:40 AM
Someone need to up his post count for his Boys Scout Internet troll badge, why else would he keep coming back? :doh::doh:

CrunchyPeanutbutter
06-14-2019, 12:31 PM
Someone need to up his post count for his Boys Scout Internet troll badge, why else would he keep coming back? :doh::doh:

Nope, just asking a valid question. I would love to find a quality, made in the USA 37-38" tire for around $200. I'm sure many other forum users would as well.

You also can't deny that actual users of these tire's are pleased so far.

A.J.
06-14-2019, 01:06 PM
I have them they are as quiet as everyone says and they were cheap. Time will tell if they are any good long term or start having separation problems etc. that sometimes plague cheap Indonesian made tires.


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WJCO
06-14-2019, 01:06 PM
I would love to find a quality, made in the USA 37-38" tire for around $200. I'm sure many other forum users would as well.

You also can't deny that actual users of these tire's are pleased so far.


You get what you pay for. I would love to get a high quality steak at a 5 star restaurant for McDonalds pricing.

You also can't deny that the actual customers that eat at McDonalds are pleased so far.


Since this forum is a joke to you, I really don't see what you give a flying fuck about what tires are or aren't being run by members here.

CrunchyPeanutbutter
06-14-2019, 01:25 PM
You get what you pay for.


Since this forum is a joke to you, I really don't see what you give a flying fuck about what tires are or aren't being run by members here.

You are correct about getting what you pay for. The Iroks I bought when they first came out were the best off road tire I have ever ran, and they were cheap! 4 36s for $750. The Pro Comps were very good too, and cheap. Now look at their prices.

I never said this forum or any part of it was a joke!

Great Jeeper spirit you have going on there. Keep up the good work.

I guess people can't agree to disagree and be civil anymore.

WJCO
06-14-2019, 01:35 PM
I never said this forum or any part of it was a joke!

328835..................



Of course you want me to leave. I'm not one of your lackeys that bows down to your every word. And for what it's worth, you would miss me. You seem to relish the attention you get when you can argue and belittle others on here. That's why you have the reputation you have in the wheeling community. Wayalife is a joke and you clearly don't understand the true concept of Jeeping and way of life. For you, it's a business you have built here and that is all. It's not a true community, it's a business. That's why you slam certain products and push others, like the ProRock 44 youre pushing here. For 99.95% of JK owners, that axle is overkill but you have a vested interest in pushing that product.

So maybe I should just leave as you have made it quite clear you don't want anyone here who won't drink your special kool aide.

longarmwj
06-14-2019, 01:36 PM
Post whore


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2500 were from today.

Nah I'm not a post whore, I use protection

Exodus Jeeps
06-14-2019, 01:44 PM
You’re not going to find a US made tire that cheap because we have child labor laws here. You’re also seeing a lot of them on social media because the company is handing them out to every “influencer” for free. It’s working. Im getting tons of calls about them and even though I have access to them I outright refuse to sell them.

You are correct that everyone running them so far is pleased, but I’ll let you in on some insight. It’s extremely hard to find people who can afford to be honest about their bad decisions. What I mean by that is, most people are too proud to admit they spent their hard earned money on shit and will talk themselves and everyone around them into liking the bad decision they made. I see it all the time when people come by the shop with a shitty lift on their Jeep. They “love it”, but they’re looking for something different.

Just my 2 cents but I have a feeling they’ll be old news once the real problems with them start to surface. I could be wrong though and maybe they hook up well off-road and last a long time. If it were me I’d wait another year before jumping into the Kool Aid with everyone on them and see how they pan out.



Nope, just asking a valid question. I would love to find a quality, made in the USA 37-38" tire for around $200. I'm sure many other forum users would as well.

You also can't deny that actual users of these tire's are pleased so far.




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TrailHunter
06-14-2019, 01:53 PM
You’re not going to find a US made tire that cheap because we have child labor laws here. You’re also seeing a lot of them on social media because the company is handing them out to every “influencer” for free. It’s working. Im getting tons of calls about them and even though I have access to them I outright refuse to sell them.

You are correct that everyone running them so far is pleased, but I’ll let you in on some insight. It’s extremely hard to find people who can afford to be honest about their bad decisions. What I mean by that is, most people are too proud to admit they spent their hard earned money on shit and will talk themselves and everyone around them into liking the bad decision they made. I see it all the time when people come by the shop with a shitty lift on their Jeep. They “love it”, but they’re looking for something different.

Just my 2 cents but I have a feeling they’ll be old news once the real problems with them start to surface. I could be wrong though and maybe they hook up well off-road and last a long time. If it were me I’d wait another year before jumping into the Kool Aid with everyone on them and see how they pan out.







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.......and they are ugly.

longarmwj
06-14-2019, 02:06 PM
You’re not going to find a US made tire that cheap because we have child labor laws here. You’re also seeing a lot of them on social media because the company is handing them out to every “influencer” for free. It’s working. Im getting tons of calls about them and even though I have access to them I outright refuse to sell them.

You are correct that everyone running them so far is pleased, but I’ll let you in on some insight. It’s extremely hard to find people who can afford to be honest about their bad decisions. What I mean by that is, most people are too proud to admit they spent their hard earned money on shit and will talk themselves and everyone around them into liking the bad decision they made. I see it all the time when people come by the shop with a shitty lift on their Jeep. They “love it”, but they’re looking for something different.

Just my 2 cents but I have a feeling they’ll be old news once the real problems with them start to surface. I could be wrong though and maybe they hook up well off-road and last a long time. If it were me I’d wait another year before jumping into the Kool Aid with everyone on them and see how they pan out.







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A guy I wheel with has a set on his LJ. They hookup pretty good honestly, however my STT Pros with 30% tread left hookup just as good, and in some cases better, then the Patagonia's do, and his are brand new

wayoflife
06-14-2019, 02:18 PM
As for th cheap price, doesn't mean they are bad tire's. When Pro Comps and Iroks came out they were stupid cheap. I bought both and was quite happy with them. They have both turned out to be solid tire's in a saturated market. Why not jump on the Patagonia bad wagon? They may turn out to be the same.

Seems like those that are actually running them like them and those hating on them have zero experience with them. Go figure.

I got a chance to spend a few days with Milestar last week while we were covering the Dynatrac CODEX build. Super nice guys and I mean that. After the wheels and tires were mounted, they started to check the psi on the tires and Jim, the owner of Dynatrac says to lower them to 28 psi as that's where he prefers to run his tires. You know, because it's typically a point where they run with a better footprint and offer a better ride. Milestar responded by saying that they needed to be run at a factory psi which is about 35. They said that their tires need to be run on the crown to help keep them quite and failure to do so would cause them to cup and wear poorly. This was directly from them. Go figure.

But hey, you're money and your Jeep, you should do whatever you want with both.


You’re not going to find a US made tire that cheap because we have child labor laws here. You’re also seeing a lot of them on social media because the company is handing them out to every “influencer” for free. It’s working. Im getting tons of calls about them and even though I have access to them I outright refuse to sell them.

You are correct that everyone running them so far is pleased, but I’ll let you in on some insight. It’s extremely hard to find people who can afford to be honest about their bad decisions. What I mean by that is, most people are too proud to admit they spent their hard earned money on shit and will talk themselves and everyone around them into liking the bad decision they made. I see it all the time when people come by the shop with a shitty lift on their Jeep. They “love it”, but they’re looking for something different.

Just my 2 cents but I have a feeling they’ll be old news once the real problems with them start to surface. I could be wrong though and maybe they hook up well off-road and last a long time. If it were me I’d wait another year before jumping into the Kool Aid with everyone on them and see how they pan out.

Couldn't agree with you more Bubba.

Brute
06-14-2019, 02:54 PM
328835..................

PR44’s are overkill?...I may have to rethink my axle selections...

Torrin
06-14-2019, 05:13 PM
PR44’s are overkill?...I may have to rethink my axle selections...

Wait , whaaaaat? I wonder if I can return my PR44 if I really don't need it? :)

Torrin
06-14-2019, 05:15 PM
You are correct about getting what you pay for. The Iroks I bought when they first came out were the best off road tire I have ever ran, and they were cheap! 4 36s for $750. The Pro Comps were very good too, and cheap. Now look at their prices.

I never said this forum or any part of it was a joke!

Great Jeeper spirit you have going on there. Keep up the good work.

I guess people can't agree to disagree and be civil anymore.

Dude, you literally said: " Wayalife is a joke and you clearly don't understand the true concept of Jeeping and way of life. For you, it's a business you have built here and that is all. It's not a true community, it's a business."

Check the first post on your special thread here.

CrunchyPeanutbutter
06-16-2019, 01:34 AM
Gotta love the creative editing!

And that's part of the reason this place has the reputation it does.

Good job!

WJCO
06-16-2019, 01:43 AM
Gotta love the creative editing!

And that's part of the reason this place has the reputation it does.

Good job!

Nobody edited shit. That's why there's a record of your sorry ass douchebag post even though it was years ago. That's why you have the reputation that you do, because someone remembered your sorry ass douchebag ass. Fuck off.

bholder817
06-16-2019, 02:01 AM
All I know is it’s expensive to be cheap! Good luck with those tires!


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OverlanderJK
06-16-2019, 02:07 AM
Gotta love the creative editing!

And that's part of the reason this place has the reputation it does.

Good job!

It would show you if your post was edited retard.


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