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JethroJK
05-27-2013, 11:04 PM
So I am looking around at jacks. Of course Hi Lift is on the top of the list but does it really matter?? I seen a brand, Haul Master, for 50 bucks at good old Harbor Freight but the quality....probably not so much. :thinking: Then there is the choice of which Hi Lift to buy if I go that route.

Opinions? We all got one so blast away...:yup:

badassbrass
05-27-2013, 11:07 PM
Hi liFt.... I'm working with non hi lift jack and they don't work well as the hi lift do! They are VERY well made! Worth the price,( not expensive anyway)


From Québec

badassbrass
05-27-2013, 11:08 PM
Reliable is king in jeep's world.


From Québec

JethroJK
05-27-2013, 11:10 PM
Hi liFt.... I'm working with non hi lift jack and they don't work well as the hi lift do! They are VERY well made! Worth the price,( not expensive anyway)


From Québec

I agree it is worth the few extra bucks but curious about the others. Thanks for the info.

badassbrass
05-27-2013, 11:10 PM
😜😜


From Québec

Tackerdown
05-27-2013, 11:17 PM
I talked to someone that had the H F one and they were not happy. I don't have any experiance with them.

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Sharkey
05-27-2013, 11:26 PM
I'm not a huge fan of hi lift style jacks, at least not for changing tires. Sure, they have other uses but there are a lot better ways to "unstuck" a vehicle and a good bottle jack (or even the stock jack on a raised base) works better to change tires. Plus, hi lifts can't always get a lifted Jeep high enough to change a tire because getting suitable jack placement on the Jeep can be difficult.

They look cool on the Jeep though.

sean.m.adams33
05-27-2013, 11:41 PM
I would say hi lift. A buddy of mine had the harbor freight one break on him while on the trail. I have the hi lift extreme and it has been great.

mcpuck
05-27-2013, 11:48 PM
As long as one person in your group has one, no need to carry one. I quit carrying one because my buddy carries one and we don't need two or more.



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Canvas JK
05-28-2013, 12:16 AM
I have hi lift style one wade by Reese. Seems good but have ad to use it yet. It was a birthday present from SWMBO.

JethroJK
05-28-2013, 02:30 AM
I would say hi lift. A buddy of mine had the harbor freight one break on him while on the trail. I have the hi lift extreme and it has been great.

Thanks for all the info. The extreme looks nice.

BlackDiamondBound
05-28-2013, 02:42 PM
I'm not a huge fan of hi lift style jacks, at least not for changing tires. Sure, they have other uses but there are a lot better ways to "unstuck" a vehicle and a good bottle jack (or even the stock jack on a raised base) works better to change tires. Plus, hi lifts can't always get a lifted Jeep high enough to change a tire because getting suitable jack placement on the Jeep can be difficult.

They look cool on the Jeep though.

x2 well said. I try to avoid using a high lift whenever possible. I have both, hi lift and the one from HF. both are the same to me, a steel stick thats unstable and usually maxes out before it can be useful. I dont even carry one most of the time. 6ton bottle jack and a block of wood is what I carry.

Voodoo Actual
05-28-2013, 03:07 PM
I'm not a huge fan of hi lift style jacks, at least not for changing tires. Sure, they have other uses but there are a lot better ways to "unstuck" a vehicle and a good bottle jack (or even the stock jack on a raised base) works better to change tires. Plus, hi lifts can't always get a lifted Jeep high enough to change a tire because getting suitable jack placement on the Jeep can be difficult.

They look cool on the Jeep though.

Most bumpers have jack locations.

There are accessories to help you out along the way which should address your concerns:

http://www.hi-lift.com/accessories/lift-mate.html

http://www.hi-lift.com/accessories/off-road-base.html

http://www.hi-lift.com/accessories/bumper-lift.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgjqhU5PgkE

wayoflife
05-28-2013, 03:12 PM
If you're gonna get one, get a Hi-Lift. Having said that, I own 3 but try hard NOT to use them. Hi-Lifts have a place and can be a very useful tool but for MOST applications, a good bottle jack will do the job better and safer. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Big-T
05-28-2013, 03:24 PM
If you're gonna get one, get a Hi-Lift. Having said that, I own 3 but try hard NOT to use them. Hi-Lifts have a place and can be a very useful tool but for MOST applications, a good bottle jack will do the job better and safer. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Definitely agree. :thumb:

1yellowjk
05-28-2013, 03:46 PM
I have hi lift style one wade by Reese. Seems good but have ad to use it yet. It was a birthday present from SWMBO.

I have the Reese "Farm Jack" as well. I keep mine lubed with White Lithium greese and it works just as well as the hi-lift jack I sold with my old JKU. The key is to keep them free from rust and lubed .

I bought the Reese as a temp jack until I could order a HI-Lift, I used it once decided to keep it.

JethroJK
05-28-2013, 04:00 PM
If you're gonna get one, get a Hi-Lift. Having said that, I own 3 but try hard NOT to use them. Hi-Lifts have a place and can be a very useful tool but for MOST applications, a good bottle jack will do the job better and safer. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Thanks for your opinion, I was thinking about a bottle jack but you hear and see Hi Lift on every Jeep and assume that is the way to go.

I will have to look at bottle jacks, any recommended brand?

JethroJK
05-28-2013, 04:02 PM
I have the Reese "Farm Jack" as well. I keep mine lubed with White Lithium greese and it works just as well as the hi-lift jack I sold with my old JKU. The key is to keep them free from rust and lubed .

I bought the Reese as a temp jack until I could order a HI-Lift, I used it once decided to keep it.

I learned long ago that most stuff will last if you properly maintain it. Keeping it free from rust and properly lubricated is a must.

wayoflife
05-28-2013, 04:09 PM
Thanks for your opinion, I was thinking about a bottle jack but you hear and see Hi Lift on every Jeep and assume that is the way to go.

And, the reason why you hear and see so many Hi-Lifts on every Jeep is because they heard and saw so many Hi-Lifts on every Jeep and assumed that was the way to go too. As I had said, Hi-Lifts have a place and can be a very useful tool but for MOST applications, a good bottle jack will do the job better and safer, or, at least, that's what I have found.


I will have to look at bottle jacks, any recommended brand?

I have a 6 ton bottle jack that I got from Napa and it's always worked great for me. However, I wouldn't hesitate to use one from Harbor Freight too. If you're really built up, you might want to get a higher capacity jack as they will go taller. I carry cut down blocks of 2x4's that fit into my trunk cubby so that I have more options to work with - bigger footprint, need to go taller, etc.

JethroJK
05-28-2013, 04:25 PM
And, the reason why you hear and see so many Hi-Lifts on every Jeep is because they heard and saw so many Hi-Lifts on every Jeep and assumed that was the way to go too. As I had said, Hi-Lifts have a place and can be a very useful tool but for MOST applications, a good bottle jack will do the job better and safer, or, at least, that's what I have found.



I have a 6 ton bottle jack that I got from Napa and it's always worked great for me. However, I wouldn't hesitate to use one from Harbor Freight too. If you're really built up, you might want to get a higher capacity jack as they will go taller. I carry cut down blocks of 2x4's that fit into my trunk cubby so that I have more options to work with - bigger footprint, need to go taller, etc.

Funny, it is like a domino effect...but I agree they do have their purpose.

They are all priced about the same about 30 bucks for a 6 ton. With my 2.5" lift I think the travel of most is about 18.5" and with some 2x6 and 2x4 pieces I should be able to do most applications. Thanks for the info. :rock:

badassbrass
07-11-2013, 12:35 PM
And don't forget.... Hi lift are not for mech., it is to tilt your jeep when on rocks or stuff when you pan...or to shim it..... But if you are not into rough trail and never have to lift/tilt for "get out of trouble" i guess you don't even need one.....


From Québec

Coach Doug
07-14-2013, 03:09 PM
I am currently in the market for one as well as a winch. picture this, a tale from a buddy of mine.. sliding down a hill forward and got wedged up against a tree with no traction.. he had to run his winch underneath his carriage to a tree behind him and damaged his fairlead and some other components. yes, he could have had a movable winch but that adds a significant cost. otherwise a hi lift jack would have worked to pull him backwards up the hill... another scenario, you're in some really rough terrain or extreme rock conditions and you need to replace a tire, would a bottle jack work as well as a hi lift? I truly have no experience with either I'm just looking at this from a common sense standpoint and what I've read on the forums. I would never try to use a hi lift jack on the highway to replace a tire that's what the scissor jack is for, however it seems to me with a couple links of chain, strap, and a hi lift jack you can pretty much get yourself out of any situation out on the trail. please, point out the flaws of my logic I want to have the best setup for getting myself out of trouble. I'm a new Jeep owner and don't have a lot of experience in really heavy situations.

Rccrwlr
07-18-2013, 04:24 AM
If you're gonna get one, get a Hi-Lift. Having said that, I own 3 but try hard NOT to use them. Hi-Lifts have a place and can be a very useful tool but for MOST applications, a good bottle jack will do the job better and safer. Of course, that's just my opinion.

so where do you keep your bottle jack?

Coach Doug
07-19-2013, 09:57 AM
Does anybody have (or had) both hi lift and reese farm jack that can give a comparison?

jnabird333
07-19-2013, 12:46 PM
I hate to divert the thread, but since there already has been with the bottle jacks... I was wondering what everyone's real-world experiences are with the exhaust bag type jack like the one shown below. I have been considering them because I like the larger foot-print and ability to use multiple ways. I haven't pulled the trigger on a jack yet because I have been wavering on the options. but here are my pros-cons when thinking about jacks for the Jeep. For now I just use the scissor-jack and boards... (and hope to not need them).

Hi-Lift (type)
Extended lift range and optional uses such as winching. Very dangerous to use. They are heavy and large.

Bottle Jack
Small, lots of lift options. some leak when stored sideways. Best placement is under the axle so your gonna get dirty using it... Might need to carry boards to increase footprint.

Stock-Jack with Raised base (Like the AEV one)
This seems as good an option as a Bottle Jack but no-one seems to do it... :thinking:

Air-Bag Jack
Large Footprint, Easy Storage, Lots of lift options, could roll out and cause vehicle stop on unstable ground.

To be honest I don't see a clear winner, but rather a selection of preference. This said, I might not be seeing everything or aspect fully.

http://www.discountramps.com/sportImages/exhaust-jack.jpg
http://www.discountramps.com/exhaust-jack.htm?CAWELAID=1554776713&catargetid=1389811204&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CIvzpZz39bcCFapcMgodiCAA1Q

Hightower
07-23-2013, 05:18 PM
If you're gonna get one, get a Hi-Lift. Having said that, I own 3 but try hard NOT to use them. Hi-Lifts have a place and can be a very useful tool but for MOST applications, a good bottle jack will do the job better and safer. Of course, that's just my opinion.

I agree with Eddie 100% bottle jack over H/L! I have 2 myself the last time I even thought of using one was when i took it apart to use the handle as a snipe.


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Sharkey
07-23-2013, 06:58 PM
I agree with Eddie 100% bottle jack over H/L! I have 2 myself the last time I even thought of using one was when i took it apart to use the handle as a snipe.


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X's 3. I feel the same about hilifts as I do spring compressors. If used properly, both can do what they are supposed to do. If something goes wrong though, bad $--T can happen.

1yellowjk
07-24-2013, 12:46 AM
Does anybody have (or had) both hi lift and reese farm jack that can give a comparison?

Did u read the whole thread?

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mrmet1983
07-24-2013, 12:53 AM
I have the harbor freight 50$ special and it works just as good as my buddy's 100$ hi lift from quadratec so I'd say get the HF lift and call it a day just my opinion.


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Liam&Jess
09-01-2016, 04:59 PM
I bought a 48" hi-lift jack, and our rig has a 3" lift, do I need the 48' jack, or would the 42" jack work.
I ask because apparently my garage does not like getting nicked by the jack nor does the jack.
Any input is good input, thanks everyone!

WJCO
09-01-2016, 05:04 PM
I bought a 48" hi-lift jack, and our rig has a 3" lift, do I need the 48' jack, or would the 42" jack work.
I ask because apparently my garage does not like getting nicked by the jack nor does the jack.
Any input is good input, thanks everyone!

I moved your post here to this thread. Hopefully you can look through it and find your answer here or others can chime in. :thumb:

Brute
09-01-2016, 05:20 PM
I'm thinking this might be the ultimate...

https://www.allgermanmotorsports.com/dakar-series-jacking-system-complete-kit/

If your high centered, you can remedy it without getting out of the cab...

WJCO
09-01-2016, 05:28 PM
I'm thinking this might be the ultimate...

https://www.allgermanmotorsports.com/dakar-series-jacking-system-complete-kit/

If your high centered, you can remedy it without getting out of the cab...

You know......I've been just sitting here staring at the 6300 dollars just sitting on my desk and wondering which jack I should buy. I think I found my answer. Thanks, Ed!

Brute
09-01-2016, 05:33 PM
You know......I've been just sitting here staring at the 6300 dollars just sitting on my desk and wondering which jack I should buy. I think I found my answer. Thanks, Ed!

Always happy to help out my fellow man...

But you have to admit...way cool...

Sharkey
09-01-2016, 05:49 PM
It needs a high speed delivery system so you could pogo stick through traffic. ;)

Clifford33
09-01-2016, 06:20 PM
I wouldn't buy a jack if it's not high lift they are known for a quality product. And yeah a bottle jack will be my next jack.

Brute
09-01-2016, 10:32 PM
It needs a high speed delivery system so you could pogo stick through traffic. ;)

I also think it would be helpful to have a rocket fired grapple hook to self-deploy winch with in cab controls...

mudmobeeler
09-01-2016, 11:20 PM
You know......I've been just sitting here staring at the 6300 dollars just sitting on my desk and wondering which jack I should buy. I think I found my answer. Thanks, Ed!

I have one better than that one and half the price. Send me the money first and then I'll send you the jack. [emoji16][emoji106]