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Thegreenmachine12
01-30-2018, 05:55 PM
A friend of mine on facebook posted today that his brand new JL died on the side of the road and wouldnít start! Had it towed to the dealer. Iíll post updates with the diagnosis.

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sipafz
01-30-2018, 06:00 PM
This is why a first model year is not for me. I have personally experienced something similar and have learned to wait a few years. That being said, the JLU is tempting!

GraniteCrystal
01-30-2018, 06:01 PM
That sucks. 6 miles.

cozdude
01-30-2018, 06:07 PM
You donít have to say a friend of yours lol itís Globex Performance in NJ
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TheGrendel
01-30-2018, 06:09 PM
This is why a first model year is not for me. I have personally experienced something similar and have learned to wait a few years. That being said, the JLU is tempting!

what do you mean first model year? JK's and Ram trucks are still self-immolating and they have been on the road over a decade. :cheesy:

WJCO
01-30-2018, 06:12 PM
Worked in the dealers for years. Sadly shit like this can happen on any model. Good thing there's a warranty. Hopefully someone reports what is found out though so others here can know what it was.

sipafz
01-30-2018, 06:22 PM
what do you mean first model year? JK's and Ram trucks are still self-immolating and they have been on the road over a decade. :cheesy:

New transmission, new electronics, newly designed parts = new problems. Hopefully the JL wonít have many issues. Time will tell...

hinrichs
01-30-2018, 06:23 PM
You donít have to say a friend of yours lol itís Globex Performance in NJ

Well they are probably facebook friends so its legit his friend :thumb:

wayoflife
01-30-2018, 06:27 PM
Bummer.....

TrailHunter
01-30-2018, 06:42 PM
Maybe the Jeep overheard him talking about 20Ē wheels and fab fours bumpers and was like.. ďF#@K that, Iím outĒ

TheGrendel
01-30-2018, 06:53 PM
New transmission, new electronics, newly designed parts = new problems. Hopefully the JL wonít have many issues. Time will tell...

it was tongue in cheek. we're talking about FCA products here. issues sadly come with the territory.

sipafz
01-30-2018, 06:56 PM
it was tongue in cheek. we're talking about FCA products here. issues sadly come with the territory.

I figured as much! Itís hard to pick up on the sarcasm sometimes [emoji482].

Rubicon310
01-30-2018, 06:57 PM
Maybe the Jeep overheard him talking about 20Ē wheels and fab fours bumpers and was like.. ďF#@K that, Iím outĒ

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BaddestCross
01-30-2018, 07:06 PM
Probably stopped too close to the toll booth. 😎

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01-30-2018, 07:15 PM
Probably stopped too close to the toll booth. 😎

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LAMO... If that was really the cause! :naw:

KJs JK
01-30-2018, 07:24 PM
I just watched the "Dirt Every Day" extra where Frank goes over the new JL axles at Dynatrac. The Dynatrac pro goes through all of the changes Jeep had to make to comply with the CAFE standards, which seemed to be the rhyme and reason for the JL. Very interesting to hear how much pressure Jeep is getting to improve fuel economy, since all vehicles in a manufacturers lineup must average some arbitrary number by a certain date, and how Jeep has attempted to solve them.

Mountainjk10
01-30-2018, 07:31 PM
^^^^^ scratching my head???


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wayoflife
01-30-2018, 07:32 PM
^^^^^ scratching my head???

:cheesy: Glad I wasn't the only one :crazyeyes:

WJCO
01-30-2018, 08:08 PM
I just watched the "Dirt Every Day" extra where Frank goes over the new JL axles at Dynatrac. The Dynatrac pro goes through all of the changes Jeep had to make to comply with the CAFE standards, which seemed to be the rhyme and reason for the JL. Very interesting to hear how much pressure Jeep is getting to improve fuel economy, since all vehicles in a manufacturers lineup must average some arbitrary number by a certain date, and how Jeep has attempted to solve them.

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And who's Frank?

Thegreenmachine12
01-30-2018, 08:16 PM
You donít have to say a friend of yours lol itís Globex Performance in NJ
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Oh ok. I wasnít sure if I was allowed to include the company name or not so I just edited it out. Thanks for the heads up.


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Thegreenmachine12
01-30-2018, 08:17 PM
Well they are probably facebook friends so its legit his friend :thumb:

Youíre not officially friends until itís facebook official lol


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nbunga
01-30-2018, 08:56 PM
And who's Frank?[/QUOTE]

You don't know Frank!
And here I thought you were one of the inner circle guys around here.

Trail JK
01-30-2018, 09:00 PM
Maybe the Jeep overheard him talking about 20Ē wheels and fab fours bumpers and was like.. ďF#@K that, Iím outĒ

Lol [emoji23]


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Brute
01-30-2018, 09:03 PM
You donít have to say a friend of yours lol itís Globex Performance in NJ
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It's obvious...JL's are allergic to tolls...so am I

Sahara_Maverick
01-30-2018, 09:04 PM
I wonder if the wipers started working by themselves before the engine died.

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sparks
01-30-2018, 09:06 PM
He felt on top of the world for 6 miles.

Then, shattered.




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Maineiac
01-30-2018, 09:57 PM
6 miles? Even the 3.8 went 17 before dying!

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Emptybrass
01-30-2018, 10:12 PM
Makes me feel better making 15k in my eco diesel ram until it needing a new motor. As much as everyone wants a diesel wrangler I will never get a diesel again.


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Maineiac
01-30-2018, 10:17 PM
Makes me feel better making 15k in my eco diesel ram until it needing a new motor. As much as everyone wants a diesel wrangler I will never get a diesel again.


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I always liked diesel..well the 7.3 anyway :) had 2 f350's with 7.3 diesel. 1 frame rotted out but ran great with 255k when I sold it. The other when sold had 310k and never had major issues. I'll give the new JL diesel a few years (if it actually happens) before I decide.

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Emptybrass
01-30-2018, 10:20 PM
I always liked diesel..well the 7.3 anyway :) had 2 f350's with 7.3 diesel. 1 frame rotted out but ran great with 255k when I sold it. The other when sold had 310k and never had major issues. I'll give the new JL diesel a few years (if it actually happens) before I decide.

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I went thru the 6.0 issues at the dealer during that time. Then my first personal diesel vehicle needing that. The $200 oil changes, the def nonsense and fuel and water filter replacement every year. To me... Iíd rather do an ls swap.
EPA ruined them as far as Iím concerned.

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Maineiac
01-30-2018, 10:25 PM
Yea DEF sucks. I haven't owned a diesel since I sold my last F350. But the 7.3 didn't have to deal with DEF. But the 15 quarts or whatever of oil added up. But I only changed it every 10-12k, so it wasn't too bad. It also had a fuel water separator that I drained regularly and never changed fuel filter lol. But, the good old govt knows best and makes all these nasty EPA changes.

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JAGS
01-30-2018, 11:08 PM
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Clifford33
01-31-2018, 12:16 AM
Haha FRED!


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UtahJK
01-31-2018, 03:52 AM
I went thru the 6.0 issues at the dealer during that time. Then my first personal diesel vehicle needing that. The $200 oil changes, the def nonsense and fuel and water filter replacement every year. To me... Iíd rather do an ls swap.
EPA ruined them as far as Iím concerned.

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"6.0" nuff said. Haha
The 6.0 would ruin diesels for anybody. I love my fully deleted 6.7 Cummins and am excited to see the jeep diesel come to fruition.

Strike Force Zebra
01-31-2018, 04:15 AM
Sounds like a ďcommunication error between trans or shifter moduleĒ. Swapped him out a new one on the lot. Iím sure every model has hiccups now and then.


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Strodinator
01-31-2018, 04:38 AM
"6.0" nuff said. Haha
The 6.0 would ruin diesels for anybody. I love my fully deleted 6.7 Cummins and am excited to see the jeep diesel come to fruition.
Fully deleted 6.7's are so fun to drive. My dad's truck had everything deleted and a performance tune and it can fly if it needs to.

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wayoflife
01-31-2018, 03:32 PM
Back on topic for just a sec, I wonder if this may have anything to do with the start/stop function. Maybe it wouldn't start back up after coming to a stop.

VeruGE*144
01-31-2018, 03:36 PM
Lol, 6 miles [emoji23]
Thatís really sucks.


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Judesign
01-31-2018, 03:45 PM
Back on topic for just a sec, I wonder if this may have anything to do with the start/stop function. Maybe it wouldn't start back up after coming to a stop.

Thatís what I was thinking. I wonder if it still needs the security information from the keyfob in that situation and didnít get it?


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JKbrick
01-31-2018, 03:48 PM
^^^^^ scratching my head???


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:cheesy: Glad I wasn't the only one :crazyeyes:

They donít use gas if they arenít running?


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Samuelh3
01-31-2018, 04:34 PM
Maybe the Jeep overheard him talking about 20Ē wheels and fab fours bumpers and was like.. ďF#@K that, Iím outĒ

Bwahahaha!! Totally 🤣🤣


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98XJ06LJ
01-31-2018, 06:40 PM
I would assume that the neutral safety switch is no longer relevant with the start/stop feature seeing as that it now auto starts in gear. Times have definitely changed when the major contributing factor to being stranded on the side of the road is a software glitch instead of a mechanical failure...

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critter812
01-31-2018, 06:49 PM
Guess it was a communication issue with the trans or shifter module! instead of fixing it they swapped him into a different jeep!

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trailraider
01-31-2018, 08:26 PM
fuel mileage is really good. get 12 miles for the price of 6.

my interest is when will the first recall be out for it? i give it 2 weeks. and then how long to get it once announced.

jeeeep
01-31-2018, 09:12 PM
communication error...note to self - resist the urge to buy until there's a way to disable start/stop.

I'd prefer it to run until I shut it off

except I must say the white rubi I looked at looked good on me :doh:

I'd have Red, White and Blue Jeeps!

Sahara_Maverick
01-31-2018, 09:47 PM
It looks like Chrysler still could not figure these comm errors out until now, eh?

My 07 JKU had the comm error between the wiper module and TIPM that was causing the TIPM to go haywire and killing the engine, randomly.

After 11 years they still did not figure that out, and keep adding more crap prone to failure.

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KICKROX
01-31-2018, 10:53 PM
Well, with the blinkers being on the high fenders now.. maybe the blinker fluid is having a hard time getting to the blinkers and it just died. Damn blinker fluid... gets you every time.

Slavens
02-01-2018, 12:12 AM
Back on topic for just a sec, I wonder if this may have anything to do with the start/stop function. Maybe it wouldn't start back up after coming to a stop.
Actually you're onto something. Appears it was not the issue here but in the MINI'S and BMWs it was an issue for a while. Fixed with reprogramming. So we will probably hear it sooner rather than later.

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Recurve
02-01-2018, 12:42 AM
It looks like Chrysler still could not figure these comm errors out until now, eh?

My 07 JKU had the comm error between the wiper module and TIPM that was causing the TIPM to go haywire and killing the engine, randomly.

After 11 years they still did not figure that out, and keep adding more crap prone to failure.

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That sounds like a grounding issue.

My 08 shut off on me in the middle of downtown traffic. I got it off the road, when I turned my ignition my wipers would turn on. I figured had to been a loose ground.
Low an behold I started pulling on grounds an my one ground cable was loose on the frame. Tighten down the bolt an everything went back to normal.


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Sahara_Maverick
02-01-2018, 02:20 AM
That sounds like a grounding issue.

My 08 shut off on me in the middle of downtown traffic. I got it off the road, when I turned my ignition my wipers would turn on. I figured had to been a loose ground.
Low an behold I started pulling on grounds an my one ground cable was loose on the frame. Tighten down the bolt an everything went back to normal.


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Nope. It was the modules failure. One dealer could not figure out.
An auto shop found the TIPM failed but the issue was still going on.
Took to another dealer that found the wipers' module was failing and causing the new TIPM going haywire.
New module fixed it. However, they confirmed it's a known issue that Chrysler still did not fix so far.

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Thegreenmachine12
02-02-2018, 09:21 AM
Makes me feel better making 15k in my eco diesel ram until it needing a new motor. As much as everyone wants a diesel wrangler I will never get a diesel again.


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When will Ram finally realize that those VM Motori engines donít work and just use a small Cummins in the Ram 1500???


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4x4me
02-02-2018, 01:01 PM
And who's Frank?

You don't know Frank!
And here I thought you were one of the inner circle guys around here.[/QUOTE]

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NFRs2000NYC
02-02-2018, 05:10 PM
When will Ram finally realize that those VM Motori engines donít work and just use a small Cummins in the Ram 1500???


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We have 75k or zero issue miles on our diesel grand cherokee. Fantastic engine.

DINKELROC
02-02-2018, 10:54 PM
Maybe the Jeep overheard him talking about 20Ē wheels and fab fours bumpers and was like.. ďF#@K that, Iím outĒ

Funny shit :evil snicker: