I truely can't make up my mind: PR44 or PR60

mastrcruse · Feb 19, 2015

I always build to the possibly with my vehicles. Is it possible that I go 40's...yes...but maybe 5-7 years down the road. Is it more likely I go 37's in less than 3 years...yes.

So my first thought is save up and get the PR60. 8x6.5, standard shafts, 1350, arb, 4.88 extra caster. $8k shipped

Other possibility is PR44 unlimited, ARB, full circle clip chromoly, 4.88, extra caster, 1350. More like 4k shipped (haven't received official quote)

What I want to accomplish...not have to worry about things breaking as much as I do now with my Dana 30. I want to be able to use the skinny pedal more and have the peace of mind that I'll be pretty much okay.

Any thoughts or recommendations? Can I afford both, yes, one is easier to swallow while buying a new house ect. Any additional expenses I'm not thinking of (steering ect.)? Any option I'm not thinking of with the PR44 that would make it even better (don't want RCV's..want fuse to be more external)

Would have to upgrade wheels and get adapters for rears (8.0x6.5 to 5x5)
ATX Slabs- 2000
Tires--1500
(Minus wheels and tires I have)
Extra $2000

Maybe it's better for me to ARB and regear the stock 44 rear, do a very stout PR44 up front, and rear bumper for now and then down the road upgrade it all when it becomes a non-daily. If that's the case do I run 4.56 or 4.88 on a 3.6l auto (heavy side) with the possibilty I either stay with 35's or go to 37's?

crippledpetey · Feb 19, 2015

mastrcruse said:
I always build to the possibly with my vehicles. Is it possible that I go 40's...yes...but maybe 5-7 years down the road. Is it more likely I go 37's in less than 3 years...yes.

So my first thought is save up and get the PR60. 8x6.5, standard shafts, 1350, arb, 4.88 extra caster. $8k shipped

Other possibility is PR44 unlimited, ARB, full circle clip chromoly, 4.88, extra caster, 1350. More like 4k shipped (haven't received official quote)

What I want to accomplish...not have to worry about things breaking as much as I do now with my Dana 30. I want to be able to use the skinny pedal more and have the peace of mind that I'll be pretty much okay.

Any thoughts or recommendations? Can I afford both, yes, one is easier to swallow while buying a new house ect. Any additional expenses I'm not thinking of? Any option I'm not thinking of with the PR44 that would make it even better (don't want RCV's..want fuse to be more external)

ATX Slabs- 2000
Tires--1500
(Minus wheels and tires I have)
Extra $2000

Spend the money once. After having a PR44, PR60's and PR80 it's cheaper to spend it once. You can run 37's with a 60 and 40's with a 60.

2013rubirick · Feb 19, 2015

If you ever think you will run 40's save up and get the 60. Trust me you will regret it if not.

MarkW13 · Feb 19, 2015

I'm having the same struggle and feel like the 60 is a better way to go, but my bank account is going to hate the idea.

crippledpetey · Feb 19, 2015

MarkW13 said:
I'm having the same struggle and feel like the 60 is a better way to go, but my bank account is going to hate the idea.

It will until you wheel hard once then you won't look back.

MTG · Feb 19, 2015

So 7 years down the road you may go 40s?

PR44 front and stock rear. Worry about whether you need 60s in 3/4 of a decade.

Sharkey · Feb 19, 2015

^^Technically, he is looking at 7 years not 7.5.

:bleh:

MTG · Feb 19, 2015

Sharkey said:
^^Technically, he is looking at 7 years not 7.5.

:bleh:

Oh my bad, he should get a 60/80 then. :yep:

:crazyeyes:

crippledpetey · Feb 19, 2015

MTG said:
Oh my bad, he should get a 60/80 then. :yep:

:crazyeyes:

Why would he need 60/80? He could do the 60 housing or a hybrid now and upgrade later if 40's are in his future. I'm just saying I've bought a PR44 and it lasted all of 1 year before the PR60 was ordered. If you can save a little money and go 60 housing why not just spend that $ once. Or you can buy the pr44 run it for 5+ years and sell it for "market value" and spend more $ for the new greatest 60 or whathaveyou then. My opinion is spend the money once if possible. Doesn't have to be 12k all the bells and whistles out of the gate.

Sharkey · Feb 19, 2015

He was joking. I was busting his chops because 3/4 of a decade is 7.5 years, not 7.

LoPo · Feb 19, 2015

crippledpetey said:
Why would he need 60/80? He could do the 60 housing or a hybrid now and upgrade later if 40's are in his future. I'm just saying I've bought a PR44 and it lasted all of 1 year before the PR60 was ordered. If you can save a little money and go 60 housing why not just spend that $ once. Or you can buy the pr44 run it for 5+ years and sell it for "market value" and spend more $ for the new greatest 60 or whathaveyou then. My opinion is spend the money once if possible. Doesn't have to be 12k all the bells and whistles out of the gate.

But if he's just going to wheel the Starbucks drive through with 40's then he'll be fine with a PR44.

StrizzyChris · Feb 19, 2015

LoPo said:
But if he's just going to wheel the Starbucks drive through with 40's then he'll be fine with a stock Dana 30 with gussets.

Fixed it for ya!

jkur77 · Feb 19, 2015

I too can't make up my mind about PR 44 or PR 60, after reading this my mind is made up. I will be going with the PR 60. i'm going to be running the stock 44 in the rear. Who makes an adapter from 8x6.5 to 5x5?

Canvas JK · Feb 19, 2015

jkur77 said:
I too can't make up my mind about PR 44 or PR 60, after reading this my mind is made up. I will be going with the PR 60. i'm going to be running the stock 44 in the rear. Who makes an adapter from 8x6.5 to 5x5?

You can order the PR60 with the 5x5.5 bolt pattern. If you are planning on going to 8x6.5 it is best to both axles at once so you only have to have one set of wheels.

edit: then you can buy Strizzy's Slabs he is selling.

thardy · Feb 19, 2015

Just out of curiosity, does the decision of PR44 or PR60 differ when it comes down to the rig being a 2dr versus a 4dr? For instance, if you're going to be running 37's on a 2dr, is a PR60 overkill? Obviously there's a since of security with having the PR60 over the PR44, but does the weight difference between 2dr and 4dr make a difference in axle choice?

Sorry if this is a stupid question, just something I've wondered.

OverlanderJK · Feb 19, 2015

Canvas JK said:
You can order the PR60 with the 5x5.5 bolt pattern. If you are planning on going to 8x6.5 it is best to both axles at once so you only have to have one set of wheels.

edit: then you can buy Strizzy's Slabs he is selling.

You only need one set of wheels if you buy one axle anyway. You would need to run adapters.

thardy said:
Just out of curiosity, does the decision of PR44 or PR60 differ when it comes down to the rig being a 2dr versus a 4dr? For instance, if you're going to be running 37's on a 2dr, is a PR60 overkill? Obviously there's a since of security with having the PR60 over the PR44, but does the weight difference between 2dr and 4dr make a difference in axle choice?

Sorry if this is a stupid question, just something I've wondered.

You don't need a PR60 with 37's on a 4 door or a two door.

MTG · Feb 19, 2015

OverlanderJK said:
You don't need a PR60 with 37's on a 4 door or a two door.

Not true. Your axles will spontaneously explode if you put 37s on anything other than 60s. It's true, I read it on the innerwebs. :crazyeyes:

thardy · Feb 19, 2015

OverlanderJK said:
You don't need a PR60 with 37's on a 4 door or a two door.

That was my thought, just wasn't sure, so figured I would bring it up. Thanks!

LoPo · Feb 19, 2015

LoPo said:
But if he's just going to wheel the Starbucks drive through with 40's then he'll be fine with a PR44.

StrizzyChris said:
Fixed it for ya!

Don't forget the truss!

MTG · Feb 19, 2015

LoPo said:
Don't forget the truss!

I can't remember do you truss the bottom and only gusset the top? :thinking:

I truely can't make up my mind: PR44 or PR60

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