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JKAnimal
12-01-2012, 12:44 AM
Ok so I have had my jeep for a year now and I'm getting to the point to where I want to start wrenching in the garage. Lifts and bigger tires etc. So my question is what do you guys use to get your jeeps off the ground high enough to do lifts, tire rotation etc.
So: floor jacks what size rating etc.
Methods for safe jacking
Jack stands
Bottle jacks
Special tools we might need?

I feel like I know the basic safety stuff but I'm looking for more specific experience related advice.

Thanks!

Tranquillity
12-01-2012, 12:59 AM
Hi lift, jack on the housing, jack mounted on some 4x4 or 6x6.

wayoflife
12-01-2012, 01:13 AM
In the garage, you want to get the biggest floor jack you can get that holds the most weight (3 Tons or so) and can get up to 20" or more. Harbor Freight is where I would recommend you get one. I would also get 6 Ton jack stands as they have big wide footprints and go really tall - this is important when working on a lifted Jeep.

You can safely jack from the bottom of your differential or from the base of your control arm joints on the front axle or at the base of the mounts on the rear axle. Once up, rest your frame rails on jack stands just behind the lower control arm mounts.

With this setup, I can safely work on my big JK running 40's and coil overs.

I personally would never use a Hi-Lift to do work in a garage and rarely use one on the trail. Hi-Lifts can be very useful tools for a difficult recovery but, they are also very dangerous and should only be used if absolutely necessary. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Gary Palms2Pines
12-01-2012, 02:47 AM
Should you chock the wheels when floor jacking and/or jack standing?

OverlanderJK
12-01-2012, 03:49 AM
Should you chock the wheels when floor jacking and/or jack standing?

You don't have to but you can. You can never really to too safe when it comes to jacking up your vehicle. I just put it in gear and pull the embrace though.


And am I the only one that thought something else when I read the title?

Tackerdown
12-01-2012, 03:53 AM
I had to read it twice , fist glance caught me off guard .

And am I the only one that thought something else when I read the title?[/QUOTE]

Tackerdown
12-01-2012, 04:01 AM
I have the Sears special set three ton jack , and two three ton stands with the roller to lay down on. On the negative the stands were just high enough for the 2.5 BB lift and stock 32" tires. I would def. Go with the 6 ton like WOL said, higher and more steady especially if your doing a full lift . Imo

JKAnimal
12-01-2012, 03:41 PM
In the garage, you want to get the biggest floor jack you can get that holds the most weight (3 Tons or so) and can get up to 20" or more. Harbor Freight is where I would recommend you get one. I would also get 6 Ton jack stands as they have big wide footprints and go really tall - this is important when working on a lifted Jeep.

You can safely jack from the bottom of your differential or from the base of your control arm joints on the front axle or at the base of the mounts on the rear axle. Once up, rest your frame rails on jack stands just behind the lower control arm mounts.

With this setup, I can safely work on my big JK running 40's and coil overs.

I personally would never use a Hi-Lift to do work in a garage and rarely use one on the trail. Hi-Lifts can be very useful tools for a difficult recovery but, they are also very dangerous and should only be used if absolutely necessary. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Thanks for the good info! I have been shopping for jacks and jack stands thinking the 2 ton would be good enough from a weight standpoint but they seem so tiny so I thought I must be missing something. I've done a lot of work on F450s on adding wiring and other after market items but we never had to jack them up since you can get on a creeper under them without any problems.


And am I the only one that thought something else when I read the title?

I didn't figure it'd take long for someone to say something about the title :cheesy: Just didn't know how else to say it.. lol

Do you ever put the whole jeep up on 4 jackstands? Like for a full tire rotation of non-directional tires? I would just think its easier to get all four tires off the ground first then tire swap then back down. Is there a trick to it or just jack the front put the jack stands then move to the back and do the same?

wayoflife
12-01-2012, 03:47 PM
Should you chock the wheels when floor jacking and/or jack standing?

If you're planning on just lifting and working one end up at a time, yes, it is a good idea to chock your wheels. If you're planning on placing your whole Jeep on stands, it's really not necessary to do in between steps.


And am I the only one that thought something else when I read the title?

:cheesy:

wayoflife
12-01-2012, 03:50 PM
Do you ever put the whole jeep up on 4 jackstands? Like for a full tire rotation of non-directional tires? I would just think its easier to get all four tires off the ground first then tire swap then back down. Is there a trick to it or just jack the front put the jack stands then move to the back and do the same?

Sure, but in a case like that, I would lift your Jeep high enough to get the tires off the ground and then set the axle housings on jack stands - no need to go higher than you need. Just jack the front, set the axle housing on jack stands positioned near the control arm mounts and then move to the back and do the same.

JKAnimal
12-01-2012, 04:16 PM
Sure, but in a case like that, I would lift your Jeep high enough to get the tires off the ground and then set the axle housings on jack stands - no need to go higher than you need. Just jack the front, set the axle housing on jack stands positioned near the control arm mounts and then move to the back and do the same.

Thanks for everyone's input. I will feel more confident now jacking in the garage... :thinking: :cheesy:

JKAnimal
12-01-2012, 05:06 PM
I just checked Harbor Freight and they have a 4 ton with 20.5" of lift for $129.00 Can't beat that for sure! Set of two 6T jackstans for 44 bucks! WOW

Everywhere else I checked has super expensive stuff!

Thanks WOL! :thumb: :yup:

wayoflife
12-01-2012, 05:17 PM
I just checked Harbor Freight and they have a 4 ton with 20.5" of lift for $129.00 Can't beat that for sure! Set of two 6T jackstans for 44 bucks! WOW

Everywhere else I checked has super expensive stuff!

Thanks WOL! :thumb: :yup:

Yeah, Harbor Freight doesn't always have the highest quality stuff but, what they have is very affordable and for the most part, all you really need. For things like wrenches, sockets, etc, you're better off spending the money and getting Craftsman or the like.

JKAnimal
12-01-2012, 05:24 PM
Yeah, Harbor Freight doesn't always have the highest quality stuff but, what they have is very affordable and for the most part, all you really need. For things like wrenches, sockets, etc, you're better off spending the money and getting Craftsman or the like.

Yeah I have a pretty good tool set that has nearly everything I need at the moment. It's mostly craftsman for the wrenches and sockets and stuff. I don't have any pullers ore things of that nature that I might need to pull apart axles or diffs, but I'm not quite to that point yet.

Before I went on my first Jeep trip this year I ended up buying the craftsman 19.5v impact wrench. It saved us alot of time on the trail since two of us ended up popping our side walls. :blush: I was really glad I had it! It saved alot of time and effort for sure!

JKAnimal
12-05-2012, 04:02 AM
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wayoflife
12-05-2012, 05:57 AM
Right on!! :thumb:

piginajeep
12-05-2012, 06:47 AM
Love the 6 Ton stands from harbor freight. It's a really nice well built set. One the lowest setting it's perfect for 37's

kaptkrappy
12-05-2012, 12:26 PM
Very important tool right there !

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Tackerdown
12-05-2012, 12:27 PM
One thing I didn't think of when I bought my jeep was I may have to buy more tools , man what a bummer.:evil snicker:

JKAnimal
12-05-2012, 02:38 PM
Very important tool right there !

8518

Wow I didn't notice how out of focus those pics were when looking at them on the phone... :thinking:

That tool goes with this tool

8520

Notice it's Trail Rated the official fridge of Jeep :rock:

Needs more stickers though!

wayoflife
12-05-2012, 03:21 PM
Love the 6 Ton stands from harbor freight. It's a really nice well built set. One the lowest setting it's perfect for 37's

For 37's, I couldn't agree more. For 40's, it's borderline but, not that big of a deal being that I can't physically raise our Jeep too much more before it hit's the floor joints above. :crazyeyes:


One thing I didn't think of when I bought my jeep was I may have to buy more tools , man what a bummer.:evil snicker:

LOL!! Funny thing is, I now own 2 complete sets of tools - one for home and one for the trail. I also have a 3rd partial set for when we're doing a big install. :crazyeyes:

wayoflife
12-05-2012, 03:21 PM
Wow I didn't notice how out of focus those pics were when looking at them on the phone... :thinking:

That tool goes with this tool

8520

Notice it's Trail Rated the official fridge of Jeep :rock:

Needs more stickers though!

:clap2: Bravo!!

Tackerdown
12-05-2012, 11:15 PM
LOL!! Funny thing is, I now own 2 complete sets of tools - one for home and one for the trail. I also have a 3rd partial set for when we're doing a big install. :crazyeyes:[/QUOTE]
:bowdown::bowdown: ( Tim the tool man sound)

MTG
12-05-2012, 11:34 PM
LOL!! Funny thing is, I now own 2 complete sets of tools - one for home and one for the trail. I also have a 3rd partial set for when we're doing a big install. :crazyeyes:

This is what I'm working on. It's not the grabbing for the trip that gets me, but putting them all back in the right place that I find annoying. 2 complete sets is where it's at.

Any chance some of the more experienced guys (read WOL, GCM 2, etc.) could put together a list of the tools you carry for runs? I think I have a pretty good grasp on what is needed, but don't recall seeing a comprehensive list (e.g. wrench types and sizes, sockets, specialty tools etc.) posted anywhere.

MTG
12-05-2012, 11:36 PM
What HF floor jack do you recommend? I was there today and picked up a 6 ton bottle jack for the trail (remember seeing this when we helped that family change a flat in texas) and a creeper.

FYI they have creepers on sale now for around $29.

Tackerdown
12-06-2012, 12:18 AM
Any chance some of the more experienced guys (read WOL, GCM 2, etc.) could put together a list of the tools you carry for runs? I think I have a pretty good grasp on what is needed, but don't recall seeing a comprehensive list (e.g. wrench types and sizes, sockets, specialty tools etc.) posted anywhere.[/QUOTE]

That would be cool. I'm pretty mechanical and could figure it out but I would end up with my whole tool set with me. The tools I've picked so far have been just from what I read or have heard about from friends. I'm stock except for a BB lift and don't do anything extreme. Yet , so I guess one would need to see a list and assess what they would really need.:idontknow:

wayoflife
12-06-2012, 01:05 AM
Any chance some of the more experienced guys (read WOL, GCM 2, etc.) could put together a list of the tools you carry for runs? I think I have a pretty good grasp on what is needed, but don't recall seeing a comprehensive list (e.g. wrench types and sizes, sockets, specialty tools etc.) posted anywhere.

Funny you should ask, I've actually been working on a complete write-up of all the tools I carry. Being that I try to carry only what I need, I've been trying to list everything out and give a description of what each one is most commonly used for. I'll try my best to finish it up and get it posted sooner than later.

For now, here's an old shot of what I used to carry. It has since grown and I will post up an updated pic along with my write-up :cool:

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FuriousDz
12-06-2012, 02:14 AM
Funny you should ask, I've actually been working on a complete write-up of all the tools I carry. Being that I try to carry only what I need, I've been trying to list everything out and give a description of what each one is most commonly used for. I'll try my best to finish it up and get it posted sooner than later.

For now, here's an old shot of what I used to carry. It has since grown and I will post up an updated pic along with my write-up :cool:

<img src="http://wayalife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8658"/>

That will be a very helpfull list for sure. Now....if I only had the know how to use all of them.

If I had the time and $ id love to intern at a 4x4 shop

MTG
12-06-2012, 03:42 AM
Funny you should ask, I've actually been working on a complete write-up of all the tools I carry. Being that I try to carry only what I need, I've been trying to list everything out and give a description of what each one is most commonly used for. I'll try my best to finish it up and get it posted sooner than later.

For now, here's an old shot of what I used to carry. It has since grown and I will post up an updated pic along with my write-up :cool:

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Cool! From the looks of it I have most of that stuff. Probably just need to organize it better. :crazy_eyes: I can't wait to see the new and improved list! :thumb:

I have been thinking about combining the torque spec sheet with the size/type tool you need for each application on one sheet. Has that been done before? If not, I don't mind creating it. I'm thinking a laminated copy in the jeep would be a nice reference for when you can't access project-jk.

OverlanderJK
12-06-2012, 07:37 AM
List would be helpful! I am a ford guy so I am in the process of buying all new metric tools to work on the jeep. Lol

JKAnimal
12-06-2012, 05:33 PM
This is great! This thread is getting better and better! Can't wait to see the tool writeup!

MTG the laminated list is a great idea! :clap2:

jkjurny
01-21-2013, 06:10 PM
X3! Really looking forward to the write-up! In the meantime, I'm about to buy a bottle jack. Is this one fine? It has a 13 1/2 in max lift height. My jeep will have a 3" TF LCG Lift and 35" tires. This'll be for the trails.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200326592_200326592

Thanks!