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LiveOn
03-20-2013, 03:24 AM
Hello all,


We are off building another project!!! Father/Son project with a Safari inspired Off Road Trailer equipped with 35" tires, roof top tent, bike racks, and kayak racks. Please follow our thread as we build on the weekends.

Starting with a 1987 Zeman trailer.

Skid_Kid
03-20-2013, 03:27 AM
Subscribed!

my_jk
03-20-2013, 03:30 AM
Subscribed also :thumb:

Philip *AZ*
03-20-2013, 03:30 AM
Yep!


Paratroopers stay up longer!

MrJ3sser
03-20-2013, 03:36 AM
Reminds me of this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk6KJXeOM0k

Should be a fun build. I always liked to do stuff like that with my dad. Now, we are drinking buddies! :beer: :thumb:

LiveOn
03-20-2013, 03:56 AM
Reminds me of this:

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk6KJXeOM0k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk6KJXeOM0k)

Should be a fun build. I always liked to do stuff like that with my dad. Now, we are drinking buddies! :beer: :thumb:

Remind me not to buy that trailer!!!!

Philip *AZ*
03-20-2013, 04:05 AM
One thing is for sure. Dude can drive!


Paratroopers stay up longer!

MTG
03-20-2013, 04:15 AM
Awesome! Can't wait to see it progress.

texasdave
03-20-2013, 11:26 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing this!!

bl17z90
03-20-2013, 11:56 AM
subscribed!!!

DanMojo82
03-20-2013, 01:10 PM
Something close to my heart right here :thumb:

BlackKnight
03-20-2013, 02:46 PM
Subbed.. I'm thinking of doing the same thing once I get the JKU. I miss going out in to the woods and camping. I was a Boyscout/Order of the Arrow and haven't been out camping since 18years old :(

Used to camp severa times in all four seasons and did the Survival style camping once a year (picked a different season every year for the survival).

gtony12
03-20-2013, 02:48 PM
Hello all,


We are off building another project!!! Father/Son project with a Safari inspired Off Road Trailer equipped with 35" tires, roof top tent, bike racks, and kayak racks. Please follow our thread as we build on the weekends.


Awesome, can't wait to see the post and updates.:clap2: I saw the trail 4 sale... Good buy!!!:thumb:

b-white
03-20-2013, 04:28 PM
Subscribed. I am slowly working on a similar build with a smaller trailer. Can't wait to see how you transform that thing.

Rivertoys
03-20-2013, 04:56 PM
Veyr much looking forward to seeing this project!!! Have fun.

LiveOn
03-22-2013, 03:13 AM
Subbed.. I'm thinking of doing the same thing once I get the JKU. I miss going out in to the woods and camping. I was a Boyscout/Order of the Arrow and haven't been out camping since 18years old :(

Used to camp severa times in all four seasons and did the Survival style camping once a year (picked a different season every year for the survival).

First: you need a JKU, and if u are signing up for that, might as well upgrade to the rubicon.

Second: out of the city and out camping much better than a roof over my head

LiveOn
03-22-2013, 03:16 AM
Great seeing everyone subscribing!!! The trailer build will start tomorrow ;)

If anyone has any inputs, please let us know!!

TrailBear
03-22-2013, 03:29 AM
Trailing arm suspension?


If you don't push the limits how do you find them??

LiveOn
03-22-2013, 03:51 AM
Trailing arm suspension?

If you don't push the limits how do you find them??

HaHa!!! We were thinking about going that route, but it looks like, to shave cash, we will be doing a spring over axle lift.

Hock Edition
03-22-2013, 04:25 AM
i bought a bunch of military trailers trying to do the same thing just to heavy

LiveOn
03-22-2013, 05:19 AM
i bought a bunch of military trailers trying to do the same thing just to heavy

Any 1/4 tons??

bl17z90
03-22-2013, 08:50 AM
Saw something similar to this on another forum and the coolest part was how the guy bent conduit into a shape then welded it in place to make a rack to carry his jku hard top and doors

LiveOn
03-23-2013, 01:07 AM
And the build begins!!!

This is us pulling the trailer into the garage and cutting off the excessive hydraulic brake system. This front section weight 200 pounds!!!

Trailer is now level and ready for the spring over axle lift!!

LiveOn
03-23-2013, 01:56 AM
Spring Over Axle Lift

DanMojo82
03-23-2013, 02:02 AM
What's that axle rated for?

LiveOn
03-23-2013, 02:11 AM
What's that axle rated for?

5000 pounds

A little over kill, but it saves $1000 for trying to replace it ;)

DanMojo82
03-23-2013, 02:22 AM
That just means you never have to worry about weight.

Are you going back to a pintle hitch or going with a ball?

LiveOn
03-23-2013, 02:51 AM
That just means you never have to worry about weight.

Are you going back to a pintle hitch or going with a ball?

Exactly!!!

We are staying with the pintle hitch, but going from a heavy duty 6.5" diameter ring to a 5" diameter ring. No need for the excess weight.

sundaydriver
03-23-2013, 03:54 AM
Hang on to that swing away front jack. I used that one on mine. Lets me open the tail gate. Looks good.
I'm working on one too. A lot of fun.

LiveOn
03-23-2013, 05:33 AM
Hang on to that swing away front jack. I used that one on mine. Lets me open the tail gate. Looks good.
I'm working on one too. A lot of fun.

I actually upgraded to a swing away dual wheel front jake.

How is your trailer coming along??

TrailBear
03-23-2013, 05:41 AM
Have you looked at some of the hitches the manufactures use on their trailers, they use a urathane where the pintle bolts to the reach. It allows it to flex and twist on the trail, I think it acts a little like a compensator on the hwy to so you don't get as much bucking.


If you don't push the limits how do you find them??

sundaydriver
03-23-2013, 11:25 PM
I actually upgraded to a swing away dual wheel front jake.

How is your trailer coming along??

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Coming along, It's been fun. Keeping an eye on yours.

LiveOn
03-23-2013, 11:36 PM
<img src="http://wayalife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=20986"/><img src="http://wayalife.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=20989"/>

Coming along, It's been fun. Keeping an eye on yours.

Thanks for the pics!!! It has come a long way from the original rust ;) lol

sundaydriver
03-23-2013, 11:52 PM
Thanks for the pics!!! It has come a long way from the original rust ;) lol

Yea, The real fun didn't start till the fabrication did.
I flipped my axil too. I got about 4in lift.:rock:

LiveOn
03-23-2013, 11:53 PM
- Wiring and brakes are out
- rear light mounts are off
- fender bump stops are off and will be replaced with 1" round stock.

Coming along!!!

LiveOn
03-23-2013, 11:59 PM
Parts on order

- Pro Comp 7036 series wheels
- Pro Comp 315X70R17 (35") Xtreme MT2 tires
- 2 piece wheel adapters from 6 lug 139.7" to 5 lug 127". (Equivalent to 6 on 5.5 to 5 on 5) we did this so the tires and rims are interchangeable from jeep to trailer
- Tepui Roof Top Tent
- 5" pintle tow eyelet

sundaydriver
03-24-2013, 12:03 AM
:clap2::clap2: Going to look awesome!!

Tackerdown
03-24-2013, 12:12 AM
That looks like its going to be a really cool build and I like the adjustable seat.:thumbup:

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LiveOn
03-24-2013, 12:27 AM
That looks like its going to be a really cool build and I like the adjustable seat.:thumbup:

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3 Ton!!! She should hold!!! ;)

Tackerdown
03-24-2013, 01:44 AM
Haha that should do it. It looked like the one at Costco.

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LiveOn
03-24-2013, 03:59 AM
Haha that should do it. It looked like the one at Costco.

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You got that right!!! :)

08Unlimitied-JK
03-24-2013, 05:48 PM
Here is what i am working on. I have 6 of these trailers. All of them very nice. These are the vienam era trailers intended to be pulled by jeeps.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/copperheads10/Trailer/th_IMG_1900.jpg (http://s115.photobucket.com/user/copperheads10/media/Trailer/IMG_1900.jpg.html)
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/copperheads10/Trailer/th_IMG_1899.jpg (http://s115.photobucket.com/user/copperheads10/media/Trailer/IMG_1899.jpg.html)
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/copperheads10/Trailer/th_IMG_1897.jpg (http://s115.photobucket.com/user/copperheads10/media/Trailer/IMG_1897.jpg.html)

Tackerdown
03-24-2013, 06:00 PM
Here is what i am working on. I have 6 of these trailers. All of them very nice. These are the vienam era trailers intended to be pulled by jeeps.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/copperheads10/Trailer/th_IMG_1900.jpg (http://s115.photobucket.com/user/copperheads10/media/Trailer/IMG_1900.jpg.html)
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/copperheads10/Trailer/th_IMG_1899.jpg (http://s115.photobucket.com/user/copperheads10/media/Trailer/IMG_1899.jpg.html)
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n308/copperheads10/Trailer/th_IMG_1897.jpg (http://s115.photobucket.com/user/copperheads10/media/Trailer/IMG_1897.jpg.html)

Your works half done already. As for now I'm A day tripper , but maybe get into what you guies do.

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08Unlimitied-JK
03-24-2013, 06:05 PM
Your works half done already. As for now I'm A day tripper , but maybe get into what you guies do.

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I'm gonna cut out the rear for a tailgate and add a lid so i can mount my kayaks etc. Also, i will build a mount for a grill. I already have the water tank etc built that goes in it. I will start my own build this afternoon so i am not taking anything away from this awesome thread!:rock:

Tackerdown
03-24-2013, 06:08 PM
I'm gonna cut out the rear for a tailgate and add a lid so i can mount my kayaks etc. Also, i will build a mount for a grill. I already have the water tank etc built that goes in it. I will start my own build this afternoon so i am not taking anything away from this awesome thread!:rock:

Good idea look forward to seeing your build also , sorry for the little hi jack

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TonyD
03-26-2013, 04:44 AM
Looks like they have a couple of those trailer laying around....:thinking: did you pick it up for a steal?

LiveOn
03-26-2013, 04:49 AM
I makes a great base with the 5000 pound axle, 4 inch C channel steel frame, hydraulic brake assist, etc.

Picked it up for a few hundred.

TonyD
03-26-2013, 04:52 AM
I makes a great base with the 5000 pound axle, 4 inch C channel steel frame, hydraulic brake assist, etc.

Picked it up for a few hundred.

I'll call that a steal...

If you don't mind me asking.... Where did you find it? Looked like utility co surplus?

LiveOn
03-26-2013, 04:56 AM
It was previously owned by the gas company, but i actually found it on Craigslist.

TonyD
03-26-2013, 04:59 AM
It was previously owned by the gas company, but i actually found it on Craigslist.

Good find. Subscribed. Have fun! Nothing's better than a father/son project. Enjoy it!

LiveOn
03-26-2013, 05:01 AM
Thanks my friend!! Stay tuned for next weekend!!! The parts come in and the welding begins ;)

bl17z90
03-26-2013, 08:57 AM
Did you get that tire/wheel package from quadratec i saw they are doing a special with pro comp this week

Lane87
03-26-2013, 09:42 AM
This is going to be awesome! I'm thinking about building an off road tear drop camper.

LiveOn
03-26-2013, 12:53 PM
Did you get that tire/wheel package from quadratec i saw they are doing a special with pro comp this week

I had everyone under the sun quote the wheels & tires, since March Madness sales are going on and the best price was from Americas Tires!!

LiveOn
03-26-2013, 12:54 PM
This is going to be awesome! I'm thinking about building an off road tear drop camper.

Aww man!!! My buddy built one and it came out amazing!!! Such a cool and unique design!!!

08Unlimitied-JK
03-26-2013, 12:58 PM
Aww man!!! My buddy built one and it came out amazing!!! Such a cool and unique design!!!

That would be awesome!!

Lane87
03-26-2013, 07:36 PM
Aww man!!! My buddy built one and it came out amazing!!! Such a cool and unique design!!!

Yeah I have a buddy who built one a while back. I was really impressed with how he put it together. I'll try to find a pic if I can.

LiveOn
03-28-2013, 01:35 AM
Parts are innnn!!!

LiveOn
03-29-2013, 11:10 PM
Checking ride height and the welding begins!!!

paychex.308
03-29-2013, 11:12 PM
looks like its coming together nicely! well done gentlemen!

andrew -

MTG
03-29-2013, 11:17 PM
Looks great! Love the matching wheels! :thumb:

paychex.308
03-29-2013, 11:22 PM
hey Scott, is that grinder a bit too loud for you? :crazyeyes:

LiveOn
03-29-2013, 11:30 PM
hey Scott, is that grinder a bit too loud for you? :crazyeyes:

HELL YEAH!!! haha

Two grinders going in a garage, my brain was rattling more than a six flags roller coaster!!!

sundaydriver
03-30-2013, 03:58 AM
Looking real good. The matching wheels are awesome!!

LiveOn
03-31-2013, 12:24 AM
Finished welding up the front tongue today and took it out for a test ride. Everything ran smooth with no fish tailing!!

Additionally; mounted the rails and ladder to the rooftop tent and ordered raw materials to start building the roof rack.

The manufacturing of the tent is unbelievable!!! Well made and roomy as all get out!!

Any Suggestions???

LiveOn
03-31-2013, 12:25 AM
Ohhh, and one more thing!!!

What do you use your winch for??

We use ours to hold the trailer upright to weld underneath!! HaHa

08Unlimitied-JK
03-31-2013, 01:14 AM
:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:
Ohhh, and one more thing!!!

What do you use your winch for??

We use ours to hold the trailer upright to weld underneath!! HaHa

MTG
03-31-2013, 03:26 AM
Finished welding up the front tongue today and took it out for a test ride. Everything ran smooth with no fish tailing!!

Additionally; mounted the rails and ladder to the rooftop tent and ordered raw materials to start building the roof rack.

The manufacturing of the tent is unbelievable!!! Well made and roomy as all get out!!

Any Suggestions???

Looks great!

But so does that garage! Does it go all the way through the house?

LiveOn
04-15-2013, 04:35 AM
Hello All

We had a blast with a couple small projects ;)

- Tail gate latches
- Mounted jerry cans
- Installed emergency brake
- ordered LED lights all around

Tabers
04-15-2013, 03:19 PM
Sick! I can't wait to find one to start a build ...

Linebacker
04-15-2013, 03:45 PM
Very impressive and way stout.:thumb::thumb:

sundaydriver
04-15-2013, 06:57 PM
Like the hand brake.


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jhires
04-15-2013, 07:00 PM
I love this build, but I have to ask, how much does it weigh? Looks like it can take a beating, but it also looks like it would push you down the trail too.

LiveOn
04-16-2013, 01:33 AM
Very impressive and way stout.:thumb::thumb:

I'll tell you what... This 1987 Zeman trailer is the perfect base

LiveOn
04-16-2013, 01:34 AM
I love this build, but I have to ask, how much does it weigh? Looks like it can take a beating, but it also looks like it would push you down the trail too.

We will weigh it in at the end, but we have only been removing weight left and right!!

Steele2j
05-15-2013, 04:59 PM
Any updates?

LiveOn
05-18-2013, 10:46 PM
We are back in business :)

Sorry for the delay subscribers, but sometimes life throws curve balls!!

This weekend we fabbed up a great looking roof top tent rack!! Let me know what you guys think

Also, the heavy duty dual wheel jack is trash. The wheels are as good as a flat footed jack!! They don't follow. On order is the proven Fulton F2 wide track. All aluminum parts and housing making it corrosion resistant!!

Hope everyone is great!!

LiveOn
05-18-2013, 10:51 PM
Here are the images in higher resolution!!!3053030531305323053330534305353053630 537

AllAmericanInfidel
05-18-2013, 11:29 PM
Loving it!! I need one of those!! Great Job! :thumb:

LiveOn
05-19-2013, 12:17 AM
Loving it!! I need one of those!! Great Job! :thumb:

Thanks my friend!!!

texasdave
05-19-2013, 11:26 AM
That looks great!!

Steele2j
06-03-2013, 06:23 PM
Looking good.

TrailRidden
06-03-2013, 07:06 PM
I love it! looks awesome, hope I can do this some day.

UncensoredAggression
06-03-2013, 08:21 PM
That is very impressive. :clap2: Wish I knew how to weld. :grayno:

blk97tj
06-03-2013, 09:06 PM
That is very impressive. :clap2: Wish I knew how to weld. :grayno:

I know how you feel! I've had an old trailer sitting in my yard for almost 2 years because I don't know how to weld. It's seeing things like this that make me want to learn. Great job on the trailer, I can't wait to see the finished product!

newtdog
06-03-2013, 09:28 PM
That thing looks sick!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍


2010 MANGO TANGO SPORT JKU

mrmet1983
06-03-2013, 10:25 PM
this thing is sick ......i really need to learn how to weld :thinking:

White_JKU
06-04-2013, 12:54 AM
Looking forward to seeing the finished product.. love the tent and homemade mounting system! I'm about to camp on a ride this weekend and that looks way more fun than pitching my tent on the ground.

LiveOn
08-03-2013, 08:40 PM
Well, since the wedding is 3 months away my father and I haven't had a minute to work on the trailer (or should I say I haven't had time!! LoL)

But when the girls are away, the men will play (or build) haha

Today we are cutting and welding the diamond plate on the front tongue!! We are hard at work and will have more to come!!

Thanks to all who are following.

LiveOn
08-04-2013, 04:32 PM
Hard at work installing the dual stabilizing rear jacks!!! These jacks extend 31 inches and actually are very continent for changing a tire!!

LiveOn
10-15-2013, 12:51 PM
Completed!!!! Done!!!! Finished!!!

MTG
10-15-2013, 12:53 PM
Wow! That looks awesome!

cozdude
10-15-2013, 12:57 PM
WOW!!! that looks amazing!!!

10frank9
10-15-2013, 12:58 PM
Wow that is nice. You taking orders? Haha. Truly great work.

bl17z90
10-15-2013, 01:01 PM
That is freaking cool. I would love to get a cheap trailer and fix it up nicely to carry my camping/offroading extras. Would be nice to save room for my dogs since my 2 door barely has enough room for me.

munstie
10-15-2013, 02:40 PM
That is one badass trailer.

2011 JKU 3.5 R.E. Longarm lift.

OverlanderJK
10-15-2013, 02:41 PM
That looks good!

mrmet1983
10-15-2013, 02:46 PM
Completed!!!! Done!!!! Finished!!!

That is bad ass !! I want to make one this winter. Amazing job !!


I don't always wheel , but when I do I keep it tight......... Stay dirty my friends.

JAGS
10-15-2013, 03:07 PM
Nicely done!

bamaslammer
10-15-2013, 03:24 PM
Subscribed

LiveOn
10-15-2013, 03:48 PM
Thank you all. This was a great father / son project!! I will upload more images with the tent deployed this weekend.

bl17z90
10-15-2013, 04:15 PM
I will upload more images with the tent deployed this weekend.

Hey hey hey. Pitch a tent all you want but for the love of god don't take pictures of it :bleh:

NaTyCh363
10-15-2013, 05:35 PM
That looks so great. My boys are only 7 and 10, but I think I now have the inspiration to start my own father/sons project. Nice work!

parcours
10-17-2013, 04:14 AM
Looks GREAT!

I'm building a Bantam TC3. My build is on Expeditionportal.com, also a father/son thing.

Where did you get the tail latches?

Brankz
10-17-2013, 04:23 AM
Wow that trailer is definition of BAD ASS!!!


Brankz

texasdave
10-17-2013, 10:57 AM
:clap2::thumb::yup::rock:..............:beer:

catahoula
10-17-2013, 01:23 PM
I'm really liking your trailer. If I did not live in a condo I would be building something like that.

JK-JOHN-E
10-18-2013, 03:51 AM
Completed!!!! Done!!!! Finished!!!

Better keep that beauty inside the garage. I'm sensing a lot of trailer envy. One bad ass project.:rock:

LiveOn
07-09-2014, 02:44 PM
Maiden Voyage

Notajerryskid
07-09-2014, 02:52 PM
Rock on!!!!! :rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:

Making me want one now. :daydream:

pvanweelden
07-09-2014, 02:53 PM
How did it do? Looks awesome! :thumb: great job!

Rccrwlr
07-09-2014, 02:54 PM
Maiden Voyage

Wow. Looking good and way to go Wayalife/project-jk for the sponsor. Looks like you get the proper recognition on this build!


--rccrwlr

JK_Dave
07-09-2014, 06:30 PM
Curious why you left the trailer open rather than creating a lid for it to seal out the elements? Looks sweet and I'm also on the fan bandwagon! :yup:

Jimbo's JK
07-09-2014, 07:06 PM
That thing is super awesome! :rock:

TheNoob
07-10-2014, 06:39 PM
Wow, awesome build. I just picked up a 4x6 to haul my quad and would love to freshen it up. And maybe add more to it, is welding easy to pick up? So tempted to get a welder.

OverlanderJK
07-10-2014, 07:12 PM
That came out really nice! Great job!

cozdude
07-10-2014, 07:48 PM
looks awesome! how did it perform? did it live up to your expectations?

LiveOn
07-11-2014, 12:23 AM
How did it do? Looks awesome! :thumb: great job!

Worked better than expected!! The Max Coupler is a must buy.

LiveOn
07-11-2014, 12:25 AM
Curious why you left the trailer open rather than creating a lid for it to seal out the elements? Looks sweet and I'm also on the fan bandwagon! :yup:

Great question JK_Dave, and I don't have a good answer!! We are looking into building another trailer with a lid and a few other design changes. But we managed and took cover under a tree when it rained for a hour

LiveOn
07-11-2014, 12:27 AM
Wow, awesome build. I just picked up a 4x6 to haul my quad and would love to freshen it up. And maybe add more to it, is welding easy to pick up? So tempted to get a welder.

I grew up welding, so I would say "It's a piece of cake," but others may say otherwise. When I got older I took some mig and tig classes while I was in college which honed in my skills. Inexpensive way to learn.

LiveOn
07-11-2014, 12:29 AM
looks awesome! how did it perform? did it live up to your expectations?

It exceeded my expectations, but we made a small list of improvements while on the trail.

- mounted water tank
- purchase a pelican cooler
- add a water pump
- add lighting
- add 110 outlet

Crush Rubicon
08-02-2014, 03:37 AM
You post some more pictures of the newest add ons