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Prime8
11-03-2012, 03:42 AM
My 2013 Gecko JKUR arrived at the dealership today after nearly 2 months of waiting. I had the dealer order the EVO Double D and C-gussets to install when the vehicle arrived. However, they waited till last week to place the order, so I'll be waiting another couple weeks for those parts. The dealer will be installing the lift and gussets, but they also ordered the EVO corner guards and rear tire carrier, which I will be installing. I also have a new EVO 1/4 Pounder with Stinger and 5 new 37" Nittos sitting in the garage waiting for the new rig. I will be keeping the Spyderlock beadlocks, Trektop NX, and LoD sliders from my old rig. I'll also be pulling the 1310 Coast front driveshaft and strapping it to Slimer until I can replace it with a 1350. Need to pull a couple more parts off of the current rig before trading it in, so I will be getting Slimer on Monday.

Looking forward to everyone's comment, tips, advice, etc...

Still on the truck... And Nittos!
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Linebacker
11-03-2012, 03:45 AM
You've got a sweet ride and a good plan. Best of luck.:rock:

ProfessionalDriver
11-03-2012, 03:46 AM
Congrats!!

Awesome choices! Can't wait to see it EVOlve! :rock:

Notajerryskid
11-03-2012, 01:56 PM
Congrats man!!!! Pm me if you have questions on the corner tire carrier combo and I'll shoot you my number. You are going to need to remove your hard top to install it. Love that color.

Prime8
11-03-2012, 02:41 PM
Congrats man!!!! Pm me if you have questions on the corner tire carrier combo and I'll shoot you my number. You are going to need to remove your hard top to install it. Love that color.

Sounds great brother. I spent a long time on the phone already with Andrew at EVO and Jeremy at Epic talking about the carrier and I feel a little better about it. Definitely intimidating though. Did you seal yours? Rust is a problem here so ill need to rust-proof my as best as possible.

Notajerryskid
11-03-2012, 03:17 PM
I did. Prep prep prep with the paint.

Prime8
11-03-2012, 06:46 PM
I did. Prep prep prep with the paint.

I was going to have it multi-coat liquid painted by someone in town. But what about the nutsert holes and the area between the vehicle sheet metal and the corners plate steel?

Prime8
11-06-2012, 08:12 PM
Got the new rig last night! At the dealer from 6-10 pm working out all the details... Still have to go back to do part exchanges and installs... But the new JKUR is awesome! The 3.6 motor makes a difference. Wonder how it will feel with 37" Nittos and 17" Spyderlocks...

Notajerryskid
11-06-2012, 11:07 PM
I was going to have it multi-coat liquid painted by someone in town. But what about the nutsert holes and the area between the vehicle sheet metal and the corners plate steel?

I used rattle can. flat blk.

Prime8
11-07-2012, 12:48 AM
I used rattle can. flat blk.

I was thinking of doing that, but its already 45 degrees here and dropping fast. My garage is detached and not heated, so painting myself might be a problem... Plus, I suck at spray paint. It always runs because I'm not patient enough. Haha.

GCM 2
11-07-2012, 12:57 AM
Very, very cool new ride. That is a great color for a jeep that's getting some modifications, congratulations :thumb:

Prime8
11-07-2012, 01:00 AM
Very, very cool new ride. That is a great color for a jeep that's getting some modifications, congratulations :thumb:

Thanks Greg! Had some training today and it was raining when I headed out. Plus I was in a hurry to go vote. So haven't had a good chance to take pics yet. Hopefully tomorrow...

Prime8
11-08-2012, 11:46 AM
Took a couple pictures yesterday. I got the car Monday night and it rained Tuesday, so it didn't stay clean for long.


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EVO rear corners.

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GCM 2
11-08-2012, 04:32 PM
EVO rear corners.

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Haha! Nice selection of parts there. Those are badass corners, mine are being installed right now. I got the EVO "Outlaw" corners though. You may already be ahead of the game and know of or have this item. If you are installing those corners yourself, this is really worth the purchase. Do a google or amazon search, might be able to find it cheaper and with the additional rivnuts. Definitely practice on some scrap sheet metal first to get the tool adjusted so the rivnuts are tight. Good luck, keep the photos coming


http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/MARSON-Lever-Style-Setting-Tool-4BB23

Prime8
11-08-2012, 07:37 PM
Haha! Nice selection of parts there. Those are badass corners, mine are being installed right now. I got the EVO "Outlaw" corners though. You may already be ahead of the game and know of or have this item. If you are installing those corners yourself, this is really worth the purchase. Do a google or amazon search, might be able to find it cheaper and with the additional rivnuts. Definitely practice on some scrap sheet metal first to get the tool adjusted so the rivnuts are tight. Good luck, keep the photos coming

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/MARSON-Lever-Style-Setting-Tool-4BB23

I will definitely be getting a nutsert tool, but is the $160 one REALLY that much better than the $16 one from Harbor Freight? Especially since its such an obscure tool I don't forsee using much after the corners...

MTG
11-08-2012, 07:40 PM
I will definitely be getting a nutsert tool, but is the $160 one REALLY that much better than the $16 one from Harbor Freight? Especially since its such an obscure tool I don't forsee using much after the corners...

I'd say so. I bought one from HF...scratch that...3 from HF because we kept bending them.

Edit: this was on the rock skins. Working on the rear 1/4 panel will be easier. Plus I am counting my time spent going back and forth to HF. I thought I saw one for ~$100 that looked promising, but I am not sure where.

Notajerryskid
11-08-2012, 07:55 PM
I made mine out of a bolt, socket, washers, and a nut. pics of it is on my thread. however, I would have spent the 100 on the good tool.

Prime8
11-08-2012, 08:12 PM
I made mine out of a bolt, socket, washers, and a nut. pics of it is on my thread. however, I would have spent the 100 on the good tool.

Yeah, $100 is more reasonable. I don't think I'd pay $160 though. I could buy 10 of the Harbor Freight ones before it would be worth it... Haha.

piginajeep
11-08-2012, 08:45 PM
Yeah, $100 is more reasonable. I don't think I'd pay $160 though. I could buy 10 of the Harbor Freight ones before it would be worth it... Haha.

I would make sure you get a good tool for the rear quaters, Its very important for the strength of that carrier to have all the nutsert installed properly.

I installed mine at home with the HF, I would spend $300 on the right tool if I could do it all over again.

Prime8
11-08-2012, 09:50 PM
I would make sure you get a good tool for the rear quaters, Its very important for the strength of that carrier to have all the nutsert installed properly.

I installed mine at home with the HF, I would spend $300 on the right tool if I could do it all over again.

Good advice, thanks Chris.

Prime8
11-08-2012, 10:02 PM
Does anyone have the nice Grainger one I could borrow? I'd be happy to pay shipping both ways...

GCM 2
11-09-2012, 03:34 AM
Does anyone have the nice Grainger one I could borrow? I'd be happy to pay shipping both ways...

Check this thread for someone around you, seems a few guys have bought the Marson. Also there are other models listed.

http://www.jk-forum.com/jk-talk-26/best-rivnut-nutsert-tool-money-249040/


btw, here's my JK at the shop getting skinned. ;)

Prime8
11-09-2012, 04:29 AM
Haha damn you and your proximity to EVO!!!!!! Haha, this install has intimidated the hell out of me...

Prime8
11-09-2012, 04:30 AM
Check this thread for someone around you, seems a few guys have bought the Marson. Also there are other models listed.

http://www.jk-forum.com/jk-talk-26/best-rivnut-nutsert-tool-money-249040/

btw, here's my JK at the shop getting skinned. ;)

But also, thanks for the heads up! Haha.

GCM 2
11-09-2012, 05:00 AM
But also, thanks for the heads up! Haha.

You are welcome. Don't let the install give you anxiety! Off Road evolution is doing this install for me, but I have done my trans cooler mounting points on this JK, armor on my TJ, snorkels on Land Rovers, non-skid deck and armor on HMMWV's...... I have used the cheap ass tool that comes with a purchase of a part and I have used the $1000 plus dollar tool in the attached photo below (basically the same kind EVO uses). The cheap tools that use open end/box end wrenches as part of the equation to set the rivnut, stay the hell away from these! The ultra high end pneumatic pro guns, a one year old could do the rivnut install If the gun is set up. The Marson (or like item) much like the pro's gun is all about the set up and practice on the same thickness of sheet metal prior to the actual event. Get the tool set up right, one maybe two practice installs of the rivnuts and you will have an "aha!" moment. Place some painters tape where the pilot holes will go for the rivnuts (see photo of EVO doing my rock skins, you can see the blue tape), get some big C-clamps or the huge C style vise grips to clamp the skin in place while you do the pilot holes or mark the pilot holes. Remember practice with the tool set up properly. It's easy!

wayoflife
11-09-2012, 06:17 AM
Check this thread for someone around you, seems a few guys have bought the Marson. Also there are other models listed.

http://www.jk-forum.com/jk-talk-26/best-rivnut-nutsert-tool-money-249040/


btw, here's my JK at the shop getting skinned. ;)

oh man, can't wait to see it once it's all done :thumb:

Prime8
11-09-2012, 12:20 PM
Greg, what's the painters tape for? Just to have a surface you can mark on for hole locations?

Also, any ideas on how to seal these to the body? Living in Illinois, rust is an issue, and therefore I dont want an open gap between the corners and the body. Any recommendations?
Doesn't Poison Spyder sell rubber sheet to put between the body and the corners? Will that be sufficient?

GCM 2
11-09-2012, 03:57 PM
Greg, what's the painters tape for? Just to have a surface you can mark on for hole locations?

Also, any ideas on how to seal these to the body? Living in Illinois, rust is an issue, and therefore I dont want an open gap between the corners and the body. Any recommendations?
Doesn't Poison Spyder sell rubber sheet to put between the body and the corners? Will that be sufficient?

The painters tape is for marking the surface and to keep from tearing up the painted surface. As for rust proofing, prior to installing rivnuts, clean, primer and touch up with paint all the raw metal hole edges. You could always apply a nice wide bead of silicone at or near the edges of the new metal skin.

MTG
11-09-2012, 04:06 PM
The painters tape is for marking the surface and to keep from tearing up the painted surface. As for rust proofing, prior to installing rivnuts, clean, primer and touch up with paint all the raw metal hole edges. You could always apply a nice wide bead of silicone at or near the edges of the new metal skin.

On my rock skins I found that on some holes the rivnut would scrape the new paint away when inserted. So I put a bead of silicon around the entire edge of the skin. Of course this doesn't prevent it from rusting from the inside (I don't think that would be a problem on the rear 1/4 panel), so I hit the rivnut with silicon too before inserting it into the hole. Between the paint and two layers of silicon there it not much else you can do.

Prime8
11-10-2012, 10:55 PM
HELP!!! I can't get my bumper on! The 1/4 Pounder, besides having lackluster install directions, missed a key component to the install... This silver canister on the driver side of the vehicle sits too low and the bottom edge of the bumper hits it when attempting to slide it on. Therefore, the bumper will not fully seat on the frame rails, it needs to slide back another 0.5-1". What is this canister and how/where can I move it?


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GCM 2
11-10-2012, 11:31 PM
That's the vacuum assist canister, unfortunately you are going to need the relocate kit for that. EVO makes one and a couple of other mfg's

Prime8
11-11-2012, 12:17 AM
That's the vacuum assist canister, unfortunately you are going to need the relocate kit for that. EVO makes one and a couple of other mfg's

Shit. So that's my only option? Gonna have to strap the stock one back on then...

MTG
11-11-2012, 12:32 AM
Shit. So that's my only option? Gonna have to strap the stock one back on then...

Yes it has to be moved. You also know you have to cut the bottom bar off your stock bumper right?

Prime8
11-11-2012, 02:06 AM
Yes it has to be moved. You also know you have to cut the bottom bar off your stock bumper right?

Yes. That's already gone. Otherwise I wouldnt have gotten the bumper on far enough to hit the canister! Haha. I thought I had been doing my due diligence by having Chris email me the install directions ahead of time so I could have all my ducks in a row for a smooth install. But the canister isn't mentioned in the directions...

MTG
11-11-2012, 03:24 AM
Yes. That's already gone. Otherwise I wouldnt have gotten the bumper on far enough to hit the canister! Haha. I thought I had been doing my due diligence by having Chris email me the install directions ahead of time so I could have all my ducks in a row for a smooth install. But the canister isn't mentioned in the directions...

I see that now. Here's something else I don't think is in the instructions...I think you are installing the stinger too so put the bumper on so it's resting on the horns. Take 4 of the bolts and run them from the inside out though the spacer plates and your bumper horns (i.e. they are now installed backwards). Then take the stinger and hang it on these bolts. Then use the remaining bolts to push these bolts back out from the front (don't forget the washers). This leaves the second set of bolts installed the correct direction and ready to install the nuts.

Hopefully that makes sense. Trust me it is so much easier than trying to gets the bolts in from the front. Or using tape to secure the spacer plates.

Good luck!

Notajerryskid
11-11-2012, 03:56 AM
Something else not in the instructions is how to deal with all the panties that will be thrown at you with this on the front of your jeep. :D

MTG
11-11-2012, 04:45 AM
Something else not in the instructions is how to deal with all the panties that will be thrown at you with this on the front of your jeep. :D

Yeah. That can be a problem. But you learn to deal. ;)

Prime8
11-11-2012, 05:11 AM
I see that now. Here's something else I don't think is in the instructions...I think you are installing the stinger too so put the bumper on so it's resting on the horns. Take 4 of the bolts and run them from the inside out though the spacer plates and your bumper horns (i.e. they are now installed backwards). Then take the stinger and hang it on these bolts. Then use the remaining bolts to push these bolts back out from the front (don't forget the washers). This leaves the second set of bolts installed the correct direction and ready to install the nuts.

Hopefully that makes sense. Trust me it is so much easier than trying to gets the bolts in from the front. Or using tape to secure the spacer plates.

Good luck!

Great tip, thanks brother!

Prime8
11-11-2012, 05:12 AM
Something else not in the instructions is how to deal with all the panties that will be thrown at you with this on the front of your jeep. :D

Haha, my wife isn't going to like that..

Prime8
11-11-2012, 09:44 PM
Another road block... This 1/4 Pounder install is a nightmare...

In order to be ready for full install once the vacuum relocation kit arrives, I decided to go out and get the sway bar disconnect motor relocated. Taped up my bit at 1/2" just like the directions said, and bored out the hole. Tried to thread in the bolt and it wouldn't grip the ~0.5mm left I'm the hole. So I trimmed it a little more. Still wouldn't grip. The third time it ate right through and bored the hole out completely. So now what...? Had to put the motor back in its original location since it wouldn't have held without any threading...

This install is quickly becoming a huge hassle, I hope the rear carrier doesn't have as many hiccups.



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MTG
11-11-2012, 10:51 PM
Another road block... This 1/4 Pounder install is a nightmare...

In order to be ready for full install once the vacuum relocation kit arrives, I decided to go out and get the sway bar disconnect motor relocated. Taped up my bit at 1/2" just like the directions said, and bored out the hole. Tried to thread in the bolt and it wouldn't grip the ~0.5mm left I'm the hole. So I trimmed it a little more. Still wouldn't grip. The third time it ate right through and bored the hole out completely. So now what...? Had to put the motor back in its original location since it wouldn't have held without any threading...

This install is quickly becoming a huge hassle, I hope the rear carrier doesn't have as many hiccups.

<img src="http://wayalife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6841"/>

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I'm not in front of my jeep but from memory that doesn't look like the spot I drilled. Can you take a pic a little further away?

Prime8
11-11-2012, 11:23 PM
I'm inside now. Couldn't take the pictures from farther away since the tire is there... Thats the only hole it could be, considering the really dark pictures in the install instructions. I even had to swing back the rubber isolator to be horizontal, not vertical, since making it vertical like it was wasn't possible. If I would have left the isolator in its original location, the bolt hole would have been 1-1.5 inch away from lining up, since the motor hits the bottom of the radiator. More detailed pictures would have been beneficial, but I'm pretty sure I drilled the right part. But the motor relocation is a poor design, since it requires a PERFECT drilling of the hole.

MTG
11-12-2012, 03:47 AM
Still think you are in the wrong hole (or I am). ;)

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Looking down.

Both taken from the passenger side looking toward driver.

Prime8
11-12-2012, 11:52 AM
Still think you are in the wrong hole (or I am). ;)

<img src="http://wayalife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6900"/>
From the bottom.

<img src="http://wayalife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6902"/>
Looking down.

Both taken from the passenger side looking toward driver.

Oh, I see where you drilled. I drilled the next hole up, you can see it in your second pic, near the top of the motor next to that electrical tiedown bracket. The directions didn't say to remove any additional bolts besides the initial one that goes through the isolator, so I didn't even consider your location. What is the reason for boring out the hole 1/2" deep in your location? I'll give EVO a call today and straighten this all out...

Prime8
11-12-2012, 12:03 PM
Yup, you're right, wrong hole. Brought up the install PDF on my phone, and while the picture is still ridiculously dark, its a little lighter than the printout. I will try drilling that new hole in the next day or two... Thanks!

Prime8
11-18-2012, 12:09 AM
Got the 1/4 Pounder with stinger installed! After that, I started doing the test fit of my rockskins and tire carrier. Need some tips on getting the corner, especially the bottom corner, of the rockskins flush against the body... In the picture below you can see I can comfortably fit my fingers between the body and the skins...



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Notajerryskid
11-18-2012, 01:00 AM
They will not fit flush. They are more square than the body.

Prime8
11-18-2012, 01:03 AM
They will not fit flush. They are more square than the body.

Yeah, I know the corners will have room vertically, but the issue is that the top will get flush with the body, but the bottom isn't even close, as shown by my fingers. When you look at the rear of the vehicle, at the edge of the skins, the skins are angled. The bottom needs to slide in more. I don't want to mark and drill the holes till I'm sure they are lined up perfectly. Only get one chance with this. Measure twice, drill once. Haha.

White_JKU
11-18-2012, 11:43 AM
Great thread!! looking forward to the results!!! Im scared to death to even think about installing rear quarter skins!!!

I had to have a few drinks just to trim my fenders!

Prime8
11-19-2012, 03:34 AM
Got the holes drilled and over half of the nutserts in today for the EVO rockskins... Then wore out the nutsert tool. Tried using the "tool" EVO included, but it is worthless. The nutsert just spins in the hole... Headed to harbor freight tomorrow to get 2 more nutsert tools, just in case! But then it will probably be a couple weeks until I can test fit the skins and drill the holes for the tire carrier. Then a couple weeks at paint. This is gonna take a while!


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my_jk
11-20-2012, 03:48 PM
looking good. :thumb:

Prime8
12-11-2012, 01:40 AM
Finally got the EVO carrier and skins to the powdercoater today. The test fit was a huge ordeal spanning 3-4 days over a months time...
Now the question I've got for all you californians that know nothing about corrosion... Haha.

When the parts get back from powder coat and I am performing final assembly, should I use teflon tape, anti seize, or something else on the threads of the nutsert bolts to keep water and corrosion out?

FoxC
12-11-2012, 04:11 AM
I used silicon and lined the inside of the skins following the contour about 2"'s from the edge. Also used the silcon on each nutsert to try and seal the bare metal after drilling.

Prime8
12-11-2012, 01:33 PM
I used silicon and lined the inside of the skins following the contour about 2"'s from the edge. Also used the silcon on each nutsert to try and seal the bare metal after drilling.

Yeah, I smeared the nutserts with black silicone before inserting. I was talking about the bolts that go in the nutserts.

Prime8
12-20-2012, 07:26 PM
More pics to follow... Just wanted to shoot this one out now since I just got it back with the Double D lift and the 37" Nitto Trail Grapplers.

Prime8
12-20-2012, 07:27 PM
Awww yeah...

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10frank9
12-20-2012, 08:14 PM
Awww yeah...

<img src="http://wayalife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9664"/>

Looks good. Now you've got to change your avatar picture.

Prime8
12-20-2012, 09:22 PM
Looks good. Now you've got to change your avatar picture.

Yeah, I know... The dealer still has my old one. I should park them side by side...

ProfessionalDriver
12-20-2012, 09:47 PM
Awww yeah...

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Looks great!!! Gecko is such an awesome color! :yup:

GCM 2
12-20-2012, 10:03 PM
The JK is looking nice!

JKRay
12-20-2012, 10:41 PM
Its looking good, I love the color! :rock:

FoxC
12-21-2012, 01:37 AM
You can call it the Hulk! Its looking bad ass!:rock:

Prime8
12-21-2012, 12:58 PM
And only a couple hours later, it looked like this...


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Prime8
12-22-2012, 12:16 AM
Another lot-shot

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Prime8
12-22-2012, 12:18 AM
Introduced the new rig to the old rig today... Needless to say, Mtn was jealous of Slimer.

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JKRay
12-22-2012, 01:52 AM
Dang it looks good, your new one looks so much badder!

Notajerryskid
12-22-2012, 02:12 AM
Looks Great!! Now Post up the pic's of the tire carrier!! :friends:

Prime8
12-22-2012, 03:50 AM
Looks Great!! Now Post up the pic's of the tire carrier!! :friends:

Haha, wouldn't have made it through the carrier without you! But, its still at the powder coaters. They finished it today, but they are about an hour away. Won't be able to get it till next Thursday and then I'll be installing it next Friday. Hopefully I'll get my LoD sliders installed soon too. It's a little taller than the last one and I need to get some weight on it!

KCTW
12-22-2012, 06:21 PM
The Jeep looks awesome. Those wheels have always been my favorite. :rock:

Prime8
12-24-2012, 03:27 AM
When you get their front bumper w/stinger, rear carrier with rockskins, long arm lift, axle reinforcements, and various bracketry, EVO throws you a couple bones once in a while...
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Prime8
12-24-2012, 09:55 PM
Prepping all the holes for more snow fall before the carrier can get installed... My whole car is coated in damn salt... AZ uses cinders. These Illinois people need to get a clue.


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Prime8
12-29-2012, 03:54 PM
It takes a little bit of elbow grease and a crowbar to get the carrier bracket bolts tightened...

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Prime8
12-29-2012, 03:58 PM
Driver side tail light wiring.

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Passenger side tail light wiring.

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Keep watching, I'll post up which colors go where when I get the chance. Driver and passenger sides are different....

MTG
12-29-2012, 04:20 PM
All that time to prep the skins themselves and the holes, but you use black electrical tape for your wire connections? :thinking:

Come on man! Go get yourself some shrink wrap weatherproof electrical connectors!

GCM 2
12-29-2012, 04:58 PM
All that time to prep the skins themselves and the holes, but you use black electrical tape for your wire connections? :thinking:

Come on man! Go get yourself some shrink wrap weatherproof electrical connectors!

Whoa, whoa, whoa there mister fancy britches! Go easy on Prime8 here.....just because a man assembles a Barbie play town home successfully does not make him a rocket surgeon :bleh: (I saw your other thread Mike!)

MTG
12-29-2012, 05:28 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa there mister fancy britches! Go easy on Prime8 here.....just because a man assembles a Barbie play town home successfully does not make him a rocket surgeon :bleh: (I saw your other thread Mike!)

Oh I beg to differ mi amigo. You know how hard that stuff is to put together? In fact, this morning I had a few more play mobile and polly pocket sets to assemble. I think I'm more than qualified. :idontknow:

Prime8
12-30-2012, 12:33 AM
All that time to prep the skins themselves and the holes, but you use black electrical tape for your wire connections? :thinking:

Come on man! Go get yourself some shrink wrap weatherproof electrical connectors!

Haha, I bought a torch with a soldering tip, solder, and shrink wrap, but I was far too sick of this install by then.

Prime8
12-30-2012, 12:35 AM
Finally! It's a bitch to open and close, and getting the spare off/on would probably take an hour and two people, but its on!

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wayoflife
12-30-2012, 01:45 AM
Finally! It's a bitch to open and close, and getting the spare off/on would probably take an hour and two people, but its on!

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Wow!! Looks great!! :thumb:

I will have to say that my little Cindy can open and close ours on Moby and without any problems. Perhaps you need to do some fine tuning. As far as getting the spare off goes, I think an hour with two people is a bit of an exaggeration. I can do it by myself in about 5 min and that includes removing the mounting plate. Of course, getting it back on does require at least one other person (I'm a small guy and lifting a 200 lb 40" tire is a little awkward) but, with the extra help, I can get it back on in about the same amount of time. I can do a 37 all by myself :yup:

Prime8
12-30-2012, 02:54 AM
Wow!! Looks great!! :thumb:

I will have to say that my little Cindy can open and close ours on Moby and without any problems. Perhaps you need to do some fine tuning. As far as getting the spare off goes, I think an hour with two people is a bit of an exaggeration. I can do it by myself in about 5 min and that includes removing the mounting plate. Of course, getting it back on does require at least one other person (I'm a small guy and lifting a 200 lb 40" tire is a little awkward) but, with the extra help, I can get it back on in about the same amount of time. I can do a 37 all by myself :yup:

Thanks! Haha, I'm 5'11" and 187 pounds. I have been lifting for 8 years and have competed in two bodybuilding competitions while in phoenix. I don't have a problem with weight, but the awkwardness of the tire, combined with the height of the mount makes for a challenging lift... I ended up using some 4x4s and my floor jack. And tightening the lugs with spyderlocks and the carrier in the way was a bit of a challenge also.

I tried playing with the johnny joint length as much as possible (about an hour and a half) but the carrier wasn't square to begin with. If you were to lay the carrier down on the four threaded tube sections, only 3 touched the ground. So any further suggestions would be appreciated.

Here's the drivers side lower hole with the other three pinned down...


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wayoflife
12-30-2012, 03:06 AM
Thanks! Haha, I'm 5'11" and 187 pounds. I have been lifting for 8 years and have competed in two bodybuilding competitions while in phoenix. I don't have a problem with weight, but the awkwardness of the tire, combined with the height of the mount makes for a challenging lift... I ended up using some 4x4s and my floor jack. And tightening the lugs with spyderlocks and the carrier in the way was a bit of a challenge also.

I tried playing with the johnny joint length as much as possible (about an hour and a half) but the carrier wasn't square to begin with. If you were to lay the carrier down on the four threaded tube sections, only 3 touched the ground. So any further suggestions would be appreciated.

Here's the drivers side lower hole with the other three pinned down...


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Well, I'm only 5'-6" and about 170 lbs. I'm getting old, my joints hurt and probably not as in good of shape as I could be but, I can assure you that I can still install a 37" Nitto Trail Grappler mounted on an ATX Slab beadlock wheel in minutes. It's all about technique - not brute strength.

As far as adjustments go, I don't know what to tell you. When we first installed our tire carrier, it was so dead on that it rattled. I purposefully had to misalign it so that it would have a tighter fit and not rattle.

catahoula
12-30-2012, 03:19 AM
Finally! It's a bitch to open and close, and getting the spare off/on would probably take an hour and two people, but its on!

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Very nice Prime8!:rock:

Prime8
12-30-2012, 06:13 AM
Well, I'm only 5'-6" and about 170 lbs. I'm getting old, my joints hurt and probably not as in good of shape as I could be but, I can assure you that I can still install a 37" Nitto Trail Grappler mounted on an ATX Slab beadlock wheel in minutes. It's all about technique - not brute strength.

As far as adjustments go, I don't know what to tell you. When we first installed our tire carrier, it was so dead on that it rattled. I purposefully had to misalign it so that it would have a tighter fit and not rattle.

Wow! Fitment was one of the main issues with this carrier when I was researching it. Overall I'm happy with it, don't get me wrong. It was just a HUGE pain in the ass getting it installed by myself. Did you have ORE install yours, Eddie?

Prime8
12-30-2012, 06:16 AM
Very nice Prime8!:rock:

Thanks! The end results is very pretty. Have some more caulking to do, some adjustments to try and get better fitment, and when the reverse light fix comes out from EVO I will be soldering and shrink wrapping the tail light connections, but otherwise its good to go!

wayoflife
12-30-2012, 06:17 AM
Wow! Fitment was one of the main issues with this carrier when I was researching it. Overall I'm happy with it, don't get me wrong. It was just a HUGE pain in the ass getting it installed by myself. Did you have ORE install yours, Eddie?

Yup, sure did and they did a great job. :yup:

I installed my own spare without any help.

wayoflife
12-30-2012, 06:28 AM
BTW, are you trying to make adjustments with the spare on? If so, that's probably why you're having such a hard time with it. When I was trying to purposefully misalign it to create a tighter fit, I removed the spare.

Notajerryskid
12-30-2012, 02:26 PM
I have mine miss aligned also. This carrier is a pain to install. But after having it on, and seeing the abuse it took in Moab. I would redo it again.

You got lucky with the shirt. I bought front bumper/ stinger, rock skins, side rails, rear tire carrier all at the same time and all I got was a smile and a bill. :) They did say thank you. ;)

Prime8
12-30-2012, 02:49 PM
I have mine miss aligned also. This carrier is a pain to install. But after having it on, and seeing the abuse it took in Moab. I would redo it again.

You got lucky with the shirt. I bought front bumper/ stinger, rock skins, side rails, rear tire carrier all at the same time and all I got was a smile and a bill. :) They did say thank you. ;)

Well see, there's your problem... They put the tees in with the Double D lift. Chris knew I was waiting not-so-patiently for the lift to be made, since they make their stuff in batches. So he sent them as a "thank you" for waiting. I wasn't expecting anything for waiting, as I understand manufacturing priorities are always evolving, but it was a very nice gesture on their part.

Prime8
12-30-2012, 02:54 PM
BTW, are you trying to make adjustments with the spare on? If so, that's probably why you're having such a hard time with it. When I was trying to purposefully misalign it to create a tighter fit, I removed the spare.

If I had been closer than a couple thousand miles I would have had them install it, since they can probably install them in their sleep by now! Haha.

All the adjustments were done without the spare on. I can't even imagine trying to pull out the joints on the bolted side for adjustment while supporting the weight of the carrier AND the spare! I think I'd get another hernia! My forearms are gassed as it is.

Prime8
01-06-2013, 02:09 AM
Spent 2 hours silicone sealing the top of my rockskins. The DAP Alex 230 black caulk I used the first time shrunk when curing and pulled away from the skins. So this time I used the real black silicone, the kind you can make gaskets with that costs $15 a tube and reeks like vinegar... Except that the nozzle sealed shut and wouldn't open... Haha. So in my attempts to muscle the silicone out by squeezing the caulking gun handle harder and harder, the top of the tube cracked and a TON of the silicone poured out... So then I had to grab a paint brush to apply it... Took forever! I hope to trim my pinch seams and remove my stock rear bumper tomorrow, so nothing major.

grizzlycountry
01-06-2013, 02:28 AM
Another lot-shot

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AWESOME RIG!! GREAT COLOR!! :thumb:

Prime8
01-08-2013, 12:00 PM
Thanks! Anyone have an opinion on shock boots? Eddie? I live in a cold climate that gets heavily salted in the winter and there is a lot of mud in the warmer months. Are shock boots a good or bad idea? Also, with the Double D kit, is it normal to install the front bilstein 5100s upside-down???

MTG
01-08-2013, 01:27 PM
Thanks! Anyone have an opinion on shock boots? Eddie? I live in a cold climate that gets heavily salted in the winter and there is a lot of mud in the warmer months. Are shock boots a good or bad idea?

If you decide to get them...get some like these.


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OverlanderJK
01-08-2013, 03:24 PM
I ran shock boots in upstate NY with no problems. But its not necessary.

Prime8
01-08-2013, 03:26 PM
If you decide to get them...get some like these.

<img src="http://wayalife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11607"/>

Haha, why, because of the color? They came with black ones that the dealer installed while doing the lift. Just wondering if I should cut them off...

catahoula
01-08-2013, 09:29 PM
I think there is mixed opinions. I ran boots on rancho 5000's a few years back in Nebraska I believe they had weep holes n crap would still get in there. The green ones are kinda cute though!

GCM 2
01-08-2013, 11:59 PM
I have had more lifts with shock boots than without, Rancho, Superlift, Skyjacker, fabtech, old man emu, and one more I think. Nothing wrong with boots, but like catahoula says, crap will get in there. Run them if you like the look of them, but I don't think they do the job of sealing off the elements like you would want, at least not over the long term.

Prime8
01-09-2013, 01:08 AM
I have had more lifts with shock boots than without, Rancho, Superlift, Skyjacker, fabtech, old man emu, and one more I think. Nothing wrong with boots, but like catahoula says, crap will get in there. Run them if you like the look of them, but I don't think they do the job of sealing off the elements like you would want, at least not over the long term.

Well, the issues here are with mud and salt (man I miss phoenix...). On one hand, the boot will keep out the elements to a degree. On the other hand, once the elements get in, the boot will trap them in... The problem with the bilsteins EVO sent with the lift is that they mount upside down. So the interface where the shaft enters the cylinder could pool liquids and make it easier to have weeping into the cylinder...

Sharkey
01-09-2013, 02:37 AM
We used to cut small holes in the bottom of the boot.

MTG
01-09-2013, 02:44 AM
Haha, why, because of the color? They came with black ones that the dealer installed while doing the lift. Just wondering if I should cut them off...

Of course because of the color! :thumb: "You gots to co-ordinate!"

If it were me I'd probably skip the boots and make sure to wash the Jeep often. :thumb:

Prime8
01-09-2013, 11:53 AM
Of course because of the color! :thumb: "You gots to co-ordinate!"

If it were me I'd probably skip the boots and make sure to wash the Jeep often. :thumb:

Yeah, I'm trying to find a good carwash in town. There is an older guy at work that keeps his truck IMMACULATE all months of the year. I picked his brain a while yesterday... But the carwash he uses is about 20 mins from my house. He does it all at one of those do-it-yourself stalls. He said NEVER use the brush. If you have to, bring your own microfiber sponge for scrubbing. But he swears by just using the powerwasher. He uses the prewash setting, then the wash, then the wax (even I'm the wheel wells and undercarriage). He then dries it with some microfiber shammies from Griot's Garage. He doesn't wipe down the wheel wells though, because the wax helps keep salt off and makes future cleaning easier.

On a side note, I will be posting a guide to the tail light wiring soon, to aid MTG and anyone else in wiring their new tail lights.

Prime8
01-09-2013, 04:55 PM
Trying to decide between the Poison Spyder BFH rear bumper or just the EVO D-shackle adapters for the frame rails. Any opinions or advice from anyone about the advantages/disadvantages of one setup over the other?

biggy
01-09-2013, 05:04 PM
Waiting for my evo carrier to show up. When it does im going bumperless with evo shackles. Carrier and skins weigh in at 150+ lbs so no bumper will save some weight. Plus it looks badass.

LoPo
01-09-2013, 05:09 PM
Trying to decide between the Poison Spyder BFH rear bumper or just the EVO D-shackle adapters for the frame rails. Any opinions or advice from anyone about the advantages/disadvantages of one setup over the other?

Having some sort of bumper will give your tub some protection if you drop off a rock/step and smack it. I've come really close to smacking myself. I run EVO tire carrier and EVO d-rings. I'm going to go with the PSC BFH in the future once I figure out a solution for my hitch mounted Mountain bike rack.

Prime8
01-09-2013, 05:53 PM
Having some sort of bumper will give your tub some protection if you drop off a rock/step and smack it. I've come really close to smacking myself. I run EVO tire carrier and EVO d-rings. I'm going to go with the PSC BFH in the future once I figure out a solution for my hitch mounted Mountain bike rack.

Oh yeah, forgot about the hitch... That has to be removed for the BFH I take it?

GCM 2
01-09-2013, 07:09 PM
Oh yeah, forgot about the hitch... That has to be removed for the BFH I take it?

I had the PSC BFH rear bumper, never mounted it because the amount of extra fab work needed to be done with my EVO Lever rear suspension. I had bought the bumper prior to my EVO build and never realized it would not work. That bumper is actually an awesome piece of minimalist kit, not much to it at all! Not sure how he will mount the hitch back to the crossmember, since quite a bit gets cut away.

Notajerryskid
01-09-2013, 07:10 PM
Look at my EVO shackles on my thread. I was disappointed that they did not even come close to being flush with the frame ends. also had to gring out some of the frame to make the shackles able to work. :thinking:

GCM 2
01-09-2013, 07:21 PM
Look at my EVO shackles on my thread. I was disappointed that they did not even come close to being flush with the frame ends. also had to gring out some of the frame to make the shackles able to work. :thinking:

Actually that is pretty common. The frame horns lengths on every jeep actually do differ in length believe it or not. I barely had to trim any frame at all, but I have seen a few people trim well over an inch on each side.

LoPo
01-09-2013, 07:49 PM
Oh yeah, forgot about the hitch... That has to be removed for the BFH I take it?

Yes, you cut your frame and crossmember at an angle. You can see the templates on page 4/5 in the instructions here: http://poisonspyder.com/assets/install_instructions/PSC-INST-BFHREAR-JK.pdf

That's why you lose your hitch, once I figure a way to transport my mountain bike, I'm going this route.


Actually that is pretty common. The frame horns lengths on every jeep actually do differ in length believe it or not. I barely had to trim any frame at all, but I have seen a few people trim well over an inch on each side.

yeah I didn't bother trimming mine, I think I have about 1/3 of an inch of frame rail, doesn't bother me or interfere.

Prime8
01-09-2013, 08:46 PM
I had the PSC BFH rear bumper, never mounted it because the amount of extra fab work needed to be done with my EVO Lever rear suspension. I had bought the bumper prior to my EVO build and never realized it would not work. That bumper is actually an awesome piece of minimalist kit, not much to it at all! Not sure how he will mount the hitch back to the crossmember, since quite a bit gets cut away.

So if I ever plan on the EVO lever, this bumper would interfere? Do you still have the BFH hanging around...? Want to get rid of it to a good home? Haha.

GCM 2
01-09-2013, 09:05 PM
So if I ever plan on the EVO lever, this bumper would interfere? Do you still have the BFH hanging around...? Want to get rid of it to a good home? Haha.

Actually the EVO lever's rear point of attachment is so close to the part of the rear crossmember that gets cut away to make room for that bumper, that I was not comfortable trying to fab something up to make both work. It can be done though, Larry McRae (PSC Owner) ran that bumper and an EVO lever on his JKOH rig. I spoke with him about what he did to accomplish it, but I still went the route of going bumperless with EVO d-rings instead. I gifted the bumper about a year ago to a distant relative who is a JK owner, sorry Prime.

Prime8
01-10-2013, 01:46 AM
Actually the EVO lever's rear point of attachment is so close to the part of the rear crossmember that gets cut away to make room for that bumper, that I was not comfortable trying to fab something up to make both work. It can be done though, Larry McRae (PSC Owner) ran that bumper and an EVO lever on his JKOH rig. I spoke with him about what he did to accomplish it, but I still went the route of going bumperless with EVO d-rings instead. I gifted the bumper about a year ago to a distant relative who is a JK owner, sorry Prime.

Haha, no problem. Thanks for the advice. Based on the amount of wheeling I am able to do, the bolt on coilovers are in my future plans but I'm not sure I could justify the lever system.

Prime8
01-10-2013, 08:57 PM
Is this legit?

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This isn't the best picture, but its raining outside so it'll do for now...
Should the johnny joints be as straight up and down as possible, or is it ok for them to be leaning/tilted at an angle? Most of mine seem to be tilted, but if they dialed in the length of the long arms correctly at install, I'm wondering if trying to straighten these will change the length of the arms unfavorably.

I am also experiencing some "crunching" noises, mostly in the front, when I go off a steep curb and the vehicle tilts. I'm thinking its the EVO plush coils. Is that normal?

GCM 2
01-10-2013, 09:09 PM
Is this legit?

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This isn't the best picture, but its raining outside so it'll do for now...
Should the johnny joints be as straight up and down as possible, or is it ok for them to be leaning/tilted at an angle? Most of mine seem to be tilted, but if they dialed in the length of the long arms correctly at install, I'm wondering if trying to straighten these will change the length of the arms unfavorably.

I am also experiencing some "crunching" noises, mostly in the front, when I go off a steep curb and the vehicle tilts. I'm thinking its the EVO plush coils. Is that normal?

My Johnny Joints have always had a slight tilt/cant just like that. This is not a problem. As for the ''crunching'' noises, well I hope that is nothing serious, maybe it is the coils seating in their buckets???

Edit: I was going to ask about the lack of front driveshaft, but I see your other thread. That sucks man, hopefully someone will buy that Coast 1310 soon.

Prime8
01-11-2013, 12:32 AM
My Johnny Joints have always had a slight tilt/cant just like that. This is not a problem. As for the ''crunching'' noises, well I hope that is nothing serious, maybe it is the coils seating in their buckets???

Edit: I was going to ask about the lack of front driveshaft, but I see your other thread. That sucks man, hopefully someone will buy that Coast 1310 soon.

Speak of the devil... Front 1350 arrived today!


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Prime8
01-11-2013, 12:33 AM
Still need advice about the "crunching". Eddie?!?! You there?!?!

GCM 2
01-11-2013, 12:37 AM
Speak of the devil... Front 1350 arrived today!

That is a sweet sight!

Prime8
01-11-2013, 12:53 AM
That is a sweet sight!

Haha, yes it is... Especially since the other day I took off my front yoke so i could package it up and send to the guy buying it. Didn't realize, with my minimal vehicle knowledge, that the yoke retained the diff oil... Luckily, I took it into the dealership the next morning to have the gussets and LCA skids welded on (the jeep mechanic at the dealership is actually REALLY good, and a jeeper himself). That's when the mechanic told me how lucky I was that I didn't destroy the front diff... That was a HUGE cost averted... Taking it back tomorrow to have him install the front shaft because I'm worried to destroy the crush sleeve if I do it myself. Want him to figure out the "crunching" too. It is every time the vehicle leans to one side or another, like turning out of a slanted driveway...

Prime8
01-11-2013, 02:09 AM
Eddie! Help! (Please)

MTG
01-11-2013, 02:25 AM
Did you check the springs as above?

I'd check your sway bar endlinks for creeking when you move them. Mine did it and it took forever to find. Also look for a bound bushing. Maybe loosen them all up and rock the jeep side to side?

Prime8
01-11-2013, 02:33 AM
Did you check the springs as above?

I'd check your sway bar endlinks for creeking when you move them. Mine did it and it took forever to find. Also look for a bound bushing. Maybe loosen them all up and rock the jeep side to side?

Not really sure how to check the springs... I yanked on the springs, track bar, tie rod, and steering arm looking for movement. Nothing. It crunches in the rear too I found.

MTG
01-11-2013, 02:56 AM
Not really sure how to check the springs... I yanked on the springs, track bar, tie rod, and steering arm looking for movement. Nothing. It crunches in the rear too I found.

The front springs need to be rotated around until the end of the spring sits in the notch of the perch.

If it's bound it make still be tight, so you need to loosen everything, shake the shit out of it and then retighten.

Can you make it crunch while its parked and jumping on the bumper? Or only when driving?

piginajeep
01-11-2013, 03:13 AM
Is the tires rubbing the pinch seam?

MTG
01-11-2013, 03:22 AM
Is the tires rubbing the pinch seam?

Good call.

Prime8
01-11-2013, 03:57 AM
Is the tires rubbing the pinch seam?

Trimmed the pinch seams already...

Prime8
01-11-2013, 03:59 AM
The front springs need to be rotated around until the end of the spring sits in the notch of the perch.

If it's bound it make still be tight, so you need to loosen everything, shake the shit out of it and then retighten.

Can you make it crunch while its parked and jumping on the bumper? Or only when driving?

I'll check out the spring locations. The mechanic seems pretty legit, a jeeper from way back, so I don't think he'd make such a simple mistake, but I'll check it out.

piginajeep
01-11-2013, 04:00 AM
Trimmed the pinch seams already...

How much? I would take it to the dealer and have them cycle the suspension with the wheels On. They'll need to remove the coils and shocks.

Prime8
01-11-2013, 04:01 AM
Thanks for the help everyone! Keep the suggestions coming so I can try a bunch.

Prime8
01-12-2013, 01:48 AM
Got the "crunching" fixed today. The johnny joints weren't vertical enough and were grinding against the brackets when flexing. Also got the Reel 1350 front shaft installed.

As promised, a while back, here is the wiring guide for the rear tail lights supplied by EVO for their rockskins.
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Prime8
01-12-2013, 09:56 PM
Trimmed my front fenders today during my sons nap time! Rear fenders tomorrow during nap time. I'll post some pictures later.

Does anyone know if I can flip my RK tie rod to sit on top of the mounts instead of hanging from the underside? This would help to keep it level and also provide more clearance. Does it change vehicle dynamics to flip it over?

Prime8
01-12-2013, 11:09 PM
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RockyJk
01-12-2013, 11:26 PM
12181121821218312184

Came out clean! :thumbup:

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JKAnimal
01-12-2013, 11:32 PM
12181121821218312184

Yeah looks like you got a very straight cut! Looks good!


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Prime8
01-13-2013, 12:41 AM
Yeah, after I cleaned up the dremel disk cuts with a razor blade, they looked pretty good. Cut them on the vehicle. Much faster than following all the directions from Project JK, although I did use those directions quite a bit. Kept most of the structural plastic too, just trimmed it back at an angle with a sawzall. Tried to put the door trim along the edges to make it even cleaner, but the flexible plastic isn't so flexible at 40 degrees F. The packaging says it needs to be 65F or above. So it might be awhile...

OverlanderJK
01-13-2013, 02:13 AM
Use a hair dryer or a heat gun. It will warm it up enough to mold it to fit the edges.

Prime8
01-13-2013, 03:08 AM
Yeah, I thought about that... But there is a lot of other stuff that needs doing, so I may just wait. But thanks for the suggestion!

FoxC
01-13-2013, 03:28 AM
lookin good:thumb:

JeepJK4832
01-13-2013, 05:02 AM
Your rig is looking nice!

Prime8
01-13-2013, 05:26 AM
Thanks! Hoping to have it ready to apply for the JK Experience this year. My wife and I would LOVE to be invited...

Hightower
01-13-2013, 06:48 AM
Thanks! Hoping to have it ready to apply for the JK Experience this year. My wife and I would LOVE to be invited...

Just found your thread your rig is looking sweet..

Prime8
01-13-2013, 10:42 PM
Got the side markers installed. It's much colder today... Also put JB Weld over the gap made by trimming my rear pinch seam. Didn't get a picture of the pinch seam, since it was so cold my phone said "Too cold to use flash", but here's the side markers...

Prime8
01-13-2013, 10:44 PM
Apparently photo uploading isn't working right now, it won't give me the option to attach a photo after selecting it.

Prime8
01-13-2013, 11:21 PM
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GCM 2
01-13-2013, 11:24 PM
Very clean install on the turn signal/side marker lights! The jeep is coming together nicely :thumb:

Prime8
01-13-2013, 11:43 PM
Thanks Greg! I used the dremel plastic cutting disc, placed it behind the plastic, and pulled it towards myself to cut the semi-circle out of the plastic. Perfect radius compared to the light!

munstie
01-14-2013, 11:26 PM
Thanks! Hoping to have it ready to apply for the JK Experience this year. My wife and I would LOVE to be invited...

The build looks good, I am hoping to have mine built up enough to sign up for the JKX as well

2011 JKU 3.5 R.E. Longarm lift.

dchew
01-14-2013, 11:45 PM
Got the "crunching" fixed today. The johnny joints weren't vertical enough and were grinding against the brackets when flexing. Also got the Reel 1350 front shaft installed.


So to fix this did you just loosen the lock nut and rotate the joint a few degrees or was it something more involved?

Dave

Prime8
01-15-2013, 01:45 AM
Dave - since the dealer installed it, I had them fix their issue... Haha. But they twisted the johnny joints so they were more vertical to keep them from rubbing on the brackets. I believe they also cycles the suspension. It worked! No more noise.

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Prime8
01-18-2013, 12:28 PM
With 37"s and trimmed fenders, does anything else need trimmed? I trimmed the little triangle of pinch seam off the front of the rear wheel wells, but after posting this picture on the 1/4 Pounder thread, I noticed the pinch seam in the front looks dangerously close. Anyone know if more trimming is necessary?

Prime8
01-18-2013, 12:30 PM
Trim seam in rear of wheel well...?

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piginajeep
01-18-2013, 02:32 PM
Trim seam in rear of wheel well...?

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That's not even close, the axle moves forward when you stuff anyhow


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Prime8
01-18-2013, 03:28 PM
That's not even close, the axle moves forward when you stuff anyhow


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Ok, cool. Thanks Chris. And in the rear wheel wells, just that triangle at the front of the well is necessary, right?

MTG
01-18-2013, 03:36 PM
Ok, cool. Thanks Chris. And in the rear wheel wells, just that triangle at the front of the well is necessary, right?

Mine just touch on the back too. :thumb:

piginajeep
01-18-2013, 04:07 PM
Ok, cool. Thanks Chris. And in the rear wheel wells, just that triangle at the front of the well is necessary, right?

You might need to take more out, you need to flex out the suspension. I cut, (fanned) the pinch seam and rolled it in.

Hock Edition
01-18-2013, 04:34 PM
what all do you need to install the skins. tool wise?

Prime8
01-18-2013, 04:43 PM
what all do you need to install the skins. tool wise?

Good drill bits (dewalt titanium worked the best, till they dulled), nutsert tool (harbor freight green handle one worked fine for $16. I went through 2 of them, but got a full refund), silicone for sealing skins to body (RTV silicone worked best), touch up paint, wrenches/sockets, Allen keys, hammer.

I contacted EVO and asked for the install instructions before even placing my order to know what I was in for and to plan out the install and make sure I had all necessary equipment. I highly recommend reading the install instructions NUMEROUS times before purchasing anything that requires this much time and precision. Not a whole lot of "oops" room in EVOs products, which is a good thing in the end. Makes for a very solid product.

Prime8
01-18-2013, 04:44 PM
You might need to take more out, you need to flex out the suspension. I cut, (fanned) the pinch seam and rolled it in.

Can you take a pic or two and post them here for me to see where you cut and how much? These tires were so damn expensive that I want to make sure I'm good before hitting the trails!

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Hock Edition
01-18-2013, 04:44 PM
thanks. I am gonna look and see if i can get the instructions.

Prime8
01-18-2013, 04:46 PM
thanks. I am gonna look and see if i can get the instructions.

Pm me your email and ill send them over right now. Do you need the carrier too, or just the rockskins?

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Prime8
01-18-2013, 05:08 PM
thanks. I am gonna look and see if i can get the instructions.

Sent them your way!

Hock Edition
01-18-2013, 05:09 PM
thank you for the email

Prime8
01-19-2013, 12:48 AM
Gents, I need a Warn winch, 9k-10k. Anyone have one for sale?

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Skid_Kid
01-19-2013, 07:07 PM
Sweet rig! I am looking at a simular set up. What size swaybar end links did you use with your DoubleD?

Prime8
01-20-2013, 06:24 AM
Skid,
The dealer installed the lift and mentioned that the sway bar end links in the front were too short and he didn't want the sway bar flipping under and getting stuck. So he swapped the fronts with the rears and that solved the problem!

Skid_Kid
01-20-2013, 07:08 AM
Skid,
The dealer installed the lift and mentioned that the sway bar end links in the front were too short and he didn't want the sway bar flipping under and getting stuck. So he swapped the fronts with the rears and that solved the problem!

Thanks! I will look into that when I order mine.

Prime8
01-21-2013, 03:20 PM
Looking to buy a new Warn winch. The gear ratio and weight spec are the same for the VR10000 and the Zeon 10k. The specs are pretty much the same on the Warn site. Can someone explain why the Zeon is about $350 more? Is it because it looks nicer and is their new model? Sell me on the Zeon... Go!

Prime8
01-21-2013, 11:48 PM
Anyone have winch info...?

ProfessionalDriver
01-21-2013, 11:52 PM
Anyone have winch info...?

Will the Zeon Winch fit in an EVO 1/4 Pounder? I've looked at these same options and can't come up with a definitive answer...

Prime8
01-21-2013, 11:57 PM
Will the Zeon Winch fit in an EVO 1/4 Pounder? I've looked at these same options and can't come up with a definitive answer...

I asked Chris at EVO and he said that sometimes the PowerPlant requires some minor trimming, but otherwise all Warns will fit. As Zeon is new, it might be worth asking about it specifically, or you can just go to the warn specs and get the dimensions and see if there are any other winches of similar dimensions, since he said they all fit.

GCM 2
01-22-2013, 12:13 AM
Will the Zeon Winch fit in an EVO 1/4 Pounder? I've looked at these same options and can't come up with a definitive answer...

Like Prime8 posted, I had to trim to get my PowerPlant to fit. It was minor, so I actually sanded down the front corner of the winche's black cover (below where the controller plugs in). The cover/case on the PowerPlant is aluminum, but some people actually trim the bumper. I did ask Mel at Off Road Evolution a while back and he said Warn made sure to make the Zeon dimensions the same as other Warn winches because if it wasn't, all the bumpers made by all the manufacturers, for all the different vehicle would have to be redesigned to fit just the new Zeon. Jeeps are probably the easiest vehicle for winch and bumper manufacturers to build for compared to other vehicles.

Prime8
01-22-2013, 02:03 AM
Thanks Greg. What's your input on which winch I should get? VR10000 or Zeon 10k. Keep in mind I will only be using it about 10-15 days a year (especially hope to use it at JKX this year!). Is it worth paying the extra ~$350 for the Zeon for that little use? I'm really torn because I like to put nice stuff on my rig, but with a cage, cb, and other optional stuff to buy before this summer, I'm wondering if I really need the Zeon... Any winch advice from you would be greatly appreciated, even of its not one of these two models.

GCM 2
01-22-2013, 02:13 AM
Thanks Greg. What's your input on which winch I should get? VR10000 or Zeon 10k. Keep in mind I will only be using it about 10-15 days a year (especially hope to use it at JKX this year!). Is it worth paying the extra ~$350 for the Zeon for that little use? I'm really torn because I like to put nice stuff on my rig, but with a cage, cb, and other optional stuff to buy before this summer, I'm wondering if I really need the Zeon... Any winch advice from you would be greatly appreciated, even of its not one of these two models.

Honestly, since both choices are a Warn you aren't going to go wrong, but since you are looking at other mods too I would just save the extra coin and go with the less expensive one of the two. I like nice stuff too, but either winch is still going to be one of the best currently out there and you can't even see them when they are installed between the frame rails :thumb:

Prime8
01-22-2013, 02:34 AM
Honestly, since both choices are a Warn you aren't going to go wrong, but since you are looking at other mods too I would just save the extra coin and go with the less expensive one of the two. I like nice stuff too, but either winch is still going to be one of the best currently out there and you can't even see them when they are installed between the frame rails :thumb:

Sounds good. Do you know the difference between the two? The specs on the Warn site aren't really different... Load capacity and gearing are the same, but they don't list the line speed. Is that going to be a major issue? Also, I read the entry level VR series are made in china... Know anything about that?

GCM 2
01-22-2013, 03:16 AM
Sounds good. Do you know the difference between the two? The specs on the Warn site aren't really different... Load capacity and gearing are the same, but they don't list the line speed. Is that going to be a major issue? Also, I read the entry level VR series are made in china... Know anything about that?

Prime, I have no experience with either of those Warn winches, I just believe in the brand. Unfortunately, about everything in our world of 4x4's, other than EVO, Dynatrac, and J.E., Reel is probably produced in China. Sad but true >:( Warn has a pretty good warranty on all of their products so I would not think reliability or replacement isn't an issue. Maybe Eddie or ChrisB or one of our other brain trust here will chime in for you :cheesy:

Prime8
01-23-2013, 04:50 PM
Eddie? Chris? Winch advice?

Notajerryskid
01-23-2013, 06:19 PM
I use the 9.5ti warn and have had no issues with it. I would not get the expensive winch unless it was the power plant

ProfessionalDriver
01-23-2013, 07:14 PM
Eddie? Chris? Winch advice?

I'm also interested in this... :yup:

MTG
01-23-2013, 08:03 PM
I use the 9.5ti warn and have had no issues with it. I would not get the expensive winch unless it was the power plant

Agreed.

You can't go wrong with Warn. I have the Warn cti-s. If you don't have onboard air already, I'd just go with the power plant and be done with it.

Prime8
01-23-2013, 08:06 PM
Agreed.

You can't go wrong with Warn. I have the Warn cti-s. If you don't have onboard air already, I'd just go with the power plant and be done with it.

So, I can get the Zeon 10k for $900 and the ARB compressor for $250, or spend $1600 on the PowerPlant? That doesn't seem like a good investment...

MTG
01-23-2013, 08:23 PM
So, I can get the Zeon 10k for $900 and the ARB compressor for $250, or spend $1600 on the PowerPlant? That doesn't seem like a good investment...

Sorry, I didn't realize saving $400* was your priority on your $40K+ jeep build. :crazyeyes:

Therefore, I'll offer the following free of charge. :cheesy:

I have an ARB compressor and do not have the PowerPlant, but I wish I did. The PowerPlant fills tires faster than the single ARB compressor, I also find it annoying to take time to open up the hood every time I want to use the compressor (on the trail and other places), sometimes it is hot as hell in the engine compartment when you are done wheeling and especially after airing up (the compressor gets very hot)...IMHO it would be much nicer to just plug into your compressor outside of your jeep. Plus, I'm not sure the price comparison is exactly comparable because I do not know that the performance of the Zeon and the PowerPlant are the same...I haven't researched it...because I don't care.

But if you want to save even more money, go by a Smittybuilt winch. I have friends that run them, have winched several vehicles with them, and they worked great! :thumb:

*I added $50 for the ARB compressor mount you'll need, but not the additional time and supplies needed to wire it up. :thumb:

Prime8
01-23-2013, 09:14 PM
Sorry, I didn't realize saving $400* was your priority on your $40K+ jeep build. :crazyeyes:

Therefore, I'll offer the following free of charge. :cheesy:

I have an ARB compressor and do not have the PowerPlant, but I wish I did. The PowerPlant fills tires faster than the single ARB compressor, I also find it annoying to take time to open up the hood every time I want to use the compressor (on the trail and other places), sometimes it is hot as hell in the engine compartment when you are done wheeling and especially after airing up (the compressor gets very hot)...IMHO it would be much nicer to just plug into your compressor outside of your jeep. Plus, I'm not sure the price comparison is exactly comparable because I do not know that the performance of the Zeon and the PowerPlant are the same...I haven't researched it...because I don't care.

But if you want to save even more money, go by a Smittybuilt winch. I have friends that run them, have winched several vehicles with them, and they worked great! :thumb:

*I added $50 for the ARB compressor mount you'll need, but not the additional time and supplies needed to wire it up. :thumb:

Take it easy buddy! Thanks for the advice, though.

My thought is why waste $400 when there are other mods I want/need before JKX? Just because the jeep is expensive doesn't mean I can just throw money around willy-nilly. $400 is $400, regardless of vehicle price, and there is no use spending it if I don't have to. I searched Craigslist hoping to find a used PowerPlant, without luck.

OverlanderJK
01-23-2013, 09:20 PM
Sorry, I didn't realize saving $400* was your priority on your $40K+ jeep build. :crazyeyes:

Therefore, I'll offer the following free of charge. :cheesy:

I have an ARB compressor and do not have the PowerPlant, but I wish I did. The PowerPlant fills tires faster than the single ARB compressor, I also find it annoying to take time to open up the hood every time I want to use the compressor (on the trail and other places), sometimes it is hot as hell in the engine compartment when you are done wheeling and especially after airing up (the compressor gets very hot)...IMHO it would be much nicer to just plug into your compressor outside of your jeep. Plus, I'm not sure the price comparison is exactly comparable because I do not know that the performance of the Zeon and the PowerPlant are the same...I haven't researched it...because I don't care.

But if you want to save even more money, go by a Smittybuilt winch. I have friends that run them, have winched several vehicles with them, and they worked great! :thumb:

*I added $50 for the ARB compressor mount you'll need, but not the additional time and supplies needed to wire it up. :thumb:

:cheesy: I agree with this though.


Take it easy buddy! Thanks for the advice, though.

My thought is why waste $400 when there are other mods I want/need before JKX? Just because the jeep is expensive doesn't mean I can just throw money around willy-nilly. $400 is $400, regardless of vehicle price, and there is no use spending it if I don't have to. I searched Craigslist hoping to find a used PowerPlant, without luck.

I think there is one on JKF for like $1,000. Look there.

And I can tell you that the powerplant will fill tires fast. Eddie can fill his 40's in about the time it takes me to fill my stockers. His takes a little longer but when I get 35's he will defiantly be done faster then me with my compressor. Get the powerplant. I will eventually when I have an extra $1,500 to spend.

piginajeep
01-23-2013, 09:24 PM
The VR series is a cheaper line for warn. I'm not sure what differences the VR has but it's cheaper for a reason.

I don't know anything about the zeon. Sorry.


I do have one of the first power plants out from late 2006. It's always worked great and is very reliable. Warn has great customer service. I'll never own another brand winch.



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MTG
01-23-2013, 09:48 PM
Take it easy buddy! Thanks for the advice, though.

Oh, I'm taking it easy. Trust me. ;) And you're welcome. :yup:




My thought is why waste $400 when there are other mods I want/need before JKX? Just because the jeep is expensive doesn't mean I can just throw money around willy-nilly. $400 is $400, regardless of vehicle price, and there is no use spending it if I don't have to. I searched Craigslist hoping to find a used PowerPlant, without luck.

For me personally, I do not think it is a waste of $400 for the reasons I posted above and probably some others. But if you're looking to save money to put to other needs, there are less expensive options out there than the ones you listed. :thumb:

Notajerryskid
01-23-2013, 09:53 PM
The Killer thing on the power plant is that it has its own tank. If you add air compressor, tank, switches, hose and fittings you will probably be around 500 plus dollars. I was going with the power plant until I got a smoking deal on my 9.5ti. Now i'm adding on board air to my rig. I want to be able to run air tools (somewhat) off the system, hence the tank. also with at tank you can have most the air ready for you when you get off the trail.

Prime8
01-26-2013, 10:28 PM
Got the ARB front diff cover installed today, and filled up with Royal Purple (Nurple) synthetic 75-140. Thanks to Dave Chew for a smoking deal on this diff cover!13974

Notajerryskid
01-27-2013, 02:25 AM
Looks great!

Chiromancer
01-28-2013, 09:05 AM
Thanks for the info on winches guys... So many things to consider with these mods we want to do.

I agree 400$ is 400$, but not all products are the same and 400$ spent in one area may result in overall savings or an increase in cost. Prioritizing those choices can drive me crazy!

Prime8
01-29-2013, 02:09 AM
Another winch question... As I am searching the whole country for a used PowerPlant, I am noticing some HDs available. Is there any issue with getting the 12k lb HD over the standard 9.5k lb PowerPlant? Are they larger? Will they rip my bumper off? I have the EVO 1/4 w/ stinger, btw.

Notajerryskid
01-29-2013, 04:34 AM
I would take a 12,000 over a 9.5 any day. Due to the weight of the JKU.

Prime8
01-29-2013, 04:35 AM
I would take a 12,000 over a 9.5 any day. Due to the weight of the JKU.

But will it fit and function safely?

Notajerryskid
01-29-2013, 04:41 AM
It should. I think Eddie runs a 12k power plant I believe with a 1/4 pounder.

Skid_Kid
01-29-2013, 04:42 AM
But will it fit and function safely?

Both the HP and HD mount the same. The only difference in specs is the gear ratio.


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Prime8
01-29-2013, 04:44 AM
Both the HP and HD mount the same


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Ok. And the 1/4 pounder doesn't need any mounting plates, right? It's ready to go?

Skid_Kid
01-29-2013, 04:45 AM
Ok. And the 1/4 pounder doesn't need any mounting plates, right? It's ready to go?

Correct.


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Prime8
01-29-2013, 04:46 AM
Correct.


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Cool beans! Thanks! Might be picking up a never used, mounted for 3 months PowerPlant HD for $1100 then!

Skid_Kid
01-29-2013, 04:48 AM
Cool beans! Thanks! Might be picking up a never used, mounted for 3 months PowerPlant HD for $1100 then!

Nice! Good luck.


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wayoflife
01-29-2013, 05:01 AM
It should. I think Eddie runs a 12k power plant I believe with a 1/4 pounder.

Actually, I run a 9500. It's been all that I've needed.

Notajerryskid
01-29-2013, 05:07 AM
Actually, I run a 9500. It's been all that I've needed.

Oops. My bad.

Prime8
01-29-2013, 05:09 AM
Actually, I run a 9500. It's been all that I've needed.

Would there be any issues with the 12k? Def worth $1100?

jkjurny
01-29-2013, 05:47 AM
So I have hardly any experience, just learning from what I've read on the forum. I went with the Warn Zeon 10-s, Powertank 10lb., and Viair compressor as a backup for the Powertank. The combo ended up to be the same price as a Warn Powerplant after you changed to synthetic rope.

Not sure how the combo will work out, so we'll see :-)

nyglt56
01-29-2013, 05:54 AM
Sexy. Nuff said.

StrizzyChris
01-29-2013, 07:05 AM
Would there be any issues with the 12k? Def worth $1100?

Im with you on saving $400 is saving 400! A nearly new 12k powerplant for 1100 is a pretty good deal. I got a used 9.5ti for 600 but it doesn't have air obviously. New or used a warn is a reliable beast! I still have one thats 20+ years old on my fathers car trailer and its still chuggin along. So I decided to go with used and the last decision was go big and spend on powerplant or save for onboard air that I'll be getting for ARB's later anyway. Stick to your plan, plan backwards and get what best suits your envisioned build. Im loving watching slimer grow!

Prime8
01-30-2013, 03:28 AM
Thanks everyone for your help and advice. Are there any mods I will need due to the Warn PowerPlant HD? Someone mentioned a new battery. Wayalife posted a while ago about a good battery for the 2012/2013 JKs. Anyone happen to remember or have any other battery or winch advice?

hawgincognito
01-30-2013, 03:38 AM
Thanks everyone for your help and advice. Are there any mods I will need due to the Warn PowerPlant HD? Someone mentioned a new battery. Wayalife posted a while ago about a good battery for the 2012/2013 JKs. Anyone happen to remember or have any other battery or winch advice?

http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?3313-Odyssey-Performance-Series-Battery-for-2012-Up-Jeep-JK-Wranglers

Prime8
02-01-2013, 04:30 AM
Boom shakalaka! Got my PowerPlant today! Picked it up off a guy in St. Louis. Drove over 6 hours roundup after work to pick it up through horrendous wind the entire way. My hood was bouncing to the point of catching on the hood latch... And it was between 10-20 F the entire drive, so the rubber hood straps were as inelastic as possible... I've never seen anything like it. Anyways, got a Warn PowerPlant HD (12k model) mounted for 3 months but never used, in essentially new condition for (drumroll please...)
$1000!!!!
It's still in the back of the jeep, as it is 10F and dropping outside and don't feel like battling the EVO carrier... I will try and post pics tomorrow!

StrizzyChris
02-01-2013, 04:47 AM
Cant beat that deal/price! Congrats!

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Prime8
02-01-2013, 05:15 AM
Cant beat that deal/price! Congrats!

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I know, right? As my mom would say, I'm "jazzed"! The hardest part will be waiting for the winter to end so I can mount it!!!

Notajerryskid
02-01-2013, 05:16 AM
Congrats!!!!! I knew you would find it!!

Prime8
02-01-2013, 05:17 AM
Congrats!!!!! I knew you would find it!!

Haha, thanks brother! Can't wait to wheel with you this summer and compare our rigs after following each others builds! (Haha, well me following yours and you helping with mine!)

Notajerryskid
02-01-2013, 12:14 PM
Dude you will leave me in the dust. You have better suspension, transfer case, and motor.

But it will be great to get out.

Prime8
02-01-2013, 12:26 PM
Dude you will leave me in the dust. You have better suspension, transfer case, and motor.

But it will be great to get out.

Meh, dust schmust. With your better access to wheeling venues, I'm sure your driving abilities exceed mine. Not saying I'm bad, just saying I am always open to learning more, from more experienced people. That's the main reason I am applying to JKX, to learn from the best! Haha, and also have a blast!

Notajerryskid
02-01-2013, 01:02 PM
Lol. Sooooo is the winch mounted yet?

Prime8
02-01-2013, 01:04 PM
Lol. Sooooo is the winch mounted yet?

Haha, look up the current weather in Peoria Illinois. 1degree. ONE FUGGIN DEGREE! I miss you Phoenix!

Notajerryskid
02-01-2013, 01:16 PM
Remember. You can always put enough clothing on to be warm. But you can never remove enough to be cool in 115 deg sun.

Prime8
02-01-2013, 01:57 PM
Remember. You can always put enough clothing on to be warm. But you can never remove enough to be cool in 115 deg sun.

Haha, that's what I used to say, but it's real hard to thread a nut onto a bolt when you're wrapped up like the younger brother on A Christmas Story.

Prime8
02-03-2013, 04:33 AM
Here's my precious...
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$1k!

Skid_Kid
02-03-2013, 04:35 AM
Here's my precious...

$1k!

SWEET! You did get it! I am jealous!

GCM 2
02-03-2013, 04:45 AM
Here's my precious...
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$1k!

Well I know you went back and forth with a decision on a winch, but that PowerPlant is pretty badass :thumb: That is a really great price too, those typically go for $1200-1500.

Droelle
02-03-2013, 08:33 AM
Gob danmit! Not to pry into your personal business but what do you do for a living? You must not have any type of debt to be shelling out money like this on a 2013 JKU Rubicon! Hell I have 2012 JKU Rubi and make 92k a year as a diesel mechanic and I'm still just making a list for my jeep lol!

Nice build tho! Very jealous of the color! Wanted my jeep to match my box. Oh well!

Hellfire
02-03-2013, 09:07 AM
Wanted my jeep to match my box. Oh well!

Mine is close...lol

Prime8
02-03-2013, 07:32 PM
On a funnier note, this is what happens when your son INSISTS on playing in the sandbox, even though its cold outside. He equates sunshine with warmth. So after much crying and fussing, I let him go play in the sandbox. This is 30 seconds later...
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Now he's happily playing inside again.

Prime8
02-04-2013, 12:33 PM
So with the PowerPlant HD on the front of the rig, do I need to replace my battery, or will the stock one hold up for a while?

dchew
02-04-2013, 12:38 PM
How many times do you plan on getting stuck? :)
Haha
Seriously I bet most winches are on factory batteries.
How many more amps does your HD draw vs the normal powerplant?

Prime8
02-04-2013, 12:51 PM
How many times do you plan on getting stuck? :)
Haha
Seriously I bet most winches are on factory batteries.
How many more amps does your JS draw vs the normal powerplant?

Everyday! All the damn salt up here has seized up my entire undercarriage, so I need to winch myself to work in 125' segments... Haha. The Currie Johnny joints on the carrier have rusted... Any way to coat those to prevent corrosion?

dchew
02-04-2013, 12:57 PM
Sorry screwed up my post. I meant how much more amps does your HD draw...

Prime8
02-04-2013, 01:00 PM
Sorry screwed up my post. I meant how much more amps does your HD draw...

I have no idea. I will ask Warn. Need to call them today. I need a manual in English. The one I have is in Dutch, Swedish, Finnish, and Italian, but no English... Haha. Also need the two air tools and want new mounting hardware.

hinrichs
02-04-2013, 04:58 PM
cant wait to see the powerplant mounted up, how much does it weigh in at?

Prime8
02-04-2013, 05:02 PM
cant wait to see the powerplant mounted up, how much does it weigh in at?

Heavy. Haha. With the cold outside, my carrier has become extremely hard to use, so I attempted to get it out of the jeep through the back seat. Almost gave myself a hernia... The Warn site says 100lbs. I wouldn't doubt it.

piginajeep
02-05-2013, 04:31 AM
Heavy. Haha. With the cold outside, my carrier has become extremely hard to use, so I attempted to get it out of the jeep through the back seat. Almost gave myself a hernia... The Warn site says 100lbs. I wouldn't doubt it.

It needs adjusted then 👍

MTG
02-05-2013, 06:28 AM
It needs adjusted then 👍

Or lubed. Have you lubed the zerk fittings?

Skid_Kid
02-05-2013, 07:49 AM
I have no idea. I will ask Warn. Need to call them today. I need a manual in English. The one I have is in Dutch, Swedish, Finnish, and Italian, but no English... Haha. Also need the two air tools and want new mounting hardware.

Here is the link for the english manual for you.

http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/images/1365/73203A3_rs.pdf

Prime8
02-05-2013, 12:04 PM
It needs adjusted then 👍

Haha, yes it does. The fitment is due to the slight imperfections in my install... These slight imperfections add up, especially when the tolerances are so small! Haha, but there is absolutely no rattle! Once it warms up, I plan on tackling it again. I spent maybe an hour and a half trying to get the fitment right on initial install, but I was so anxious to get done that as soon as it was functional I called it done! Plus, it was slow going because I was doing it by myself and that sucker is heavy.

Prime8
02-05-2013, 12:05 PM
Or lubed. Have you lubed the zerk fittings?

It moves just fine, the pin holes just don't line up the best. So there is much yanking to get the second pin in, especially when it is cold and the material is even less ductile.

Prime8
02-05-2013, 12:08 PM
Here is the link for the english manual for you.

http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/images/1365/73203A3_rs.pdf

Thanks! I will use that until I get the copy from Warn. They are sending one out free of charge! I appreciate the help though. I am just too anal to keep 8"x11" printer paper manuals in my glovebox. Haha, admitting you have a problem is the first step...
But this copy will live in my garage with the well-used stack of install manuals from manufacturers and Project JK.

Notajerryskid
02-05-2013, 01:00 PM
Or LUBED. Have you lubed the zerk fittings?

I giggled. Lube. :D

biggy
02-10-2013, 09:06 PM
Prime clear your inbox please.

Prime8
02-10-2013, 09:14 PM
Cleared, a little... Haha

biggy
02-10-2013, 09:51 PM
Prime clear your inbox please.

Prime8
02-10-2013, 11:41 PM
Thanks for the support Biggy! Hope to keep things interesting on this thread as much as possible! Already wishing I could put the soft top back on. Sick of winter. Let me know if you need any help or pointers with that carrier, it can be a rough install.

TrailReady
02-22-2013, 05:34 AM
Prime8, how do you like your LOD sliders? Strongly considering these for my rig. Any pics?

Prime8
02-23-2013, 08:43 PM
Prime8, how do you like your LOD sliders? Strongly considering these for my rig. Any pics?

Sorry, I missed your message alert! I love the LoD sliders. Eddie recommended them for me. My original choices were the EVOs, shrockworks, or poison spyder rocker knockers. After talking to Eddie though, and reading reviews online, I went with the LoDs. I wanted bolt on which ruled out EVO. I heard that the PSC ones can bend against the body and pin the door closed. And the shrockworks had great quality reviews but horrible wait-time issues. I also needed a step for the wife. So the LoD were the perfect solution. They are super beefy and provide a great step, while still being fairly low profile. The step comes in handy when messing with the soft top or washing the hardtop. The only downside is that, because they do stick out a few inches, it's easy to drag your pant leg down the sliders when getting out. So if it is wet or muddy, it gets on your pants. If you are cognizant of this you can avoid it though. I'd definitely recommend them, especially if you need a step. There is a great install write up on Project JK for them.

Prime8
02-23-2013, 08:55 PM
No real clear photos on hand, but here's one from today...
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silverbackjk
02-23-2013, 09:00 PM
No real clear photos on hand, but here's one from today...
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looking good.

Prime8
02-23-2013, 09:02 PM
looking good.

Thanks brother! My 3 year old son had to get in on the action too. This is at the gym this morning. When we came out and he saw how "unique" my park job was, he said "dad, you're crazy"
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silverbackjk
02-23-2013, 09:05 PM
Thanks brother! My 3 year old son had to get in on the action too. This is at the gym this morning. When we came out and he saw how "unique" my park job was, he said "dad, you're crazy"
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so cute my 4 year old loves anything jeep.

TrailReady
02-23-2013, 10:15 PM
Sorry, I missed your message alert! I love the LoD sliders. Eddie recommended them for me. My original choices were the EVOs, shrockworks, or poison spyder rocker knockers. After talking to Eddie though, and reading reviews online, I went with the LoDs. I wanted bolt on which ruled out EVO. I heard that the PSC ones can bend against the body and pin the door closed. And the shrockworks had great quality reviews but horrible wait-time issues. I also needed a step for the wife. So the LoD were the perfect solution. They are super beefy and provide a great step, while still being fairly low profile. The step comes in handy when messing with the soft top or washing the hardtop. The only downside is that, because they do stick out a few inches, it's easy to drag your pant leg down the sliders when getting out. So if it is wet or muddy, it gets on your pants. If you are cognizant of this you can avoid it though. I'd definitely recommend them, especially if you need a step. There is a great install write up on Project JK for them.

I really like them, saw them in person a couple weeks ago and really feel they will work good for my application. Just wanted to here some input from a happy customer. Thanks!

Your Jeep looks great by the way. The EVO tire carrier looks great on that color.

MTG
02-23-2013, 10:18 PM
Thanks brother! My 3 year old son had to get in on the action too. This is at the gym this morning. When we came out and he saw how "unique" my park job was, he said "dad, you're crazy"
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Cute kid Prime8, kids and jeeps are meant to go together. :thumb:

Is the jeep parked behind you running windowless with snow on the ground?

Skid_Kid
02-23-2013, 10:35 PM
Is the jeep parked behind you running windowless with snow on the ground?

Looks like it is. Brrrrrrrrrr.

dchew
02-23-2013, 10:44 PM
Looks awesome Prime8! I gotta come and see that thing this spring. :yup:

Dave