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flectarn
11-22-2015, 01:27 AM
This has probably been asked somewhere between 10,000 and gazillion times in the past couple years, however with a recent surge of new tire releases arising , I will go ahead and ask again.

I am looking at 37's for my build. Originally I was going to go with the KO2, however due to the net size of 35.5 when mounted I was turned off. I don't have any experience with other tires so it's hard to make a decision on which to choose.

My question to you is: Given the current 37 inch offerings on the market, which tire would you choose for your daily driver?

Some things to consider:
A: Highway Noise, it can get old pretty quickly
B: Tread longevity, get the most out of the tire
C: Offroad capability, No sense in something that's only as good as a street tire
D: Overall value of the tire. Does the $500 tire offer more value than the $300 tire?
E: Highway handling.


Really looking forward to your response

bsimon187
11-22-2015, 01:32 AM
I have been running the Nitto Trail Grapplers for some time now and they are great on and off road. I frequently drive from SC to MD in my Jeep at 70-80mph and they have been a great tire thus fire.

Running 37x12.50x17's

Trail Jeeps
11-22-2015, 01:34 AM
We love Nittos at the shop. I have been daily driving 40" Trail Grapplers on Jefe for the last two years.

OverlanderJK
11-22-2015, 01:35 AM
This has probably been asked somewhere between 10,000 and gazillion times in the past couple years, however with a recent surge of new tire releases arising , I will go ahead and ask again.

I am looking at 37's for my build. Originally I was going to go with the KO2, however due to the net size of 35.5 when mounted I was turned off. I don't have any experience with other tires so it's hard to make a decision on which to choose.

My question to you is: Given the current 37 inch offerings on the market, which tire would you choose for your daily driver?

Some things to consider:
A: Highway Noise, it can get old pretty quickly
B: Tread longevity, get the most out of the tire
C: Offroad capability, No sense in something that's only as good as a street tire
D: Overall value of the tire. Does the $500 tire offer more value than the $300 tire?
E: Highway handling.


Really looking forward to your response

Where do you normally wheel?

flectarn
11-22-2015, 01:45 AM
I have noticed that the trail grapplers seem extremely popular, and that is probably why.



Where do you normally wheel?

Normally? Nowhere yet, I have only been out once with the Jeep in the dunes. Since I have nowhere to call home as of yet, I am thinking a general offroad tire would be best to start with. I will admit, mudding doesn't seem to appealing to me.

Jknewbi
11-22-2015, 01:52 AM
Interested in this as well. OP has similar requirements as I will once I get lifted. I hear good about Nitto trail grapplers and Toyo Open country MT.... Any others?

Pyro1415
11-22-2015, 04:18 AM
I have noticed that the trail grapplers seem extremely popular, and that is probably why.




Normally? Nowhere yet, I have only been out once with the Jeep in the dunes. Since I have nowhere to call home as of yet, I am thinking a general offroad tire would be best to start with. I will admit, mudding doesn't seem to appealing to me.

Most trails become difficult with all terrains. Mud tires are made for a lot more than mud pits. That being said I have km2s 37x12.5x17 they measure 35.5/35.6 at 30psi mounted. I haven't gotten stuck once and they're boring in a group since the catch too quickly and won't let me sling mud everywhere.

I have no regrets with these tires although I'm thinking nitto exo's or ko2s for my winter tire.

SDG
11-22-2015, 04:58 AM
I have grapplers with 25k on them, and tread is not even 50% yet. They are super quiet on road and am very pleased so far. They are more quiet than my 31" bfgs on my truck.... Even the 40s are pretty damn quiet as compared to a lot of the other offerings.

CastleRockJeep
11-22-2015, 07:17 AM
We love Nittos at the shop. I have been daily driving 40" Trail Grapplers on Jefe for the last two years.

How do they do in the snow and ice?

JCDriller
11-22-2015, 10:22 AM
I've got 35" Trail Grapplers now, but I'm probably going to go with 37" TOYO RTs on my next set. A little lighter than the 35" TGs and better in snow/ice.

BlackHawk08jk
11-22-2015, 02:17 PM
If your not wheeling a lot or at all really I would recommend the nitro Tera grappler. I had a set on my jeep when I bought it and I got a lot of miles out of them. They perform great in all weather conditions and have a smooth ride.

wayoflife
11-22-2015, 02:36 PM
This has probably been asked somewhere between 10,000 and gazillion times in the past couple years, however with a recent surge of new tire releases arising , I will go ahead and ask again.

I am looking at 37's for my build. Originally I was going to go with the KO2, however due to the net size of 35.5 when mounted I was turned off. I don't have any experience with other tires so it's hard to make a decision on which to choose.

My question to you is: Given the current 37 inch offerings on the market, which tire would you choose for your daily driver?

Some things to consider:
A: Highway Noise, it can get old pretty quickly
B: Tread longevity, get the most out of the tire
C: Offroad capability, No sense in something that's only as good as a street tire
D: Overall value of the tire. Does the $500 tire offer more value than the $300 tire?
E: Highway handling.


Really looking forward to your response

Based on your "things to consider", I might recommend you give the new Toyo R/T's a look. They are available in a 37", have a tread pattern somewhere between an MT and an AT and come with a 45,000 warranty. Another good choice based on your "A" and "B" considerations is a BFG MT KO2. Of all the tires I have tested, I have found BFG's to wear like iron and while still being quite. You can easily get 60,000 miles out of them or more if you rotate on a regular basis. Nitto Trail Grapplers are great tires that are quite and do well off road and ones that I would recommend if you did more off roading but for your needs, I have found their tread life to last only about 40,000 at most.

CJW
11-22-2015, 03:41 PM
Based on your "things to consider", I might recommend you give the new Toyo R/T's a look. They are available in a 37", have a tread pattern somewhere between an MT and an AT and come with a 45,000 warranty. Another good choice based on your "A" and "B" considerations is a BFG MT KO2. Of all the tires I have tested, I have found BFG's to wear like iron and while still being quite. You can easily get 60,000 miles out of them or more if you rotate on a regular basis. Nitto Trail Grapplers are great tires that are quite and do well off road and ones that I would recommend if you did more off roading but for your needs, I have found their tread life to last only about 40,000 at most.

Do you know of anyone that has used the Toyos in snow and ice (on road)? I've been thinking of getting these since the on road snow performance of a mud terrain is typically below par. I only go off-roading about 12 times a year on difficult trails so am alright to think I wouldn't lose to much off road capability with a tire like this? I currently run nitro TGs and am considering a tire that would help more in the winters of CO.

Petzl88
11-22-2015, 04:53 PM
How do the trail grapplers do in the snow we have in Colorado? I want some but I am concerned with icy highway driving. I have the Duratracs now and wish they made them in 37s. I will have to look at those Toyos.

303DAILY
11-22-2015, 05:39 PM
I have run the KO2s in CO and was not a big fan, great tire but floated in snow. I have had good luck with the Goodyear Kevlar's but haven't had a set of trail grapplers. Those might be next

olram30
11-22-2015, 05:42 PM
This has probably been asked somewhere between 10,000 and gazillion times in the past couple years, however with a recent surge of new tire releases arising , I will go ahead and ask again.

I am looking at 37's for my build. Originally I was going to go with the KO2, however due to the net size of 35.5 when mounted I was turned off. I don't have any experience with other tires so it's hard to make a decision on which to choose.

My question to you is: Given the current 37 inch offerings on the market, which tire would you choose for your daily driver?

Some things to consider:
A: Highway Noise, it can get old pretty quickly
B: Tread longevity, get the most out of the tire
C: Offroad capability, No sense in something that's only as good as a street tire
D: Overall value of the tire. Does the $500 tire offer more value than the $300 tire?
E: Highway handling.


Really looking forward to your response

Almost all 37" tires measure 35.5" so I wouldn't let that be a deciding factor. I run nitto tg. No complaints

rogerk93
11-22-2015, 05:59 PM
This has probably been asked somewhere between 10,000 and gazillion times in the past couple years, however with a recent surge of new tire releases arising , I will go ahead and ask again.

I am looking at 37's for my build. Originally I was going to go with the KO2, however due to the net size of 35.5 when mounted I was turned off. I don't have any experience with other tires so it's hard to make a decision on which to choose.

My question to you is: Given the current 37 inch offerings on the market, which tire would you choose for your daily driver?

Some things to consider:
A: Highway Noise, it can get old pretty quickly
B: Tread longevity, get the most out of the tire
C: Offroad capability, No sense in something that's only as good as a street tire
D: Overall value of the tire. Does the $500 tire offer more value than the $300 tire?
E: Highway handling.


Really looking forward to your response

I have the bfg km2 they are a pretty good tire all around. They handle surprisingly very well on dry pavement, they suck when it rains heavy tho I spin my tires almost all the time especially on hills not too much but enough to become annoying. Did great in the snow never had an issue with that. These tires aren't a fan of ice but what m/t are. I have 20,000 on these so far and think I can get another 10,000 if I'm lucky. They are great off-road they haven't failed me yet. The side walls are pretty solid. They had a fair share of hits and is fine.It is a pretty rough riding tire. They are on my daily driver and I would consider buying again.

Strike Force Zebra
11-22-2015, 06:53 PM
I ran a set of 35" KM2's. They hooked up great in the sandstone, sucked on snow and wore terrible. They were loud too( not Nike mud grapplers loud though). The new designed BFG's are wearing awesome I hear.

Rubi3
11-22-2015, 07:26 PM
I'm wondering what the difference may be in MPG between a 35" Nitto Trail Grappler and a 37".

I'm planning a build for my semi DD 2016 and am wondering gas wise, gear wise, etc. what to expect. The Jeep will be a 2016 Unlimited Rubicon manual transmission with 4.10 gears.

aaronstephen
11-22-2015, 07:29 PM
Anyone have any experience with the Falken AT in the snow?

CJW
11-22-2015, 07:59 PM
How do the trail grapplers do in the snow we have in Colorado? I want some but I am concerned with icy highway driving. I have the Duratracs now and wish they made them in 37s. I will have to look at those Toyos.

They do well in deep slushy stuff but suck on ice. In 4x4 though it does just fine.

jeeeep
11-22-2015, 10:16 PM
Anyone have any experience with the Falken AT in the snow?

I ran the falken wildpeaks and didn't like them in the snow, they're good on wet and dry but gave no traction in the snow. when in Colorado during a storm i was going so slow and was still losing traction. now running bfg KO2 and they do great

Pyro1415
11-22-2015, 10:41 PM
You guys need to realize the only things that work on ice are an actual winter tires or chains. Winter tires being a compound specific stud less or studded tire, all seasons/ all terrains won't touch a blizzak or nokian winter on ice. That being said I ran mud tires all last winter, only had a few check my pants moments...

Journeyman
11-22-2015, 11:02 PM
Hi everyone, new guy here.
I've got about 8k on my 35x12.50 toyo rt's. Love them so far! My only regret is that I didn't get the 37's. We just road tripped them from Julian, ca on a 5,000 mi trip through Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Oregon and Washington with many side trips that were Offroad of course. We towed our little m-416 with RTT with no issues. I ran these at 15psi in Moab with no beadlocks. Last wknd out in the desert I dropped them to 10psi with no issues. They are all season rated (m&s) so the rubber won't freeze in cold conditions, unlike my last set of bfg mud terrains. Nice and quiet on the hwy so far.

jeeeep
11-23-2015, 12:09 AM
You guys need to realize the only things that work on ice are an actual winter tires or chains. Winter tires being a compound specific stud less or studded tire, all seasons/ all terrains won't touch a blizzak or nokian winter on ice. That being said I ran mud tires all last winter, only had a few check my pants moments...

the new compound on the KO2 is a lot better than the older KOs. so far I've been happy with how they handle in the snow.

Pyro1415
11-23-2015, 12:11 AM
the new compound on the KO2 is a lot better than the older KOs. so far I've been happy with how they handle in the snow.

No I mean a cold weather compound and ice and snow are two very different things. At usually do really well in snow. I'm talking about when you hit a slab of black ice.

Clifford33
11-23-2015, 12:39 AM
I have the BFGs but man they are wearing so slow and I drive a lot. I'm wanting new tires but I'm waiting for these to wear so I can move up to either 35s or 37s

Pyro1415
11-23-2015, 12:46 AM
I have the BFGs but man they are wearing so slow and I drive a lot. I'm wanting new tires but I'm waiting for these to wear so I can move up to either 35s or 37s

Sell them and buy what you want. The stock tires worn usually go for 250 to 350 on cl.

Clifford33
11-23-2015, 12:48 AM
Well I was thinking about re-gearing first. Yeah I could do that. I'm running a 16 wheel right now and want to go to a 17 so I can fit the right size tire.

Pyro1415
11-23-2015, 01:15 AM
Well I was thinking about re-gearing first. Yeah I could do that. I'm running a 16 wheel right now and want to go to a 17 so I can fit the right size tire.

Oh the stock 16's yeah man put em on cl for 100 and enjoy the new shoes. Id take a look at the new mopar beadlocks they're pretty affordable. Make sure you give a detailed review lol.

Clifford33
11-23-2015, 01:21 AM
I have the pro comps right now . I love them but hate the 16 size I can't get 35s or 37s with a 16

TrailRidden
11-23-2015, 01:36 AM
I have to second the suggestion for the new toyo R/T. Perfect tire to meet your list of concerns.

Pyro1415
11-23-2015, 02:51 AM
I have the pro comps right now . I love them but hate the 16 size I can't get 35s or 37s with a 16

Ah ok yeah if you live in a snowy area get some 35ATs which do come in 16s and then when you get 17s buy some 3 season MTs.

Clifford33
11-23-2015, 02:59 AM
I'm looking at the toyo Mts and the nitto trail grapplers . But yeah I'll check out the ATs .

n3tfury
11-23-2015, 01:06 PM
Another vote for Nitto Trail Grapplers. Great on the freeway at 80 and do very well offroad (Southwest US).

Zstairlessone
11-23-2015, 01:39 PM
I ran BFG KOs in the mountains up in Colorado, worked well in summer and great in winter. You might put the new KO2s in your to consider pile

muddy_anvil
11-23-2015, 01:42 PM
How do the trail grapplers handle in the mud?

flectarn
11-23-2015, 03:38 PM
I have to second the suggestion for the new toyo R/T. Perfect tire to meet your list of concerns.

I was checking them out after Eddy's suggestion, and they definitely seem appealing!

wayoflife
11-23-2015, 03:45 PM
Do you know of anyone that has used the Toyos in snow and ice (on road)? I've been thinking of getting these since the on road snow performance of a mud terrain is typically below par. I only go off-roading about 12 times a year on difficult trails so am alright to think I wouldn't lose to much off road capability with a tire like this? I currently run nitro TGs and am considering a tire that would help more in the winters of CO.

Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to test these tires out but as is the case with any tire, the more siping you have, the better they will do in snow and ice. The RT's have a lot more siping than the Trail Grapplers and so they should offer better performance.

hhunter050
11-23-2015, 10:10 PM
I have 37x13.50r17 Cooper Stts. Started at exactly 37" tread depth around 1" and I'm at 20k miles at 36 3/4"

Greg__Berger
11-23-2015, 11:05 PM
I have 37x13.50r17 Cooper Stts. Started at exactly 37" tread depth around 1" and I'm at 20k miles at 36 3/4"

I just mounted a set of Cooper STT Pros 37x12.50r17 and they were 36.25" when mounted. Only got to drive it a little bit since then, but they've seem pretty quiet so far and look like they will handle wet weather and snow very well with the siping and I'm looking forward to trying them out offroad.

hhunter050
11-24-2015, 01:09 AM
I just mounted a set of Cooper STT Pros 37x12.50r17 and they were 36.25" when mounted. Only got to drive it a little bit since then, but they've seem pretty quiet so far and look like they will handle wet weather and snow very well with the siping and I'm looking forward to trying them out offroad.

The STTs do great so I'm sure the pros will too

Greg__Berger
11-24-2015, 02:16 AM
The STTs do great so I'm sure the pros will too

[emoji106]🏻 (10 char)

JayKay
11-24-2015, 02:38 AM
I just mounted a set of Cooper STT Pros 37x12.50r17 and they were 36.25" when mounted. Only got to drive it a little bit since then, but they've seem pretty quiet so far and look like they will handle wet weather and snow very well with the siping and I'm looking forward to trying them out offroad.

Why would you go with those junk tires????

Heavyhaul07
11-24-2015, 03:58 AM
I have the stt's and they sucked in the snow a few weeks ago here in Colorado.

Greg__Berger
11-24-2015, 04:32 AM
Why would you go with those junk tires????

High pressure salesman [emoji23]

mds22
11-24-2015, 04:55 AM
Anyone run BFG Km2 37"?? Load D and only around 65lbs sounds interesting. Heard they aren't great in rain, any experience?

flectarn
11-24-2015, 05:51 AM
Why would you go with those junk tires????


What's the issue?

tlower07
11-24-2015, 08:20 AM
I have the stt pros. Seem to be pretty quiet so far. Been good offroad so far too. They do good in wet weather, but haven't had any snow to test them in yet.

JayKay
11-24-2015, 11:24 AM
What's the issue?

Inside joke

flectarn
11-24-2015, 04:32 PM
Inside joke

That's what I was thinking. It's a bit confusing to those of us outside the joke. ;)

JayKay
11-24-2015, 05:17 PM
That's what I was thinking. It's a bit confusing to those of us outside the joke. ;)

Guess if I would've put some of these at the end...[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]...it would've been easier for everyone to read the sarcasm, my bad

Zstairlessone
11-25-2015, 01:54 PM
Anyone run BFG Km2 37"?? Load D and only around 65lbs sounds interesting. Heard they aren't great in rain, any experience?
Mine (not in 37" size) were pretty scary at times the few rains in the Southern Cal desert. Also not very good on the 58 coming out of Tehachapi in snow. Other than that I love mine and they are growing larger every tire change.