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Thegreenmachine12
02-10-2017, 03:41 AM
As many of you know, the Wrangler is the preferred tow vehicle of choice because of just how little you have to modify it to tow behind a motorhome.

I tow my 2012 behind my motorhome, which is a 2014 Tiffin Motorhomes Allegro Bus 45LP with the 8.9 ISL 450hp Cummins diesel.

The only modifications I currently have done to my Jeep for flat towing are a flush mounted light outlet in the front bumper, and it's wired for lights throughout the Jeep.

If you have a JK with an automatic transmission, you can tow it with the transmission in Park, transfer case in neutral, and key removed. The steering will not lock while being towed. I also have an adapter to compensate for the height of the Jeep.

I flat towed the Jeep all the way from Florida to Moab for the 2016 EJS and she towed beautifully!

Here is my setup:

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MrEmmDubya
02-10-2017, 04:04 AM
Now that is a fun setup.... A cabin that you take to the places you want to drive your Jeep.

Labricon
02-10-2017, 04:27 AM
Great looking setup! What hitch system are you using?


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RSQCON
02-10-2017, 05:55 AM
Looks great. Any reason you choose to flat tow instead of on a trailer?


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Thegreenmachine12
02-10-2017, 05:18 PM
Looks great. Any reason you choose to flat tow instead of on a trailer?


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Flat towing is easier! The moment you arrive, it's only about 2 minutes to have the Jeep disconnected and ready to drive!

LarryG
02-26-2017, 11:44 AM
As many of you know, the Wrangler is the preferred tow vehicle of choice because of just how little you have to modify it to tow behind a motorhome.

I tow my 2012 behind my motorhome, which is a 2014 Tiffin Motorhomes Allegro Bus 45LP with the 8.9 ISL 450hp Cummins diesel.

The only modifications I currently have done to my Jeep for flat towing are a flush mounted light outlet in the front bumper, and it's wired for lights throughout the Jeep.

If you have a JK with an automatic transmission, you can tow it with the transmission in Park, transfer case in neutral, and key removed. The steering will not lock while being towed. I also have an adapter to compensate for the height of the Jeep.

I flat towed the Jeep all the way from Florida to Moab for the 2016 EJS and she towed beautifully!

Here is my setup:

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We have a Tiffin Allegro Bus as well. It's a 2013, 43'. We have our 2016 JKUR set up for flat towing as well. I installed an AirForce One supplemental braking system, and it is a sweet set up. I decided to get a short 14' flat trailer to tow the 2015 JK that I recently completed (if you can ever say you are done). I really like the convenience of flat towing, but wanted to try to "be a bit easier" on the Jeep by trailering it. We also travel across the country, and having a disabled vehicle that can not be towed caused me concern. EJS will be our first trip with the new rig and trailer, so I will have a good idea of the choice I made. I know it will be a pain to find a spot to put the trailer at destinations, and I added a tow hitch to the Jeep as I KNOW we will find ourselves needing to maneuver the trailer and that won't happen with the Bus.

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2011jk
02-26-2017, 03:54 PM
Dam, living the life...I've been wanting a 42' Country Coach Affinity since 2002..their finally getting cheep enough to get one. Only issue now is the $$ to feed it:eek:.

Someday ...

Labricon
02-28-2017, 12:33 AM
Joining the club March 5 when I pick up my "new to me" motorhome


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scrota76
02-28-2017, 02:05 AM
Anyone towing with the Ford F-450 V10? I'm not a 1%er, so i couldn't afford the 450 HP diesel pictured above, yeah I'm jealous. I have a 33' and it has a 5000 lb hitch. I just don't know if i have the juice to tow a Jeep JKU.

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RSQCON
03-03-2017, 02:23 AM
I decided to get a short 14' flat trailer to tow the 2015 JK that I recently completed (if you can ever say you are done). I really like the convenience of flat towing, but wanted to try to "be a bit easier" on the Jeep by trailering it. We also travel across the country, and having a disabled vehicle that can not be towed caused me concern.
I think you made a wise decision. I have no experience since we have a fifth wheel but we are strongly reconsidering now that we have a Jeep. Looking at moving to a Super C and if that happens I would certainly tow a trailer for a variety of reasons...broken rig, tire wear on Jeep vs trailer, etc. I can see it being a little bit of a pain finding a spot for the trailer on occasion but still worth it in the long run I think.

p38
04-27-2017, 04:21 PM
Very nice set-up. I just did the EJS in Moab, trailered my jeep behind my F250 6.7. I have a Featherlite 18' 3110 flatbed trailer. No problems going up and over the Sierras, and was able to run 75-80 through NV and UT. Stayed in a motel, but spent quite a bit of time in the evenings outside by the truck/trailer enjoying a cigar and a cocktail. So, started thinking about ways to make that a bit more comfortable. Looking at RV's, what I have found so far, the Allegro Bus offers the shortest RV with the most HP and towing capacity. My jeep will not flat tow, so I am stuck with 20' of trailer; a 40' RV puts me too close to the max vehicle limits here in CA. The 37' Allegro looks like a good choice. Would you have any comments on what to look for, do you stay in the RV at jeep events or in a motel, any reason why this is a bad choice?

Thanks

HoosierWolf
04-27-2017, 06:03 PM
Anyone towing with the Ford F-450 V10? I'm not a 1%er, so i couldn't afford the 450 HP diesel pictured above, yeah I'm jealous. I have a 33' and it has a 5000 lb hitch. I just don't know if i have the juice to tow a Jeep JKU.

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Sorry replied to the wrong post. Try this again.

I've been looking into this and I think you are pushing the limits with the V10. I think they are only rated for 5000 lbs (and that includes all the stuff you are hauling). Because of this I've been looking pretty hard at diesel Super Cs like the Thor 35 footers. I really want 10k towing capacity and an RV 30 ft or under but I don't think it is made expect super expensive stuff like Earth Roamers. You may want to check out the Thor diesel super Cs.

jk-pabe
04-28-2017, 04:16 AM
Anyone towing with the Ford F-450 V10? I'm not a 1%er, so i couldn't afford the 450 HP diesel pictured above, yeah I'm jealous. I have a 33' and it has a 5000 lb hitch. I just don't know if i have the juice to tow a Jeep JKU.

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I have a 30' Ford F-450, V10 motor home that we flat tow our 4d jk. Our RV can tow up to 7500 lbs. I don't even feel it behind us! I use a road master tow bar along with the Patriot braking system.255831

HoosierWolf
04-28-2017, 12:15 PM
JK-Pabe - Nice! I'm really wanting to stay under 30 ft myself. I may need to go check these out. 7500 lbs would work nicely even if I add on a couple dirt bikes.

jk-pabe
04-28-2017, 03:07 PM
JK-Pabe - Nice! I'm really wanting to stay under 30 ft myself. I may need to go check these out. 7500 lbs would work nicely even if I add on a couple dirt bikes.
The model of RV we have came in two chassis the Chevy was rated to tow 5,000 lbs and the Ford chassis is rated for 7,500 lbs.

HoosierWolf
04-28-2017, 05:20 PM
Thank you for the info. I'm going to be doing a lot of RV shopping in the next year while we make some decision. This really helps.

JKbrick
04-29-2017, 12:35 AM
Thank you for the info. I'm going to be doing a lot of RV shopping in the next year while we make some decision. This really helps.

A friend of mine has a motor home for sale in Ft Wayne, your in Indy? I'll be in Indy over the weekend but if you want details of it I can get them for you monday


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Labricon
05-02-2017, 11:58 PM
Our is 38 ft with GM 8.1 L and Allison transmission rated to tow 6000 lbs. Today was our first small voyage with the Jeep in tow. All went pretty smoothly. Saturday we will give it a much bigger test and head out to BC256581


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HoosierWolf
05-10-2017, 12:27 PM
A friend of mine has a motor home for sale in Ft Wayne, your in Indy? I'll be in Indy over the weekend but if you want details of it I can get them for you monday


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Sorry, I didn't even see this post until now. I'm not ready to pull the trigger yet anyway. Still deciding what we want.

Boondocker Farms
11-20-2017, 02:33 AM
This is our set up, I installed the wiring kit from Jeep for the brake/turn/running lights, installed a M&G Brake System (very slick!!) and Rock Hard Connects on the bumper to attach to the Demco Tow Bar. 283508

TrailHunter
11-20-2017, 02:46 AM
Cool thread... I was just talking about this today... I would like to flat tow mine a couple times a Year with a rental RV:
1. Can I hook up directly to an EVO 1/4 bumper?
2. What is the best tow kit to buy?
3. Is there a specific wiring kit I need?
4. Does the Rv need to have special wiring? Meaning a rental will not be equipped...?

Sorry for all the questions... Thanks

Boondocker Farms
11-20-2017, 03:08 AM
Cool thread... I was just talking about this today... I would like to flat tow mine a couple times a Year with a rental RV:
1. Can I hook up directly to an EVO 1/4 bumper?
2. What is the best tow kit to buy?
3. Is there a specific wiring kit I need?
4. Does the Rv need to have special wiring? Meaning a rental will not be equipped...?

Sorry for all the questions... Thanks

1. You need a spot on your evo 1/4 to attach mounts, Check out Rock Hard, they make specific mounts for various brands of tow bars
2. I use Demco, works great, been using their products for 10+ years behind 2 different motorhomes
3. Jeep sells a kit #82211156AB that plugs into existing wiring harness under dash for brake/turn/running lights
4. If the RV has a trailer towing package then u can pull your jeep as long as the RV has a combined rating to do so

TrailHunter
11-20-2017, 03:11 AM
1. You need a spot on your evo 1/4 to attach mounts, Check out Rock Hard, they make specific mounts for various brands of tow bars
2. I use Demco, works great, been using their products for 10+ years behind 2 different motorhomes
3. Jeep sells a kit #82211156AB that plugs into existing wiring harness under dash for brake/turn/running lights
4. If the RV has a trailer towing package then u can pull your jeep as long as the RV has a combined rating to do so

Perfect... That will get me going on my searches! Thank you so much!

Breer
11-20-2017, 01:50 PM
Cool thread... I was just talking about this today... I would like to flat tow mine a couple times a Year with a rental RV:
1. Can I hook up directly to an EVO 1/4 bumper?
2. What is the best tow kit to buy?
3. Is there a specific wiring kit I need?
4. Does the Rv need to have special wiring? Meaning a rental will not be equipped...?

Sorry for all the questions... Thanks
On 1. If you have d ring mounts on your Evo 1/4, you could do what I did. I bought a tow bar that has adjustable arms and adapters to mount the bar to the d ring tabs. I have the warrior products adapters.

Not sure on the others as I have a wireless brake light setup and just tow the cj around with that.

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TrailHunter
11-20-2017, 03:17 PM
On 1. If you have d ring mounts on your Evo 1/4, you could do what I did. I bought a tow bar that has adjustable arms and adapters to mount the bar to the d ring tabs. I have the warrior products adapters.

Not sure on the others as I have a wireless brake light setup and just tow the cj around with that.

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Iíll look into that... thanks!!

Ddays
11-20-2017, 04:02 PM
Cool thread... I was just talking about this today... I would like to flat tow mine a couple times a Year with a rental RV:

Make sure towing is permitted by the rental company upfront. A lot of them do not allow this. I looked into a rental a couple years ago and ran into this.

TrailHunter
11-21-2017, 09:44 AM
Make sure towing is permitted by the rental company upfront. A lot of them do not allow this. I looked into a rental a couple years ago and ran into this.

For Sure... thanks

Boondocker Farms
11-22-2017, 03:03 AM
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Maybe this is an option for ya :thinking:


Cool thread... I was just talking about this today... I would like to flat tow mine a couple times a Year with a rental RV:
1. Can I hook up directly to an EVO 1/4 bumper?
2. What is the best tow kit to buy?
3. Is there a specific wiring kit I need?
4. Does the Rv need to have special wiring? Meaning a rental will not be equipped...?

Sorry for all the questions... Thanks

TrailHunter
11-22-2017, 03:10 AM
Maybe this is an option for ya :thinking:

HAHA! .... I have a buddy that would totally do that.

LBK Bud
12-07-2017, 04:38 AM
I bought the '15 JKU to tow behind our motorhome when we retired

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2012 Newmar 38' Dutch Star.

Took it on a 4 month trip and really enjoyed having the jeep. Big Bend, Tucson, Death Valley, Mt Ranier in the snow to name a few places

We decided to downsize the RV and got a Roadtrek Sprinter based. It could tow the Jeep but the tow capacity is 5000 lbs, too close to the Jeep weight, especially when we go across the Rockies. It also had some persistant electrical issues.

We just traded the Roadtrek for a Dynamax Isata 5. Built on a Ram 5500 chassis. Cummins power and 10000 # towing. We won't get until late spring, plan on going to Moab on our first big trip. :D

AZ Explorer
12-07-2017, 11:43 PM
I don't have an RV but do fantasize about getting one when I retire. I really like the Jayco/Seneca style freightliner conversions, It's kind of my ultimate dream vehicle. My work truck is the same cabstyle in a flatbed about the same length so I could step into it like driving my pickup.
Would love to tour the country on my own time with the Jeep on a trailer. I could see spending a couple months out of the year running coast to coast checking out America's hidden gems. On and off the trail.
Bucket list thing I guess.

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eatinbiskit
01-03-2018, 05:13 PM
Hello all. I am planning on moving to the west coast in the near future. I was recently told by a mechanic that I trust to give me the unvarnished truth that I could not flat tow my 2015 JKU. Then I read this post.
I have an automatic transmission with that goofy optional shift to manual. Is that the issue?


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BaddestCross
01-03-2018, 05:31 PM
Hello all. I am planning on moving to the west coast in the near future. I was recently told by a mechanic that I trust to give me the unvarnished truth that I could not flat tow my 2015 JKU. Then I read this post.
I have an automatic transmission with that goofy optional shift to manual. Is that the issue?


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You'd better rethink your trust in that mechanic. Read the first post in this thread... Tranny in park, transfer case in neutral and you're good to go.

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black pearl
01-03-2018, 08:28 PM
Hello all. I am planning on moving to the west coast in the near future. I was recently told by a mechanic that I trust to give me the unvarnished truth that I could not flat tow my 2015 JKU. Then I read this post.
I have an automatic transmission with that goofy optional shift to manual. Is that the issue?


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You'd better rethink your trust in that mechanic. Read the first post in this thread... Tranny in park, transfer case in neutral and you're good to go.

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Have you read your manual? It says the same thing baddestCross just posted. The mechanic doesn't seem to know about this situation.


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duktrx
01-04-2018, 01:33 AM
Mopar actually makes a harness that connects in to use the jeep lights when flat towing. Seem to remember it connects behind glove box, routes to the front bumper. Plugs into a 7 flat of tow vehicle.

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eatinbiskit
01-04-2018, 12:37 PM
Thanks for the reply. I don't think he was being shady but it does make me reconsider the trust in a couple of areas.


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Labricon
01-04-2018, 02:17 PM
BaddestCross is 100% correct. The manual provides detailed instruction for flat towing your Jeep. I have a 15 JKUR automatic and so far this year I have towed mine 3k miles without issue


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MTG
04-29-2018, 06:29 PM
Bumping this thread up.

I'm quite a few years off (maybe) from buying an RV and cruising the US, but I would like to hear more stories/experiences from people who are.

Favorite places? Places to avoid? Must do's/have's? Thing's you'd do different? etc...

wibornz
08-06-2018, 01:25 AM
Yup. Need to hear more from people that are traveling in an RV with a Jeep behind it. Give up the stories folks.

Labricon
08-09-2018, 04:20 AM
Biggest thing to avoid is places where you canít keep moving forward. You cannot back up your motor home with your Jeep (or other towed vehicle attached). Because the steering on the Jeep is not locked it will jack knife in a heartbeat. Other than that it is a breeze.


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Zstairlessone
04-28-2019, 12:28 AM
My parents flat towed their TJ for years behind their motor home until they sold the camper a few years back. They had a big flap built across the whole back of the camper because the Jeep would always get rocked bad, and usually crack a windshield on almost every trip.

Being true Jeepers, when it came to a choice they got rid of the motor home and kept the jeep


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Brute
04-28-2019, 12:46 AM
Yup. Need to hear more from people that are traveling in an RV with a Jeep behind it. Give up the stories folks.

I already had a RV and recently purchased a JLR. Flat towing(not my 1st rodeo flat towed a Willys for years) a 4,000 lb. vehicle today requires a more evolved tow system than back in the day. I researched for days, finally pulled the trigger and purchased a Blue Ox tow system comprised of Patriot II aux. braking and their Alpha 6 6,500 lb. tow bar. For plug and play wiring I installed a Cool Tech deluxe flat tow harness kit in my JLR. All for around $2G . I am not saying this is the ticket, just what I ended up with and it works flawlessly. I just returned from a 1,600 mile road trip to Moab and back. On interstate at 70 mph or poking along on gravel/dirt to campsite, I really didnít know the JL was back there(except for rear camera). Once all set up(installed), hook up is quick, less than 5 mins. and your headed safely and legally down the road.
Iíve never owned a trailer for hauling a Jeep and donít want one either. Costs more, needs a license, maintenance and a place to park.
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This was one of my other flat tow setups I ran for years. Made my own tow bar, bumpers and wiring harness. No aux. braking system needed. Willys wagon had big 4 wheel disc brakes conversion and a T18 4 spd. manual trans. for down hills speed control. AMC 360 v8 for uphill.
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Thatís my story and Iím sticking by it. :yup:[/QUOTE]

Loving that Willyís Wagon...where is it now?

sourdough
04-29-2019, 02:06 AM
delete delete delete

wjtstudios
04-29-2019, 11:56 AM
Thanks. It has been living in Anaconda, Montana. these last 7 years. I had it for 24 yrs. and was sorry to let it go. I got old and tired of tent camping and moved to RVís. here are some more pictures.
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I drool every time you post up pictures of that beauty!


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jdofmemi
04-29-2019, 01:07 PM
Thanks. It has been living in Anaconda, Montana. these last 7 years. I had it for 24 yrs. and was sorry to let it go. I got old and tired of tent camping and moved to RVís. here are some more pictures.
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Trailer I built out of a willys truck bed
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Love that build.

Each time you show it, we get a few more treats.

What is the lever on the gearshift for, an overdrive unit or something else?

sourdough
04-29-2019, 02:06 PM
Love that build.

Each time you show it, we get a few more treats.

What is the lever on the gearshift for, an overdrive unit or something else?

Hand throttle.

jesse3638
04-29-2019, 08:13 PM
What was deleted?

fiend
04-29-2019, 08:45 PM
What was deleted?

He said it was a hand throttle.


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jesse3638
04-30-2019, 12:38 AM
Seems he went through and deleted all of his posts. Weird.

wjtstudios
04-30-2019, 01:13 AM
Seems he went through and deleted all of his posts. Weird.

Yeah, very odd


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fiend
04-30-2019, 01:34 AM
Seems he went through and deleted all of his posts. Weird.


Yeah, very odd


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Maybe because of this.

https://wayalife.com/showthread.php?t=57191


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wjtstudios
04-30-2019, 01:37 AM
Maybe because of this.

https://wayalife.com/showthread.php?t=57191


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Yup, all cleared up


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jdofmemi
04-30-2019, 01:46 AM
Maybe because of this.

https://wayalife.com/showthread.php?t=57191


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I suspected there was drama involved.

Seemed like a nice enough guy, right up to that point.

jesse3638
04-30-2019, 02:37 AM
Yeah I figured there was something like that. Idiot.

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JJ151
05-03-2019, 09:27 PM
Is there anyone out there flat towing their jeep and have a ram assist on their Jeep? I have been flat towing jeeps for 15 years but none of my jeeps have had a ram assist installed. I am currently installing a PSC steering system with ram assist and someone mentioned that I could no longer flat tow the jeep. I contacted PSC and they did not believe it would be a problem and have customers that flat tow their jeep with ram assist. PSC did indicate that they have a few customers that are sure you can’t flat tow with a ram assist and PSC’s recommendation was to just loosen the tie rod clamp to free float on the tie rod.

1.) Is is ok to flat tow with a ram assist on the Jeep?
2.) If not, is it ok to flat tow with a ram assist w/tie rod clamp loosened to free float on tie rod?

Anyone with first hand experience with flat towing a jeep with ram assist is appreciated. Thanks!

nbunga
05-03-2019, 09:41 PM
Is there anyone out there flat towing their jeep and have a ram assist on their Jeep? I have been flat towing jeeps for 15 years but none of my jeeps have had a ram assist installed. I am currently installing a PSC steering system with ram assist and someone mentioned that I could no longer flat tow the jeep. I contacted PSC and they did not believe it would be a problem and have customers that flat tow their jeep with ram assist. PSC did indicate that they have a few customers that are sure you canít flat tow with a ram assist and PSCís recommendation was to just loosen the tie rod clamp to free float on the tie rod.

1.) Is is ok to flat tow with a ram assist on the Jeep?
2.) If not, is it ok to flat tow with a ram assist w/tie rod clamp loosened to free float on tie rod?

Anyone with first hand experience with flat towing a jeep with ram assist is appreciated. Thanks!

I canít answer your question but was wondering, is the steering wheel locked when you flat tow?

Jaybird 11
05-03-2019, 09:51 PM
I canít answer your question but was wondering, is the steering wheel locked when you flat tow?
No its not. Must be unlocked. It will chew up your front tires if you do.

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nbunga
05-03-2019, 10:46 PM
No its not. Must be unlocked. It will chew up your front tires if you do.

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Ok thanks. I always wondered about that.

JJ151
05-04-2019, 11:15 PM
Has anyone on this Forum flat towed a Jeep that has ram assist steering?


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Moochie
05-04-2019, 11:57 PM
Has anyone on this Forum flat towed a Jeep that has ram assist steering?


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I have for 7 years with no issues.


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JJ151
05-05-2019, 01:55 AM
Good to know! What size tire are you running? Iím currently running 37s but am considering moving up to 40s. Do you think that will be a problem?


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72blubyu
08-29-2019, 02:19 AM
Moochie

What front bumper set up do you have to flat tow with or do you use a mount?

Moochie
08-29-2019, 03:58 AM
Moochie

What front bumper set up do you have to flat tow with or do you use a mount?

I use these Roadmaster brackets, which had to be modified slightly to work below my LOD bumper. My tow bar is a Falcon 2. A local to me welding shop that does a lot of tow bar installations did the modifications.

https://www.roadmasterinc.com/pdfinst/1430-3.pdf

I can get you some photos tomorrow.

72blubyu
09-03-2019, 01:59 AM
I use these Roadmaster brackets, which had to be modified slightly to work below my LOD bumper. My tow bar is a Falcon 2. A local to me welding shop that does a lot of tow bar installations did the modifications.

https://www.roadmasterinc.com/pdfinst/1430-3.pdf

I can get you some photos tomorrow.

Thank you for the info
LOD seams to do a nice set up for flat towing