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wayoflife
12-07-2012, 04:57 PM
PEOPLE SUCK!!! This is a favorite destination of ours and the only way you can get to these petroglyphs is off road. If we can't keep people in our own camp behaving themselves, there will be NO hope for keeping our trails open.


Petroglyphs Vandalized
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HINKLEY • In the Black Mountain area, north of Hinkley, images that pre-date all modern art can be found chiseled into basalt rocks.

A favorite of ancient indigenous people for its dark color and ability to withstand the elements, these basalt rocks have been under recent continuous attack by vandals who threaten to destroy history one slab at a time.

“Some of these have been here, I would estimate, maybe several thousand years — maybe as long as 10,000 years,” Jim Shearer, archaeologist at the Barstow Bureau of Land Management, said about the rocks, known as “petroglyphs.”

Shearer said he gets complaints all the time from petroglyph enthusiasts about damage being done to sully the ancient art.

Vandals who travel long, bumpy roads to the petroglyphs’ secluded mountain locations — often in off-road vehicles — scratch personal messages on the rocks, attempt to cut images out of them or copy the images with damage-causing contraptions and, sometimes, even shoot at them with high-powered weapons.

“Damage has been going on for quite a while, but it seems to be getting more extensive,” Shearer said. “In some cases it seems to be professionals going out there.”

Read the whole article here:
http://www.desertdispatch.com/news/hinkley-13750-petroglyphs-vandalized.html

my_jk
12-07-2012, 05:19 PM
It really annoys me when people destroy out history like that and it also puts a bad name out there for us off roaders >:(

JKAnimal
12-07-2012, 05:28 PM
Need to figure a way to put some surveillance equip out there that runs on solar and is well hidden. Then they can catch those A-holes!! Man that really super sucks?:grayno:

ALRydr
12-07-2012, 05:35 PM
This is just another example of the total lack of respect that some people have for others. When I take my kids out with me, we talk about how important it is not to destroy things (no matter how significant or insignificant) they seem. I always tell them we need to leave it just like we found it so the next person can enjoy it too. Too bad more people don't follow this rule!!!

bdmckenna
12-07-2012, 05:54 PM
It makes no sense to me why people do things like this. What is going through their heads?

my_jk
12-07-2012, 05:55 PM
Self greed and disrespect to others :yup:

piginajeep
12-07-2012, 06:02 PM
PEOPLE SUCK!!! This is a favorite destination of ours and the only way you can get to these petroglyphs is off road. If we can't keep people in our own camp behaving themselves, there will be NO hope for keeping our trails open.

these people are not in Our camp.

unfortunetly everyone thinks they are :grayno:

MTG
12-07-2012, 06:14 PM
People DO suck!

I'd like to carve some "petroglyphs" into the people who do this sort of thing!

Sudz
12-07-2012, 06:35 PM
unfortunetly everyone thinks they are :grayno:because people are led to believe that


Vandals who travel long, bumpy roads to the petroglyphs’ secluded mountain locations — often in off-road vehicles — ..even shoot at them with high-powered weapons.

author must have attended the 'Rahm Emanuel School of Journalism', Never Let a Crisis Go to Waste, blame the off-roaders and take a shot at gun ownership

author clearly has an agenda

SRAYMOND68
12-07-2012, 07:14 PM
Its obvious it must be those professinals vandals doing this

JKRay
12-07-2012, 08:29 PM
What a bunch of jackasses!!! :naw:

Linebacker
12-07-2012, 08:46 PM
What a bunch of jackasses!!! :naw:

There are lots of unhappy people out there and this is an excellent example. True off-roaders "who have a fundamental love of the outdoors", To quote Eddie from Maple Honey(?), would not think of doing this. Ever! These jerks are best described as that bodypart on the other side and a little below the bellybutton!!>:(>:(

JKRay
12-07-2012, 10:02 PM
There are lots of unhappy people out there and this is an excellent example. True off-roaders "who have a fundamental love of the outdoors", To quote Eddie from Maple Honey(?), would not think of doing this. Ever! These jerks are best described as that bodypart on the other side and a little below the bellybutton!!>:(>:(

I agree people need to take better care of our history and natural land and keep it beautiful for generations to come! Hope ur not using me as an example. ;)

Linebacker
12-07-2012, 10:20 PM
I agree people need to take better care of our history and natural land and keep it beautiful for generations to come! Hope ur not using me as an example. ;)

Definitely not!!;) There may be members of this forum who do not respect our lands, but I haven't met one yet, and don't think I will.:yup:

gtony12
12-07-2012, 11:29 PM
I get so tired of seeing and hearing stories like this. Are their really people out there that really don't care? I don't understand how someone can get off like this. Just blows my mind. I was hoping one day to have grand kids and be able to off-road to show them things like this. Hopefully some of it will still be there

JKRay
12-07-2012, 11:47 PM
Definitely not!!;) There may be members of this forum who do not respect our lands, but I haven't met one yet, and don't think I will.:yup:

Haha yea same here! :beer:

OverlanderJK
12-08-2012, 07:42 AM
People have no respect for themselves let alone these artifacts. Idiots.

There mothers should have swallowed.:crazyeyes:

Toxic
12-08-2012, 02:30 PM
It is a true shame that peeps in our camp like Eddie states do these things. Won't be long before we are all just riding along at ORV parks, and unable to see the real beauty of our country. Sorry to see that happening in your neck of the woods.

EasyE
12-09-2012, 02:19 PM
Is it possible that those petroglyphs are themselves graffiti ?? With plenty of complaints about defacing natural rock beauty...?? And we just think they are cool because they are really really old..

Trail Bud
12-09-2012, 02:43 PM
People DO suck!

I'd like to carve some "petroglyphs" into the people who do this sort of thing!

2X this!!!

wayoflife
12-09-2012, 03:58 PM
Is it possible that those petroglyphs are themselves graffiti ?? With plenty of complaints about defacing natural rock beauty...?? And we just think they are cool because they are really really old..

You can choose to see these petroglyphs however you want to see them. Certainly, it makes no difference to me and I wouldn't dream of trying to convince you otherwise. What I would hope you can see is that do they mean a lot to others and if nothing else, should be respected for that. If what others think means nothing to you, I should remind you that these petroglyphs are on federal land and protected by the law.

EasyE
12-09-2012, 05:41 PM
You can choose to see these petroglyphs however you want to see them. Certainly, it makes no difference to me and I wouldn't dream of trying to convince you otherwise. What I would hope you can see is that do they mean a lot to others and if nothing else, should be respected for that. If what others think means nothing to you, I should remind you that these petroglyphs are on federal land and protected by the law.

I am a law abiding person and have respect for all things and you may think what you want.. I just was wondering what possessed early man to create those petroglyphs in the first place..

wayoflife
12-09-2012, 05:43 PM
I am a law abiding person and have respect for all things and you may think what you want.. I just was wondering what possessed early man to create those petroglyphs in the first place..

Since we'll never know for sure, what does it really matter. In a lot of ways, maybe that's what makes them so special - the fact that they allow you to wonder.

Gibbo
12-10-2012, 09:46 AM
I'm sorry to tell you guys, that it's exactly the same here in Australia. It seems people suck right around the globe. It has to be in their upbringing, so these people should be stopped from breeding by law. OFF WITH THEIR NUTS!

TwtPunk08JK
12-10-2012, 07:56 PM
Need to figure a way to put some surveillance equip out there that runs on solar and is well hidden. Then they can catch those A-holes!! Man that really super sucks?:grayno:

Kinda like a solor powered motion activated deer cam, camoflauged to look like a rock. That has the ability to trasmit via satalite. That way they can have the authorities waiting for them as they come off the trail.

EasyE
12-10-2012, 09:26 PM
The only way to keep these artifacts from abuse is to close off the area and make them accessible only by foot or not at all. I'm not in favor of this but it has happened elsewhere....

To punish someone afterwards can't work since the damage is already done!!

JKAnimal
12-10-2012, 09:29 PM
Kinda like a solor powered motion activated deer cam, camoflauged to look like a rock. That has the ability to trasmit via satalite. That way they can have the authorities waiting for them as they come off the trail.

Damn Skippy! :thumb: