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FLKEYSJK
11-18-2015, 04:45 PM
I just ordered some Polk audio marine speakers the other day and while I'm at lunch today I decided to mess with the stock speakers. They come with some type of paper film over the speaker and when music was playing with a lot of bass it would vibrate the film a lot so I cut it out and it made a pretty noticeable difference in quality. Less distortion in the bass. Figured there's probably a purpose for the film but since I'm replacing them it doesn't matter. Could help if you plan on keeping the stock stereo.174245

WJCO
11-18-2015, 04:57 PM
I just ordered some Polk audio marine speakers the other day and while I'm at lunch today I decided to mess with the stock speakers. They come with some type of paper film over the speaker and when music was playing with a lot of bass it would vibrate the film a lot so I cut it out and it made a pretty noticeable difference in quality. Less distortion in the bass. Figured there's probably a purpose for the film but since I'm replacing them I doesn't matter. Could help if you plan on keeping the stock stereo.

That's actually a special NASA-designed film to keep toxic climate ozone rays that come through normal sound frequencies from entering your Jeep. Oh well. Wear lots of sunscreen and ear plugs, you'll be fine.

kaptkrappy
11-18-2015, 05:04 PM
Well, I guess I'll be taking my speakers out of the sound bar and removing the fabric this evening.

Thanks for the tip.:thumb:


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Byte
11-18-2015, 05:18 PM
Does this stuff seem to repel or absorb water? It looks like it's some form of splash guard/weather protection. But if it absorbs water I'd say it isn't.

FLKEYSJK
11-18-2015, 05:39 PM
That's actually a special NASA-designed film to keep toxic climate ozone rays that come through normal sound frequencies from entering your Jeep. Oh well. Wear lots of sunscreen and ear plugs, you'll be fine.

Haha that's funny[emoji23]

FLKEYSJK
11-18-2015, 05:39 PM
Well, I guess I'll be taking my speakers out of the sound bar and removing the fabric this evening.

Thanks for the tip.:thumb:


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No problem!

FLKEYSJK
11-18-2015, 05:41 PM
Does this stuff seem to repel or absorb water? It looks like it's some form of splash guard/weather protection. But if it absorbs water I'd say it isn't.

I'll let you know in about 2 hours

WJCO
11-18-2015, 05:49 PM
I think the film was originally designed to keep debris out so the speaker cone didn't get damaged. But truthfully I don't know and I removed it from plenty of speakers over the years.

hinrichs
11-18-2015, 06:31 PM
If we can keep this going about speakers, which would be really nice......anyone know if you can add the stock sub into a jeep without one? I noticed the other day when I had to pull that rear trim out, that all the wires and connectors are there for a sub, but my jeep of course didnt come with the upgraded package and I know the stock one sucks, but its better than nothing.

cozdude
11-18-2015, 06:41 PM
If we can keep this going about speakers, which would be really nice......anyone know if you can add the stock sub into a jeep without one? I noticed the other day when I had to pull that rear trim out, that all the wires and connectors are there for a sub, but my jeep of course didnt come with the upgraded package and I know the stock one sucks, but its better than nothing.

If the wires are there I'm sure it could work. You could get the whole plastic piece as well as the speaker and it should work. What I don't know is if you need the upgraded head unit as well

rinkishjk
11-18-2015, 06:53 PM
If we can keep this going about speakers, which would be really nice......anyone know if you can add the stock sub into a jeep without one? I noticed the other day when I had to pull that rear trim out, that all the wires and connectors are there for a sub, but my jeep of course didnt come with the upgraded package and I know the stock one sucks, but its better than nothing.

I think there is a stock amp below the steering column that would be needed also. Not 100% sure though.

kaptkrappy
11-18-2015, 07:03 PM
If we can keep this going about speakers, which would be really nice......anyone know if you can add the stock sub into a jeep without one? I noticed the other day when I had to pull that rear trim out, that all the wires and connectors are there for a sub, but my jeep of course didnt come with the upgraded package and I know the stock one sucks, but its better than nothing.


If the wires are there I'm sure it could work. You could get the whole plastic piece as well as the speaker and it should work. What I don't know is if you need the upgraded head unit as well

I've also read a couple of times over the years that there is an amplifier included with the factory sub that is tucked up under the steering wheel area on JK's that came equipped with the factory subs.

So, I bet you would need that or some other amp if you are going to install a sub woofer.

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hinrichs
11-18-2015, 07:12 PM
I wonder if any of the guys locally have one I can pull and try on my jeep just to see. I would go aftermarket since I already have a nice sub to use, but I dont want to deal with the extra box and all so thought the oem one was a great option for what I want which is just a little better sound. You can also find the oem floor mounted sub, but they never come with the speaker cover which is annoying.

I will pull the trim tonight and see if I can find the amp tho.

Edit: Just did some google hunting and a guy with no sub in a 14 got one, and no sound so Im sure I dont have the amp. I may end up just getting a better headunit that can support nav and go from there.

cozdude
11-18-2015, 07:15 PM
I've also read a couple of times over the years that there is an amplifier included with the factory sub that is tucked up under the steering wheel area on JK's that came equipped with the factory subs.

So, I bet you would need that or some other amp if you are going to install a sub woofer.

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Good call, I Forgot about the amp. I feel like I should have known that since I had a system in my old car lol

FLKEYSJK
11-18-2015, 07:37 PM
Update! The paper film absorbs water

FLKEYSJK
11-18-2015, 07:57 PM
If we can keep this going about speakers, which would be really nice......anyone know if you can add the stock sub into a jeep without one? I noticed the other day when I had to pull that rear trim out, that all the wires and connectors are there for a sub, but my jeep of course didnt come with the upgraded package and I know the stock one sucks, but its better than nothing.

Did you see where the wire runs? Do you think all jeeps have it, I may check later on

hinrichs
11-18-2015, 08:12 PM
Did you see where the wire runs? Do you think all jeeps have it, I may check later on

From what I remember, it runs just like the stock wiring does for the stock sub setup, just hidden under the trim panel.

Byte
11-18-2015, 08:51 PM
Can't take credit for this resource...was posted in this thread (http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/2015-complete-wiring-diagram-1235497.html).

https://techauthorityonlinedemo.extra.chrysler.com/service/repair/wiring/view/classic.htm

Can't tell for sure whether or not the same harness is used if a non premium sound system is installed at factory but based on previous posts it sounds like the wiring is the same although the amp/sub won't be present.

Plug in year/model/engine and you will see the different wiring for both base and premium audio systems. Looks like it will be a very useful tool!

tonytony9
11-18-2015, 09:27 PM
I highly suggest getting yourself an amp or there is a good chance u will think the polks are worse than stock. Aftermarket speakers for the most part are designed to work with more power than the head unit can produce. You may have clearer highs and mids but the lows will be an absolute joke. I can help you out if you ever decide to install an amp. I'm running a pretty good Polk and jbl setup in my wrangler and I can tell you amps and subs make a world of a difference

hinrichs
11-18-2015, 09:39 PM
I highly suggest getting yourself an amp or there is a good chance u will think the polks are worse than stock. Aftermarket speakers for the most part are designed to work with more power than the head unit can produce. You may have clearer highs and mids but the lows will be an absolute joke. I can help you out if you ever decide to install an amp. I'm running a pretty good Polk and jbl setup in my wrangler and I can tell you amps and subs make a world of a difference

If I could find a box that doesnt take up much space, not like I carry alot of gear, and looks oem or is hidden, then I will add the sub I already have that shouldnt be in my other car. I just can not stand seeing a large box. Hell even the small box I have in my other car is bigger than I would like to see.

Byte
11-18-2015, 09:51 PM
That's generally the problem with subs, sealed or ported, a given cone volume requires a fixed space. The secret is in finding an unused space into which you can throw an appropriate enclosure. Have been looking around my 2015 trying to find room to stuff a 4x 8" sealed setup. No dice so far. Best I can figure is directly behind the rear seat firing up at the rear window. Amp under the rear driver side seat maybe. Lose maybe 2-3 cf in the rear cargo area. But I'd gain back the foot and a half in the floor! After watching a bunch of jeep videos the only thing I see consistently hauled in there is mud...

martinzusmc
11-19-2015, 01:55 AM
What are your thoughts or experience with JL Wrangler Stealthbox? I might be able to pick up 2 for $600-$700. Just not sure if they are worth it. http://www.jlaudio.com/car-audio-stealthbox-jeep-wrangler-unlimited-07-up

FLKEYSJK
11-19-2015, 02:02 AM
I highly suggest getting yourself an amp or there is a good chance u will think the polks are worse than stock. Aftermarket speakers for the most part are designed to work with more power than the head unit can produce. You may have clearer highs and mids but the lows will be an absolute joke. I can help you out if you ever decide to install an amp. I'm running a pretty good Polk and jbl setup in my wrangler and I can tell you amps and subs make a world of a difference

Yeah I knew it wouldn't really be anything great with the stock head unit, I plan to add an amp for the mids/highs and a sub (of course with an amp lol) and a new head unit but I'm working on getting the money for tires and rims first. In my old jeep (2000 tj) I had 4 15" Rockford Fosgate subs in the back, went through that phase quickly, now I'd rather have a clean sounding stereo and a back seat! This is the only pic I could find of it, before the box got carpeted 174296

FLKEYSJK
11-19-2015, 02:05 AM
What are your thoughts or experience with JL Wrangler Stealthbox? I might be able to pick up 2 for $600-$700. Just not sure if they are worth it. http://www.jlaudio.com/car-audio-stealthbox-jeep-wrangler-unlimited-07-up

I was also wondering about those. 600 each or for both?
Edit: I have the 2dr so I'd need the other box

tonytony9
11-19-2015, 02:06 AM
Yeah I knew it wouldn't really be anything great with the stock head unit, I plan to add an amp for the mids/highs and a sub (of course with an amp lol) and a new head unit but I'm working on getting the money for tires and rims first. In my old jeep (2000 tj) I had 4 15" Rockford Fosgate subs in the back, went through that phase quickly, now I'd rather have a clean sounding stereo and a back seat! This is the only pic I could find of it, before the box got carpeted 174296

Wow nice setup you had there! Okay glad you knew that because a ton of people complain about the low end quality on aftermarket speakers because they are simply just not giving them the power they deserve. I have awesome jbl subs in the back with a mono amp and then a 4 channel for the speakers. Absolutely love the sound and for my ear it is perfectly balanced.

martinzusmc
11-19-2015, 02:14 AM
I was also wondering about those. 600 each or for both?
Edit: I have the 2dr so I'd need the other box

A guy wants $800 for both, I am trying to get him to $600-$700 for both.

GregMort13
11-19-2015, 02:19 AM
I wonder if any of the guys locally have one I can pull and try on my jeep just to see. I would go aftermarket since I already have a nice sub to use, but I dont want to deal with the extra box and all so thought the oem one was a great option for what I want which is just a little better sound. You can also find the oem floor mounted sub, but they never come with the speaker cover which is annoying.

I will pull the trim tonight and see if I can find the amp tho.

Edit: Just did some google hunting and a guy with no sub in a 14 got one, and no sound so Im sure I dont have the amp. I may end up just getting a better headunit that can support nav and go from there.

174298

when i had my rubi i was going to do something like this and make a custom drawer that sat on the floor infront of it. was going to put a little railing along the edge and almost use the speaker box as a shelf or a nice place to mount an OBA and a tank or something like that. ill probably do it when i get another 4 door. just an idea jim!

hinrichs
11-19-2015, 02:47 PM
I think to really run a box, without worry of it being stolen, I would need a tuffy deck which I want anyway. I dont go topless much but still would like the added security of knowing my tools wont grow legs and walk away. I do like the orv shelf, since it has a sub mount built in, but is low and expensive but a good option I feel.

http://orv-innovations.com/products/stealth-shelf-2011/

GregMort13
11-19-2015, 03:40 PM
I think to really run a box, without worry of it being stolen, I would need a tuffy deck which I want anyway. I dont go topless much but still would like the added security of knowing my tools wont grow legs and walk away. I do like the orv shelf, since it has a sub mount built in, but is low and expensive but a good option I feel.

http://orv-innovations.com/products/stealth-shelf-2011/

Holy shit thats expensive! Awesome though. I feel like we could fab something up just like that a fraction of that price!

kaptkrappy
11-19-2015, 04:55 PM
I think to really run a box, without worry of it being stolen, I would need a tuffy deck which I want anyway. I dont go topless much but still would like the added security of knowing my tools wont grow legs and walk away. I do like the orv shelf, since it has a sub mount built in, but is low and expensive but a good option I feel.

http://orv-innovations.com/products/stealth-shelf-2011/


Holy shit thats expensive! Awesome though. I feel like we could fab something up just like that a fraction of that price!

You need to check out this thread.

Show Us Your Deck! (http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?31136-Show-Us-Your-Deck!)