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jivesis
03-10-2015, 07:48 AM
Hi guys, well I'm getting a new jk and was wondering if I should get a rubi or not. My jk at the mo has 3.8, 37s, f&r e lockers and 5:13 gears.. The new one I want to run f&r lockers, evo sliders, evo 3" lift and 37s also..

So is the extra 6-7 thousand worth it? Will I need to re gear for 37s and if so will the lockers still be ok? And is the e disco good or does it limit flex to a degree? Compared to Jks quick dis? I like the idea of the Dana 44 and the rockcrawling transfer case. Or is the money better spent on two lockers, upgrade axle, gears, Jks quick discos?

pastorwug
03-10-2015, 01:05 PM
Hi guys, well I'm getting a new jk and was wondering if I should get a rubi or not. My jk at the mo has 3.8, 37s, f&r e lockers and 5:13 gears.. The new one I want to run f&r lockers, evo sliders, evo 3" lift and 37s also..

So is the extra 6-7 thousand worth it? Will I need to re gear for 37s and if so will the lockers still be ok? And is the e disco good or does it limit flex to a degree? Compared to Jks quick dis? I like the idea of the Dana 44 and the rockcrawling transfer case. Or is the money better spent on two lockers, upgrade axle, gears, Jks quick discos?

The Rubicon is well worth your money - you're going to end up spending way more in the end to duplicate what you get with the Rubicon.
I wouldn't run 37s without re-gearing unless you get a manual shift and enjoy slipping the clutch constantly.
You're pushing a Dana 30 to run 37s and do rockcrawling - though there are people who do that here. :twocents:

Canvas JK
03-10-2015, 01:13 PM
As Pastorwug stated spend now and have everything you want right off the get go. Be sure to check the gear ratio in the axles before purchasing. If it is an auto chances are high that it will come with 3.73 gears whereas the manuals will come with 4.10 gears.

By the time you purchase the gears, lockers with installation labor and new transfer case you are at the price of a Rubicon.

When I purchased my Jeep I did not know any difference and had I did a Rubicon would be sitting in my driveway instead of a Sport that I am putting money into just to get it where I want.

R/
Will

olram30
03-10-2015, 01:16 PM
Traded in my first sport for a Rubicon

RedRum
03-10-2015, 01:17 PM
I just went thru this and with the equity I had in my jeep ( after stripping all my parts and returning to stock ) only equalled a 6k difference to go from a 2dr sport 6spd with a soft top to a fairly loaded rubicon with a hard top ... The 6k was well worth it as priciest out having lockers gears and upgraded t case it was a no brainer !

Also if you want an auto with 4.10s you'll most likely have to order it like I had too ... None within 500 miles of dealership

Napalm
03-10-2015, 01:23 PM
I regret not getting a Rubicon, but I am too happy with the progress of my '14 Sport to start over.

I did get the 3.73s though.

Texas Nick
03-10-2015, 01:31 PM
i agree with everyone saying go with a Rubicon. seeing as how your aslo going to be changing some stuff out, your stock rubi parts will fetch you a little bit more change than stock sport/sahara stuff. so that will already help a little with your next upgrades like the 37s or the enforcer lift as stated.

MR.Ty
03-10-2015, 01:37 PM
Any extra $6-7k? Yikes! If that is from a dealer Id shop else where. I bought my 14 Rubicon for 3k more than a comparable Sport (Nav, cruise control etc).

Something else to consider is the resale value of the Rubicon parts.
Complete front and rear axles go from $3-4k. Wheels and tires go for $1k. And the transfer case can get you $1k as well.

If you got a good deal when youve bought it, you have already recouped money you spent and now have cash towards bigger and better things.

jknikos
03-10-2015, 01:56 PM
If i did it again i would have gone with the rubicon....:drinks:

07JKSahara
03-10-2015, 02:34 PM
If i did it again i would have gone with the rubicon....:drinks:

X2.........

MICP3309
03-10-2015, 02:34 PM
I had this same debate, and ultimately went Rubicon. the 4:1 T-case is a huge difference over the Sport. I have 37s on the 4.10 gears with manual, and have no problems with shifting, or the clutch. On hills on the interstate, I do have to shift down to 5th to maintain 70-75 mph. The e lockers work good, and the disco is outstanding. Though my E-disco motor broke, the 85$ EVO no-limits mod for the disco means i still have the same function, just turn a knob by hand; without having to worry about securing the sway bar away while riding.

Additionally I love my heated seats (was only option in rubicon or sahara) on those cooler mornings when i have no doors!

And what everyone says is absolutely true, I have 4500$ for my Axles (leaving lockers and gears in) to offset my PR60 upgrade.

The way I looked at is was, I can wheel like I want to now, with the eLockers. And 4:1 T-case when out with my friend in his sport, i can very easily crawl up and down terrane that he has troubles with as far as working the gas / brake / clutch with the sport T-case.

Hope this helped. Either way you'll definitely love the 3.6 over the 3.8!!

Reaper
03-10-2015, 02:40 PM
If i did it again i would have gone with the rubicon....:drinks:

I did it again and went with the Rubicon.....Started looking at the things i wanted to add to my sport and was wondering why i went with the sport since most of the things were in the rubicon...

8jku9
03-10-2015, 02:41 PM
Hi guys, well I'm getting a new jk and was wondering if I should get a rubi or not. My jk at the mo has 3.8, 37s, f&r e lockers and 5:13 gears.. The new one I want to run f&r lockers, evo sliders, evo 3" lift and 37s also..

So is the extra 6-7 thousand worth it? Will I need to re gear for 37s and if so will the lockers still be ok? And is the e disco good or does it limit flex to a degree? Compared to Jks quick dis? I like the idea of the Dana 44 and the rockcrawling transfer case. Or is the money better spent on two lockers, upgrade axle, gears, Jks quick discos?



It really boils down to what you plan to do with it. I know some people here that have a rubicon, and the only thing they left that was actually stock is the transfer case and electronic disco. With 37's you dont have to regear, but you might as well. The new rubicons do not come with 4.10s stock, its actually an option now, so you can always just not pay for the 4.10s and use that money towards the regear. I absolutely love my rubi, and everyone i meet that doesnt have one, regrets not getting one. ok ok so not everyone, but a majority will agree. The price difference really isnt that much.

wayoflife
03-10-2015, 03:02 PM
As others have mentioned, if you can afford it, get a Rubicon. Our first JK was a Rubicon and we loved it and when it came time to buy a second, we decided to get a bare bones X (sport) and build it up. Trust me, you don't save much if anything going this route. When the new 2012's came out, we decided to buy one and made sure to get it as a Rubicon. If needed, the axles can be sold for a pretty penny or, if you can't afford to build up right away, they do come with lockers and will allow you to have a lot of fun right out of the box. The 4:1 transfer case is something you simply cannot buy aftermarket for cheap. It is well worth the money and I can say the same about the e-disco.

Tanner505
03-10-2015, 03:05 PM
Traded in my first sport for a Rubicon

I did the exact same

xrayjeeper83
03-10-2015, 03:18 PM
If I could afford to I'd just trade mine for a rubi

RedRum
03-10-2015, 05:26 PM
As many have said looking back I wish I just went rubicon but the sport was a great practice jeep and hey hold their value so well and learning what and what not to invest in makes a big difference IMO, the people who say it's cheaper I upgrade a sport either Rent being realistic or have a great supply guy and do all of the labor themselves ( which my hats off to you ) but on the east coast finding a reputable shop and paying it's way more expensive

aermotor
03-10-2015, 06:23 PM
I bought a Sahara almost 5 years and have since upgraded to Rubi axles and new gears. Yes I don't have e-disconnect or the transfer case but it only cost me $2500 and she will play with the rest of them.

jmsuitter
03-10-2015, 06:33 PM
To Rubi or not to Rubi that is the question:to Rubi be thy solution

jivesis
03-10-2015, 07:42 PM
Ok awesome, I'll look at ordering a rubi.. So would the 4:10 in the 3.6 auto be ok for 37s due to the new motor and gear box because I needed 5:13s for the 37s in my 3.8 auto now.?

Canvas JK
03-10-2015, 07:53 PM
Ok awesome, I'll look at ordering a rubi.. So would the 4:10 in the 3.6 auto be ok for 37s due to the new motor and gear box because I needed 5:13s for the 37s in my 3.8 auto now.?

It would not be the best but will work. Here is a link to see what gears will work with the 3.6L auto or manual transmission.

http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?2180-JK-FAQ-Answers-to-the-Questions-Every-Newbie-has-about-the-JK-Wrangler&p=21019&viewfull=1#post21019

Additionally there is this write up concerning the 3.6l and regearing http://wayalife.com/content.php?225-Do-Yourself-a-Favor-Regear-Your-2012-Up-JK!!

R/
Will

RedRum
03-10-2015, 10:28 PM
I'm running 35s so I couldn't tell you but just know the gears are a 495 dollar option ... Well worth it IMO ... Right now my dealer told me they are running a 4-5 week turnover on orders but they have to say 6-8 weeks just to cover themselves

jivesis
03-11-2015, 12:12 AM
Ok well I think the re gear is the go, even in my 3.8 auto and 5:13 i still turn off od around town..

If I save the money for 5:13s and don't get the 4:10s, when I re gear at 5:13 will my factory lockers still be ok?

CharlieK
03-11-2015, 12:38 AM
If you can swing it go Rubi, I started with a Sahara and spent a ton of cash get to where I am at now. If I could do it all over I'd go Rubi. 6k does seem a little steep, I'd shop around.

8jku9
03-12-2015, 08:31 PM
Ok awesome, I'll look at ordering a rubi.. So would the 4:10 in the 3.6 auto be ok for 37s due to the new motor and gear box because I needed 5:13s for the 37s in my 3.8 auto now.?

You can always go 4.88 also.

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jivesis
03-13-2015, 04:46 AM
4:88 looks perfect just at the top of the medium wheeling range at just at the bottom of rockcrawling range

jivesis
03-14-2015, 09:50 PM
So i have final proves from dealer, 43k for sport JKU or 52k for rubi.... So is the rubi worth 9 k?

If I had the sport Id have to

Locker rear $2000
Pr 44 $7500
Sliders. $500

But still have manual swaybar and
No rock crawler transfer case..but I'd have a better front end and better lockers maybe.. Don't do much hardcore wheeling and am mechanically sympathetic when on the trails..

jivesis
03-14-2015, 09:53 PM
Going 37s so prob have to re gear either way but a few have said with the rubi 4:10 37s weren't to bad..

olram30
03-14-2015, 10:05 PM
Have you looked into any discounts? Tread lightly? I think even Sam's or Costco offers something

jivesis
03-14-2015, 10:10 PM
Here is Aus parts are pretty exie

olram30
03-14-2015, 10:11 PM
Oh, another country. Missed that part.