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Ajkaz
09-25-2019, 05:27 PM
In the process of a DL flip, I have the synergy raised TB bracket specifically for the PR44 tube size. Before I hack the old bracket off I was going to mark the tube where the center of the current bolt hole is for the track bar. I then intend to weld in the new bracket on the same plane aligning the new bolt holes with the old; this way its attaching at the same horizontal point on the axle, just higher vertically.

As for rotation I intend to use an angle finder to find the current angle and match it with the new bracket. Should I instead level the bracket flat at my current caster?

Those who completely understand the geometry of the suspension, what would you do?

I called Synergy, no instructions exist for this combo though its a specific part #. They speculate that the sway bar links are in a different place and the standard directions would not work. I told them the above idea and they said that should be okay.

jeeeep
09-25-2019, 06:06 PM
what part number are you using? i used Synergy's weld on TB bracket 8009-1 for my PR 44 and followed the instructions for the stock tube listed on the site.

It worked out great, no issues. If you're using a hydro assist ram, make sure you get the tabs aligned and level with the ram placement.

https://www.synergymfg.com/instructions/PPM-8012-13_JK_WELD_ON_FR_TRACK_BAR_BRACKET_V2.pdf

fiend
09-25-2019, 06:17 PM
I think all you need to do is line up the hole on the sway bar link tab on the axle with the corresponding hole on the Synergy bracket. Use a bolt and an appropriate spacer, tighten it with a nut, and that will locate the bracket on the axle. (Basically, step 3 in the instructions at the link above.) Tack weld the bracket in place, remove the bolt and spacer, check with a ruler and angle finder, and then finish the welding.


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Ajkaz
09-25-2019, 06:42 PM
what part number are you using? i used Synergy's weld on TB bracket 8009-1 for my PR 44 and followed the instructions for the stock tube listed on the site.

It worked out great, no issues. If you're using a hydro assist ram, make sure you get the tabs aligned and level with the ram placement.

https://www.synergymfg.com/instructions/PPM-8012-13_JK_WELD_ON_FR_TRACK_BAR_BRACKET_V2.pdf

Thanks! Thats the one I've got! I will do the same!

Ajkaz
09-25-2019, 06:43 PM
I think all you need to do is line up the hole on the sway bar link tab on the axle with the corresponding hole on the Synergy bracket. Use a bolt and an appropriate spacer, tighten it with a nut, and that will locate the bracket on the axle. (Basically, step 3 in the instructions at the link above.) Tack weld the bracket in place, remove the bolt and spacer, check with a ruler and angle finder, and then finish the welding.


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Thanks fiend!

fiend
09-25-2019, 09:45 PM
Thanks fiend!

Sure thing. Good luck


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Slimebones
09-25-2019, 11:24 PM
I think all you need to do is line up the hole on the sway bar link tab on the axle with the corresponding hole on the Synergy bracket. Use a bolt and an appropriate spacer, tighten it with a nut, and that will locate the bracket on the axle. (Basically, step 3 in the instructions at the link above.) Tack weld the bracket in place, remove the bolt and spacer, check with a ruler and angle finder, and then finish the welding.


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So, if you use this setup, if you want to use the stock axle mount for the lower sway bar link mount, you are limited to using either the stock rubber bushing type or a heim joint type. Is there a preferred heim joint that allows more lateral movement than the stock rubber bushing type? It seems most adjustable links I've looked at offer only a tie rod end on their links which will not fit in the 1 1/2" space between the stock lower mount and the newly mounted bracket for track bar. Hope this makes sense, as I have been thinking of replacing my links with ones that allow more lateral movement than the stock rubber bushing type.

JKbrick
09-25-2019, 11:32 PM
So, if you use this setup, if you want to use the stock axle mount for the lower sway bar link mount, you are limited to using either the stock rubber bushing type or a heim joint type. Is there a preferred heim joint that allows more lateral movement than the stock rubber bushing type? It seems most adjustable links I've looked at offer only a tie rod end on their links which will not fit in the 1 1/2" space between the stock lower mount and the newly mounted bracket for track bar. Hope this makes sense, as I have been thinking of replacing my links with ones that allow more lateral movement than the stock rubber bushing type.

A tie rod end on a track bar for a JK? Iíve only seen that on a TJ on the frame end


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Slimebones
09-25-2019, 11:52 PM
A tie rod end on a track bar for a JK? Iíve only seen that on a TJ on the frame end


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Not the trackbar, but sway bar end links.

JKbrick
09-25-2019, 11:58 PM
Not the trackbar, but sway bar end links.

I read it wrong [emoji51]


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fiend
09-26-2019, 02:08 AM
So, if you use this setup, if you want to use the stock axle mount for the lower sway bar link mount, you are limited to using either the stock rubber bushing type or a heim joint type. Is there a preferred heim joint that allows more lateral movement than the stock rubber bushing type? It seems most adjustable links I've looked at offer only a tie rod end on their links which will not fit in the 1 1/2" space between the stock lower mount and the newly mounted bracket for track bar. Hope this makes sense, as I have been thinking of replacing my links with ones that allow more lateral movement than the stock rubber bushing type.

Doug,

Iím still using the rubber bushing type links, mounted in the upper hole on the synergy bracket. See pictures. I havenít had any issues with limited flex. But if you wanted to use heim joints, I would think youíd want skinny ones. I donít see why you couldnít mount them in the lower hole, with spacers. Maybe check out EVOís links.

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Slimebones
09-26-2019, 08:22 PM
Doug,

Iím still using the rubber bushing type links, mounted in the upper hole on the synergy bracket. See pictures. I havenít had any issues with limited flex. But if you wanted to use heim joints, I would think youíd want skinny ones. I donít see why you couldnít mount them in the lower hole, with spacers. Maybe check out EVOís links.

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Greer, thanks for that, will look into that. I have gone through a couple sets of rubber bushings, ready for a change.