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Moochie
06-04-2013, 11:16 PM
After a long and painful battle with the 3.8 engine it's time to move forward with a GM LS 5.3 (LC9).
Even though Smokey has a recently rebuilt 3.8, the engine has failed due to a lack of oil pressure. (spun bearings). Because some other hands have been in his belly, my warranty is no longer valid.
As I looked at the cost of replacing the stock engine I decided to spend a bunch more and finally give Smokey the engine and transmission he deserves. I've been in contact with an engine shop close to where I live called Turnkey Powertrain Solutions in Oceanside, CA. They do LS - JK engine swaps as the CA dealer for Las Vegas based Motech. Motech makes the kits required for this swap. We are still ironing out the details.
Here are some photos from their shop where they build many engines for the off road racing industry and others. In fact, Shannon Cambell's engines are built here.

2 LC9 engines
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Various other engines
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This one has over 800 HP
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And A Ford
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paychex.308
06-04-2013, 11:21 PM
Very Nice Moochie!!!!!!! Very Nice indeed!

jhires
06-04-2013, 11:22 PM
Very nice! looking forward to hearing how it turns out.

wayoflife
06-04-2013, 11:33 PM
Sweet!! I think you're doing the right thing. No point in jerking around with the dealership and trying to get the POS 3.8L to work for you. It's time Smokey got what he deserves - REAL POWER :thumb:

piginajeep
06-04-2013, 11:37 PM
Guess your keeping it awhile! That things going to be a rocket on 37's!!

Sweet!

jhires
06-04-2013, 11:40 PM
I bet the abandoned airport drag race is going to get a whole lot more interesting. :D

Moochie
06-04-2013, 11:42 PM
Guess your keeping it awhile! That things going to be a rocket on 37's!!

Sweet!

I was thinking about the 6.2 but, since I want to stay with 37's the 5.3 will be plenty for me. Gas mileage will even be much improved.

Moochie
06-04-2013, 11:43 PM
I bet the abandoned airport drag race is going to get a whole lot more interesting. :D

Lets set a date for 5 weeks from now. :)

piginajeep
06-04-2013, 11:44 PM
Lets set a date for 5 weeks from now. :)

I'm out, I'd like to retire with no loses

wayoflife
06-04-2013, 11:44 PM
I was thinking about the 6.2 but, since I want to stay with 37's the 5.3 will be plenty for me. Gas mileage will even be much improved.

It's nuts how that works but, your MPG should be measurably better than what you were getting with your old 3.8L. So, did you drop off your Jeep with them and if so, what kind of time frame are you looking at?

Napalm90
06-04-2013, 11:51 PM
Awsome!!!!

Moochie
06-04-2013, 11:53 PM
It's nuts how that works but, your MPG should be measurably better than what you were getting with your old 3.8L. So, did you drop off your Jeep with them and if so, what kind of time frame are you looking at?

I haven't dropped it off yet. Once I do it should take about 5 weeks to finish.

Paisano
06-04-2013, 11:55 PM
Alright Moochie! You going to change axles too? Pro Rock 60s front and Rear?


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HoosierWolf
06-04-2013, 11:56 PM
Anxiously awaiting the build thread :) congrats!

wayoflife
06-05-2013, 12:00 AM
I haven't dropped it off yet. Once I do it should take about 5 weeks to finish.

Oh man, sounds like you'll be getting Smokey back before we get Moby done!!

Moochie
06-05-2013, 12:01 AM
Alright Moochie! You going to change axles too? Pro Rock 60s front and Rear?


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I need to change my front axle as soon as possible after the engine swap. It's really bending at the housing. I'll just go with a ProRock 44 in the front and possibly a trail 60 in the rear latter. I don't plan on going to 40's.

Atch
06-05-2013, 12:25 AM
Sweet, I can't wait to watch the build. I'm hoping to do an LS swap in a few more yrs or sooner if I have trouble with my town & country motor!

JAGS
06-05-2013, 12:28 AM
This is cool to hear. While a tough pill to swallow on the $$$$ side, you've done your research and I'm sure you'll be happy with the end results. A PR 44 to boot. Also very cool!

Congrats and will keep eyes open for updates.

OverlanderJK
06-05-2013, 12:34 AM
Sweet! Glad Cindy was able to talk you into the LS. ;)

Sudz
06-05-2013, 12:39 AM
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RockyJk
06-05-2013, 12:57 AM
That's awesome congrats sir :thumbup: I've got v8 envy haha

ramin
06-05-2013, 01:02 AM
Yeah buddy :)

mcpuck
06-05-2013, 01:09 AM
Damn mooch, you are making me jones to do the same thing. I will see you at s/g to get the particulars!


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Moochie
06-05-2013, 01:19 AM
Damn mooch, you are making me jones to do the same thing. I will see you at s/g to get the particulars!


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I really wanted to get many more good years out of the rebuilt 3.8 and spend my money elsewhere. Not gonna happen. It was running pretty good until climbing the last grade on the 395 before Kramer Junction. It downshifted, RPMs went to 5000, made some funny noise and CEL was flashing. I made it to the Pilot gas station. Back to home on the flatbed.

silverbackjk
06-05-2013, 01:44 AM
This is going to be sweet:clap2::clap2::clap2:

JeepFan
06-05-2013, 01:47 AM
Congrats Moochie! You definitely have us thinking about upgrading our JK as well.

Skid_Kid
06-05-2013, 01:50 AM
Awesome!!!!! :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::rock::rock::rock::roc k:

Sharkey
06-05-2013, 01:54 AM
Holy crap! Congrats Moochie!

Strainger
06-05-2013, 02:09 AM
ALRIGHT MOOCHIE!! This just brings a great big ole smile to my face thinking how sweet your rig is going to be. Congrats my brother.

cozdude
06-05-2013, 02:10 AM
Congrats moochie!!! This is amazing news!


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10frank9
06-05-2013, 03:45 AM
Congrats Moochie. The Jeep Gods are smiling upon you finally. Looks like they were actually trying to tell you this all along, glad you listened!

Smokey will truly have a new meaning!

Moochie
06-06-2013, 12:04 AM
I dropped it off today. Used engine with only 745 miles on it will arrive this Friday. They should start the tear down soon. 3406134062
I spotted a recent customer in the parking lot.
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paychex.308
06-06-2013, 12:10 AM
VERY exciting!!!!

andrew -

JKRay
06-06-2013, 12:14 AM
Sweet!! Congrats mooch!!


Ray ⛺

Desertrat_rubi08
06-06-2013, 12:51 AM
Exciting right on

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wayoflife
06-06-2013, 12:53 AM
Awesome!! Can't wait to see Smokey on the trails again :thumb:

SDG
06-06-2013, 12:58 AM
That's exciting news Moochie! Smokey is going to be a brut once he gets his heart transplant. Congrats man.

MTG
06-06-2013, 01:37 AM
Wow! A bit late to this one. Congrats Moochie!

munstie
06-06-2013, 02:08 AM
First off congrats on the upgrade:thumbup: Second what kinda gear ratio would you need for 37's and the V-8 upgrade.

2011 JKU 3.5 R.E. Longarm lift.

Moochie
06-06-2013, 02:30 AM
First off congrats on the upgrade:thumbup: Second what kinda gear ratio would you need for 37's and the V-8 upgrade.

2011 JKU 3.5 R.E. Longarm lift.

For know I am staying with the 5:13's I'm already using but, might need to change to 4:88 or 4:56's. I'll wait to see how it does on the road. The new transmission is a 6 speed.

Napalm90
06-06-2013, 02:33 AM
Lower? :confused:


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OverlanderJK
06-06-2013, 02:35 AM
For know I am staying with the 5:13's I'm already using but, might need to change to 4:88 or 4:56's. I'll wait to see how it does on the road. The new transmission is a 6 speed.

Hmmm I see a drivetrain swap in my future. :D

Moochie
06-06-2013, 02:39 AM
Lower? :confused:


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Gears will be higher. With the bigger engine 5:13's could be to low.

FoxC
06-06-2013, 04:59 AM
You guys are driving me crazy with all these LS swap's!:sigh:

OverlanderJK
06-06-2013, 05:05 AM
You guys are driving me crazy with all these LS swap's!:sigh:

Right! Just glad I have a 3.6. :thumb:

Moochie
06-06-2013, 05:13 AM
I would have been OK with my 3.8 for a few more years. Sometimes you have to do the unexpected. This will be quite the improvement though. :)

gtony12
06-06-2013, 05:15 AM
I would have been OK with my 3.8 for a few more years. Sometimes you have to do the unexpected. This will be quite the improvement though. :)

I am looking forward to see how your build turns out, super jealous.:):thumbup:

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Rascal3
06-06-2013, 07:10 AM
Congrats :thumb:can't wait to see how it turns out

hinrichs
06-06-2013, 04:01 PM
congrats moochie, shame about the new motor but the v8 will be so nice, very jealous

firecrew1
06-06-2013, 04:07 PM
Thats awesome, congrats on getting a much needed 5.3l cant wait to see it:thumb:

Linebacker
06-06-2013, 05:09 PM
No doubt about it, you are doing the right thing. Yank the turd and install the herd (of ponies, that is)!:yup:

JKAnimal
06-06-2013, 07:12 PM
This is going to be an awesome build. It will be nice you can stop posting pics of poor smokey on the flatbeds! He will actually get some good trail time in and be able to keep up with Moby. :rock:

Congratulations! Should be nice not having to worry about breaking down.

Moochie
06-06-2013, 07:22 PM
This is going to be an awesome build. It will be nice you can stop posting pics of poor smokey on the flatbeds! He will actually get some good trail time in and be able to keep up with Moby. :rock:

Congratulations! Should be nice not having to worry about breaking down.

Smokey likes getting rides on flat beds. I'm hoping that this will break him of the habit. Lately it's RubiCat that has been making him work so hard. :)

Krieger
06-06-2013, 09:44 PM
I was doing some thinking and what about the Mopar 4.7 I had one of those in my Dodge and it was great.

Moochie
06-06-2013, 10:40 PM
I was doing some thinking and what about the Mopar 4.7 I had one of those in my Dodge and it was great.

I don't know anything about the Mopar 4.7. Compared to the Hemi's, the LS 5.3 has an aluminum block which helps to keep the weight down to just a little more than the 3.8. The GM engine fits better and doesn't have over heating issues.

Krieger
06-07-2013, 04:33 AM
I found an article on the 4.7 just some food for thought.

Chrysler’s first truly new V-8 since the 1960s, the Next Generation 4.7 (briefly dubbed “Corsair”) had better power, gas mileage, and emissions than the 318 V8 it replaced; a new truckV6, the 3.7, was based on it, as well. The engine was reportedly designed as a replacement for the 4-liter AMC I-6, with the 3.7 to replace the AMC 2.5. According to Bob Sheaves, the concept originated at AMC, before the company joined Chrysler.

EGR and knock sensors were added in 2005. In model year 2008, Chrysler replaced the 4.7 liter V8 with a new version. Power went from 230 hp to 290 hp (and up to 320 lb-feet of torque) with that move; gas mileage went up, and noise and vibration went down. The new 4.7-liter V-8 features 5.7-Hemi features such as two spark plugs per cylinder, with a high 9.8:1 compression ratio, and better port flow; but it has a new slant/squish combustion system design.

Refinements included significant revisions to the induction system, reduced reciprocating mass via a lightweight piston/rod assembly, and reduced accessory drive speed. A new normally open valve lash adjuster system smooths the engine at idle, while electronic throttle control is needed for new stability systems. The engine will be manufactured at the Mack Avenue Engine Complex in Detroit.

Production is slated to end in July 2013, according to “pgcooldad,” a date which corresponds to other sources. No plans have been raised for the plant itself; the 3.7 V6 equipment will move to Trenton in summer 2012. He wrote, “I believe that dealers want the 4.7L because they can offer the customer an upgrade, the Hemi. Once the Hemi is the base engine it no longer becomes ‘premium.’” The 3.6 V6 produces around the same horsepower, but falls around 60 lb-ft of torque short, an issue for trucks.

wayoflife
06-07-2013, 05:36 AM
I don't know anything about the Mopar 4.7. Compared to the Hemi's, the LS 5.3 has an aluminum block which helps to keep the weight down to just a little more than the 3.8. The GM engine fits better and doesn't have over heating issues.

Just did a body test fit today and man, it was like a glove. We've seen HEMI installs and it literally requires the serious beating in of the firewall to get it to clear. The LS is a MUCH better fit.

Moochie
06-07-2013, 05:40 AM
Just did a body test fit today and man, it was like a glove. We've seen HEMI installs and it literally requires the serious beating in of the firewall to get it to clear. The LS is a MUCH better fit.

I should be seeing body - chassis separation soon.

OverlanderJK
06-07-2013, 05:42 AM
I should be seeing body - chassis separation soon.

We have lift off. :rock:

munstie
06-07-2013, 05:44 AM
Man you guys are killing me with the V-8 swaps, hit a few muddy nasty hills at Redbird last week that laughed at my 3.8

2011 JKU 3.5 R.E. Longarm lift.

wayoflife
06-07-2013, 05:57 AM
I should be seeing body - chassis separation soon.

that is so cool!! :thumb:


Man you guys are killing me with the V-8 swaps, hit a few muddy nasty hills at Redbird last week that laughed at my 3.8

2011 JKU 3.5 R.E. Longarm lift.

LOL!! Oh the humiliation :grayno: :cheesy:

munstie
06-07-2013, 06:06 AM
that is so cool!! :thumb:



LOL!! Oh the humiliation :grayno: :cheesy:

Hanging my head, I felt like the little engine that couldn't:(

2011 JKU 3.5 R.E. Longarm lift.

Moochie
06-11-2013, 01:29 AM
If everything goes right the body should be removed by tonight. I'm hoping to take some photos in the morning.

Moochie
06-11-2013, 07:42 PM
Tonight's the night for separation. Here are a few photos from today:
Smokey's new heart
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Getting ready to raise the body
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Parts arriving
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wayoflife
06-11-2013, 07:43 PM
Woohoo!! Looks badass just sitting there :)

cozdude
06-11-2013, 08:05 PM
YAY FOR SMOKEY!!!!! that V8 looks badass :rock:

Desertrat_rubi08
06-11-2013, 09:14 PM
The viewing pleasure on this forum, in respect to the two badace LS motor installs, is simply out of control! And to think these two get to play together.. How fun

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rinkishjk
06-11-2013, 09:44 PM
Looking like alot of parts to go in! It's coming along great Moochie! :beer:

OverlanderJK
06-11-2013, 09:57 PM
You think this will void your lifetime power train warranty? :cheesy:

Looks badass! I'm comin up for a rise along when its ready! :thumb:

paychex.308
06-11-2013, 10:05 PM
Looks like everything is coming together nicely!!! :thumb:

Moochie
06-11-2013, 10:09 PM
You think this will void your lifetime power train warranty? :cheesy:

Looks badass! I'm comin up for a rise along when its ready! :thumb:

I can kiss that thing good by.

JAGS
06-11-2013, 10:13 PM
Very cool to see the progress Moochie.

Moochie
06-11-2013, 10:19 PM
Things are happening now. Just like on Moby my EVO sliders will have to be cut off in order for the lift to get under the pinch seam. This is how the body will be lifted.
Most of this work happens after the engine shop is closed for the day. The swap team works after hours. I should have more photos tomorrow.

Moochie
06-12-2013, 10:16 PM
Separated!
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2012 Escalade transmission
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Next will be removal of the engine, transmission and t-case.

OverlanderJK
06-12-2013, 10:20 PM
Motor and tranny are from an escalade?

Moochie
06-12-2013, 10:27 PM
Motor and tranny are from an escalade?

The engine is from a truck. They are from different vehicles. It takes a little more work( programming) if they weren't originally matched up together.

hydroslyder
06-12-2013, 10:27 PM
Random question: Why didn't you cut the sliders at the frame as opposed to out at the outside rail?

firecrew1
06-12-2013, 10:32 PM
Congrats on the new motor, cant wait to see it back together:thumb:

Moochie
06-12-2013, 10:47 PM
Random question: Why didn't you cut the sliders at the frame as opposed to out at the outside rail?

It was easier to cut through them at that point and when they are reattached a sleeve will be inserted in to the tubes with some rosette welds to secure the sleeve and then welded around the tubes when they are reconnected.

Canvas JK
06-12-2013, 11:13 PM
Moochie this is way too cool. Look forward to someday being able to hang with the kool kids :cool: in SO CAL.

Moochie
06-12-2013, 11:16 PM
Moochie this is way too cool. Look forward to someday being able to hang with the kool kids :cool: in SO CAL.

I see you're in Florida. Maybe someday we can meet up. :)

hydroslyder
06-13-2013, 12:26 AM
Thanks for the reply, that was the main reason I asked, I was curious what the plan for reattachment was. :thumb:
It was easier to cut through them at that point and when they are reattached a sleeve will be inserted in to the tubes with some rosette welds to secure the sleeve and then welded around the tubes when they are reconnected.

Canvas JK
06-13-2013, 01:03 AM
I see you're in Florida. Maybe someday we can meet up. :)

Actually right now I am in Okinawa for deployment. I do miss San Diego a ton. Spent the first 8 1/2 years of my career there.

Moochie
06-14-2013, 09:01 PM
No more 3.8
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Next the OEM motor mount brackets are to be removed and the new Motech LS brackets will be burned in.

OverlanderJK
06-14-2013, 09:04 PM
Woohoo! No more mini van motor!!

paychex.308
06-14-2013, 09:11 PM
someone needs to get in there with a brush, some soapy water and a couple cans of flat black!!! coming along nicely Moochie!

jhires
06-14-2013, 09:13 PM
I find the fact that the rotopax containers are still on quite humorous.

Moochie
06-14-2013, 09:28 PM
someone needs to get in there with a brush, some soapy water and a couple cans of flat black!!! coming along nicely Moochie!

Most of the demo is done now. It's going to be power washed and the paint will be touched up.

Moochie
06-14-2013, 09:29 PM
I find the fact that the rotopax containers are still on quite humorous.

You never know when you might need some gas or a drink of plastic tasting water. :)

Moochie
06-14-2013, 09:32 PM
Woohoo! No more mini van motor!!

Adios!!!!!

gtony12
06-14-2013, 09:33 PM
Way COOL, can wait to see more!:yup:

paychex.308
06-14-2013, 09:34 PM
Most of the demo is done now. It's going to be power washed and the paint will be touched up.

:thumbup:

andrew -

Moochie
06-15-2013, 04:42 AM
What's missing?
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OverlanderJK
06-15-2013, 04:44 AM
What's missing?
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Not sure. Seems to look like the same powerhouse as before. :cheesy: :D

MTG
06-15-2013, 04:45 AM
What's missing?
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Washer fluid looks a little low.

Looks great Moochie. Can't wait to see it in person.

Moochie
06-15-2013, 04:50 AM
Not sure. Seems to look like the same powerhouse as before. :cheesy: :D

You're right! And I seem to have misplaced my radiator cap.

OverlanderJK
06-15-2013, 04:53 AM
You're right! And I seem to have misplaced my radiator cap.

Noticed that too but I figured one thing at a time.

Moochie
06-15-2013, 04:53 AM
Washer fluid looks a little low.

Looks great Moochie. Can't wait to see it in person.

Thanks Mike! It could be driveable in 2 weeks.

Sharkey
06-15-2013, 05:13 AM
Thanks Mike! It could be driveable in 2 weeks.

Seriously? That's great news! You deserve some good fortune from the Jeep gods Moochie. You've had to put up with a lot of en route breakdowns in the last six months and you've done so without whining about it. Here's some :honey: towards a speedy, successful build for you.

Canvas JK
06-15-2013, 05:52 AM
What's missing?
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Not vice grips. BTW how did you hook up the disconnect switch on your battery? Very interesting. Also do you have the King Coilover bolt on kit?

R/
Will

Moochie
06-15-2013, 06:21 AM
Not vice grips. BTW how did you hook up the disconnect switch on your battery? Very interesting. Also do you have the King Coilover bolt on kit?

R/
Will

I picked up that battery disconnect at Camping World. It is used on the negative post. I need to cut the power when I tow the Jeep behind my RV because the key is turned to the first position to unlock the steering. Required 2007 - 2009. If not, it will cause the battery to discharge over a long tow.
That's the bolt on coilover suspension kit from EVO Manufacturing. It uses King coilovers designed & valved for EVO.
You have a good eye, you spotted the vice grips. :)

Moochie
06-15-2013, 06:26 AM
Seriously? That's great news! You deserve some good fortune from the Jeep gods Moochie. You've had to put up with a lot of en route breakdowns in the last six months and you've done so without whining about it. Here's some :honey: towards a speedy, successful build for you.

I had to pay off the Jeep gods, they are so greedy. I hope they are happy now.
Thanks Sharkey!

Canvas JK
06-15-2013, 06:51 AM
That's the bolt on coilover suspension kit from EVO Manufacturing. It uses King coilovers designed & valved for EVO.
You have a good eye, you spotted the vice grips. :)

I am saving up my pennies to upgrade my suspension as soon as SWMBO will allow for more mods.

As a Quality Assurance Supervisor for the Navy I have been trained to spot things which are out of the ordinary.

Thanks for the info.

R/
Will

LetsGoMuddin
06-15-2013, 05:02 PM
I had to pay off the Jeep gods, they are so greedy. I hope they are happy now.
Thanks Sharkey!

Ha ha Jeep gods! Looking good!


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Desertrat_rubi08
06-17-2013, 03:28 AM
Hey Moochie, out of curiosity, what's the total mileage on the jeeps undercarriage at the point she went in for a heart transplant?

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OverlanderJK
06-17-2013, 03:32 AM
About 70,000 or so I think.

Desertrat_rubi08
06-17-2013, 04:05 AM
About 70,000 or so I think.

Thanks, overlanderjk, good luck with the post count.

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OverlanderJK
06-17-2013, 04:06 AM
Thanks, overlanderjk, good luck with the post count.

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:cheesy: good one. :crazyeyes:

Moochie
06-17-2013, 04:38 AM
About 70,000 or so I think.

Closer to 83,000 by the time the rebuilt engine failed.

Skid_Kid
06-17-2013, 03:34 PM
Lookin good Moochie!

Linebacker
06-17-2013, 03:54 PM
This is so cool watching Smokey and Moby getting simultaneous heart transplants. It'll be very interesting comparing notes on MPG and performance on and off road when both are finished and de-bugged. There are just enough differences between the two to make comparisons worthwhile for future builds.:yup:

cozdude
06-17-2013, 03:57 PM
This is so cool watching Smokey and Moby getting heart simultaneous transplants. It'll be very interesting comparing notes on MPG and performance on and off road when both are finished and de-bugged. There are just enough differences between the two to make comparisons worthwhile for future builds.:yup:

^^^ totally agree! looking forward to both beasts being complete :rock:

Moochie
06-17-2013, 04:07 PM
I picked up a non-rubicon transfer case for Smokey. For this swap, with the GM 6L80 transmission, it is necessary to get rid of the rubicon 4:1 transfer case. The new tranny already has a 4:1 1st gear. Of course you can use an Atlas but, that would add more to the cost of the swap. I'll probably do this eventually.

Ragnar JK
06-17-2013, 05:58 PM
Looks great Moochie. Keeping up with you and Eddie on the freeway now is going to be impossible - may cause a rash of engine swaps all by itself.

JAGS
06-17-2013, 06:51 PM
Looks great Moochie. Keeping up with you and Eddie on the freeway now is going to be impossible - may cause a rash of engine swaps all by itself.

I'll be about 3 ft behind either at all times. I plan on having a tow bar installed and they can pull me along behind. Lol. 😂😉😂

OverlanderJK
06-17-2013, 06:52 PM
I picked up a non-rubicon transfer case for Smokey. For this swap, with the GM 6L80 transmission, it is necessary to get rid of the rubicon 4:1 transfer case. The new tranny already has a 4:1 1st gear. Of course you can use an Atlas but, that would add more to the cost of the swap. I'll probably do this eventually.

What did you do with your old one?

Moochie
06-17-2013, 07:22 PM
I don't have it anymore.

Moochie
06-20-2013, 08:28 PM
The frame is all cleaned up. 36196
New Motech motor mounts welded in. 3619736198
Aluminum radiator. 3619936200
Leftover junk after modifying the OEM wiring harness. 36201

wayoflife
06-20-2013, 08:32 PM
Wow!! Your Jeep is gonna be like new when all is said and done :thumb:

cozdude
06-20-2013, 08:33 PM
coming along fast Moochie! you might be back on the road before Eddie at the pace your going

TeamFaust
06-21-2013, 05:09 PM
Wow, looking great!!

Moochie
06-25-2013, 09:42 PM
Out with the old
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Soon to be, in with the new
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paychex.308
06-25-2013, 09:44 PM
So very awesome Moochie! :thumb:

FoxC
06-25-2013, 11:50 PM
Bad ass Moochie! I bet you cant wait to bury your right foot into that:yup:

Canvas JK
06-26-2013, 12:03 AM
Moochie, what type of exhaust are you going to run?

Moochie
06-26-2013, 12:16 AM
Moochie, what type of exhaust are you going to run?

3 GM cats and a small Magnaflow muffler. One of the cats is located where my old Dynomax muffler used to be. The new muffler will be mounted between the evap canister & frame. Some heat shielding will be added to protect the canister. I don't have the model number of the muffler yet.

rinkishjk
06-26-2013, 12:16 AM
Looking dam sweet!!!!!!

Moochie
06-26-2013, 12:20 AM
Getting ready to install the radiator.
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Canvas JK
06-26-2013, 12:32 AM
3 GM cats and a small Magnaflow muffler. One of the cats is located where my old Dynomax muffler used to be. The new muffler will be mounted between the evap canister & frame. Some heat shielding will be added to protect the canister. I don't have the model number of the muffler yet.

That is going to sound so cool. Can't wait to hear it fire up.

ssh6314
06-26-2013, 12:37 AM
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Moochie
06-27-2013, 12:00 AM
Going back together. Engine, transmission & transfer case installed.
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Robar
06-27-2013, 12:09 AM
Very nice Moochie! :thumb:

10frank9
06-27-2013, 12:12 AM
Going to be badass Moochie!

RockyJk
06-27-2013, 12:13 AM
That is awesome! Bet u can't wait to be haulin ass on it at Mojave lol :thumbup:

OverlanderJK
06-27-2013, 03:14 PM
Awesome Moochie! Can't wait to see it in person!

(Next step is 60's and 40's ;))

wayoflife
06-27-2013, 03:19 PM
Looking good :thumb:

HoosierWolf
06-27-2013, 03:23 PM
So is Smokey going to be done before Moby?

hothondaguy
06-27-2013, 03:29 PM
so when Moby and Moochies jeeps are done, sounds like we need to make another run to the dry lake bed out near barstow.....just like at the 2013 kick off run.....

wayoflife
06-27-2013, 03:34 PM
So is Smokey going to be done before Moby?

Due to the fact that we are heading up to Tahoe for the better part of July, Smokey will most likely be done before Moby :grayno:


so when Moby and Moochies jeeps are done, sounds like we need to make another run to the dry lake bed out near barstow.....just like at the 2013 kick off run.....

Now that sounds like a great idea :thumb:

Moochie
06-27-2013, 03:52 PM
so when Moby and Moochies jeeps are done, sounds like we need to make another run to the dry lake bed out near barstow.....just like at the 2013 kick off run.....

Sorry, no drag races until I get the wheelie bar mounted on the back.

Moochie
06-27-2013, 03:54 PM
I could have the body back on by Monday afternoon.

SDG
06-27-2013, 04:43 PM
That's awesome Moochie!

You are going to have Smokey back in action while mine is still sitting on the lift at the shop lol. Randy said hello by the way! Haha.

Moochie
06-27-2013, 04:48 PM
That's awesome Moochie!

You are going to have Smokey back in action while mine is still sitting on the lift at the shop lol. Randy said hello by the way! Haha.

Good ole Randy! Have they figured out what's wrong with your transmission?

Robar
06-27-2013, 05:09 PM
Sorry, no drag races until I get the wheelie bar mounted on the back.

A wheelie bar is going to mess with you departure angles. You might just put some tractor weights up front. :yup:

SDG
06-27-2013, 07:41 PM
Good ole Randy! Have they figured out what's wrong with your transmission?

Nope. They have had it since Tuesday and need to observe the problem again before chrysler will tell them what to randomly replace next. Chrysler told them just to give it back to me, because obviously there is no problem and I just like dropping it off there when nothing is wrong.

Moochie
07-10-2013, 12:29 AM
Body back on and after some more work done tonight, it should be running tomorrow. Maybe driveable by Fri. (but not finished)
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Almost done in the engine compartment.3916239163
It's nice having a body & chassis reunion. 39164391653916639167

wayoflife
07-10-2013, 12:52 AM
Oh man, I am so jealous!! I think you should celebrate by taking it him on a road trip :D

Moochie
07-10-2013, 12:58 AM
I'd love to take a road trip! This weekend would be pushing it though. :)

OverlanderJK
07-10-2013, 01:19 AM
I'd love to take a road trip! This weekend would be pushing it though. :)

Let me know when it's ready so I can come get a ride along. :thumb:

Trail Bud
07-10-2013, 02:19 AM
Sorry, no drag races until I get the wheelie bar mounted on the back.

This cracked me up!! :cheesy:
I guess my co pilot is gone forever.... :misery:
Nice build Carl!! Can't wait to see it. I guess you'll have it for Tahoe? It looks like will will have it ready, cool!!

OverlanderJK
07-10-2013, 02:22 AM
This cracked me up!! :cheesy:
I guess my co pilot is gone forever.... :misery:
Nice build Carl!! Can't wait to see it. I guess you'll have it for Tahoe? It looks like will will have it ready, cool!!

You won't be able to keep up with anybody now Doug. Time for an upgrade. :thumb: ;)

JeepFan
07-10-2013, 02:25 AM
Looks great Carl. You'll be cruising to Tahoe in overdrive before you know it.

Doug. I think you're next for the LS conversion

Trail Bud
07-10-2013, 02:27 AM
My motor is still going.
I think I can, I think I can... ;)

Moochie
07-10-2013, 02:27 AM
This cracked me up!! :cheesy:
I guess my co pilot is gone forever.... :misery:
Nice build Carl!! Can't wait to see it. I guess you'll have it for Tahoe? Or do I have a copilot again? :D

Thanks Doug! Forever is a longtime. I hate to say it but, some day we could be Jeep buddy's again. Lol. It will be making a trip North on the 395 and it better make it past Kramer Junction this time.

Trail Bud
07-10-2013, 02:07 PM
Thanks Doug! Forever is a longtime. I hate to say it but, some day we could be Jeep buddy's again. Lol. It will be making a trip North on the 395 and it better make it past Kramer Junction this time.

See you soon.

mcpuck
07-10-2013, 02:16 PM
Looking good! Damn Mooch if that were my Jeep I think I would wet my pants. :crazyeyes:

Moochie
07-12-2013, 12:56 AM
Smokey's alive again!
He took a short drive from Turn Key's shop to a muffler shop to get the exhaust system finished. I should be able to take him out for a test drive tomorrow.
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Napalm90
07-12-2013, 01:20 AM
Smokey's alive again!
He took a short drive from Turn Key's shop to a muffler shop to get the exhaust system finished. I should be able to take him out for a test drive tomorrow.
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:rock::rock::rock::rock: Cant wait to see Smokey in action!

Paisano
07-12-2013, 01:27 AM
Sweet Carl...I'm excited to for you! Yes a road trip soon is in order.:wings:

Trail Bud
07-12-2013, 01:30 AM
Video tape the test drive if you can. I want to hear what it sounds like with the muffler.
Smokey's going to have a deep voice now. He's all grown up...:D :cheesy:

Moochie
07-12-2013, 01:37 AM
Thanks guys! I'll try to get a recording of the exhaust. If not, you'll hear it soon Doug. 

DJCFHB
07-12-2013, 02:04 AM
Coming along nicely

wayoflife
07-12-2013, 02:41 AM
Man, I am so jealous!!

Moochie
07-12-2013, 02:47 AM
Man, I am so jealous!!

Your baby's waiting for you to come home. It won't be long before we will all be trying to catch up to Moby again. Lol

JeepFan
07-12-2013, 02:50 AM
What Eddie said!!! ^^^^^^^^^^

Canvas JK
07-12-2013, 03:15 AM
So glad to see you are getting Smokey back.

JKRay
07-12-2013, 03:31 AM
Awesome moochie!! Can't wait to see smokey on the trail again!


Ray ⛺

daveroberts
07-12-2013, 03:45 AM
Moochie I know I have given you a lot of crap about not really owning a Jeep all in good fun, but I'm super happy to see you getting it all put together. Can't wait to see it on the trail soon!

Moochie
07-12-2013, 03:49 AM
So glad to see you are getting Smokey back.
It will still be about a week before I get him back. The owner of Turn Key will drive it about 250 miles to make sure there are no problems. After this he will take it to a smog referee shop to get a new California emissions certificate sticker for the B pillar

Awesome moochie!! Can't wait to see smokey on the trail again!


Ray ⛺

Thanks Ray! It won't be long.

Moochie
07-12-2013, 03:54 AM
Moochie I know I have given you a lot of crap about not really owning a Jeep all in good fun, but I'm super happy to see you getting it all put together. Can't wait to see it on the trail soon!

Thanks Dave, lately I've been starting to think that I don't even have a Jeep! Lol

10frank9
07-12-2013, 03:55 AM
Right on Moochie! Bet you're excited. That wait must have felt like eternity!

OverlanderJK
07-12-2013, 04:37 AM
Awesome! Can't wait to see and hear him!

Skid_Kid
07-13-2013, 04:03 AM
Wicked Awesome! Cannot wait to see it in person! :thumb:

paychex.308
07-13-2013, 04:07 AM
so awesome moochie!!! cant wait to see/hear that beast!

andrew-

Moochie
07-13-2013, 04:19 AM
I thought I was going to get a chance to drive it today. It never happened because it didn't get finished at the muffler shop. :(

Skid_Kid
07-13-2013, 04:21 AM
Any chance for tomorrow?

OverlanderJK
07-13-2013, 04:24 AM
I thought I was going to get a chance to drive it today. It never happened because it didn't get finished at the muffler shop. :(

You don't need one of those to drive it. :thumb: :cheesy:

Moochie
07-13-2013, 04:26 AM
Any chance for tomorrow?

It's possible. If it was returned back to the shop that did the install and someone is there tomorrow. I'll check in the morning.

Moochie
07-13-2013, 04:28 AM
You don't need one of those to drive it. :thumb: :cheesy:

I wanted to hear it before the cats and muffler was on. I missed this too.

Skid_Kid
07-13-2013, 04:29 AM
I wanted to hear it before the cats and muffler was on. I missed this too.

That would have been sweet!

Berzerker
07-13-2013, 05:48 AM
You are going to miss all the great things about the 3.8. Like..... well.....
Now that I think about it, I don't miss anything about the 3.8.
Seriously, so happy for you!

SDG
07-13-2013, 09:09 AM
Moochie,

Once your on the road if you need a chase car let me know. Rocking a sweet chrysler 200 at the moment and i am pretty sure i could follow you from a half mile and make a sweet video!

Nevermind the windshield wiper coming on every time i use the turn signal, i was told its a chrysler thing and you just wouldnt understand.

Moochie
07-13-2013, 01:30 PM
Moochie,

Once your on the road if you need a chase car let me know. Rocking a sweet chrysler 200 at the moment and i am pretty sure i could follow you from a half mile and make a sweet video!

Nevermind the windshield wiper coming on every time i use the turn signal, i was told its a chrysler thing and you just wouldnt understand.

Did the dealership finally decide to replace your transmission?

Moochie
07-13-2013, 01:32 PM
You are going to miss all the great things about the 3.8. Like..... well.....
Now that I think about it, I don't miss anything about the 3.8.
Seriously, so happy for you!

You are so right about this. Good by 3.8!

SDG
07-13-2013, 08:43 PM
Did the dealership finally decide to replace your transmission?

Best info I could get was that they are "fixing" it. Its been pulled for a week and they are playing go fish with Chrysler on the existing one. Couldn't really get an update on when it would be done or what they were actually doing to it, just that they were pulling it apart are replacing what they were told.

Moochie
07-17-2013, 03:53 AM
Mr. Smokey is going to the smog referee station tomorrow to get a new California emissions approval sticker for the B pillar. One of the last very important things to be done on this engine swap.

Canvas JK
07-17-2013, 05:59 AM
Mr. Smokey is going to the smog referee station tomorrow to get a new California emissions approval sticker for the B pillar. One of the last very important things to be done on this engine swap.

Too Cool. can't wait to see Mr. Smokey in action.

Thefuzz
07-17-2013, 09:42 AM
This is so cool watching Smokey and Moby getting simultaneous heart transplants. It'll be very interesting comparing notes on MPG and performance on and off road when both are finished and de-bugged. There are just enough differences between the two to make comparisons worthwhile for future builds.:yup:

I'm definitely interested in comparisons. My 2011 will be due in a year or so and I'd love some real on/off road stats to decide on what mine will need.

Trail Bud
07-17-2013, 11:37 AM
Mr. Smokey is going to the smog referee station tomorrow to get a new California emissions approval sticker for the B pillar. One of the last very important things to be done on this engine swap.

almost done!!
Oh now it's "Mr" Smokey ;)

RockyJk
07-17-2013, 11:51 AM
almost done!!
Oh now it's "Mr" Smokey ;)

He's grown up lol

jelliott076
07-17-2013, 12:34 PM
Did the dealership finally decide to replace your transmission?


Best info I could get was that they are "fixing" it. Its been pulled for a week and they are playing go fish with Chrysler on the existing one. Couldn't really get an update on when it would be done or what they were actually doing to it, just that they were pulling it apart are replacing what they were told.

Does Motech have a kit to convert Smokey's current tranny to mate up with the new V-8? or are you going to have to follow suit with Moby and go for the full package. I've already decided I'm driving this engine into the dirt and then doing the conversion, I just want to know how deep in the weeds I'm going to get financially before I get committed to the build.

Linebacker
07-17-2013, 02:20 PM
Been following this thread with lots of interest. Is it just me or are the GM L family of engines becoming the weapon of choice for conversions?:thinking: Love the Hemi, but overheating @ 1/2mph in 115 degree weather isn't appealing.:grayno: Good choice and best of luck for a long run with "Smokey".:yup:

MTG
07-17-2013, 03:19 PM
Mr. Smokey is going to the smog referee station tomorrow to get a new California emissions approval sticker for the B pillar. One of the last very important things to be done on this engine swap.

Very nice! Can't wait to drive...er...see it soon. 👍

SDG
07-17-2013, 05:17 PM
Does Motech have a kit to convert Smokey's current tranny to mate up with the new V-8? or are you going to have to follow suit with Moby and go for the full package. I've already decided I'm driving this engine into the dirt and then doing the conversion, I just want to know how deep in the weeds I'm going to get financially before I get committed to the build.



Moochie said he is going with GM 6L80 tranny. Ihave read somewhere the NAG1 is supposedly good up to 400 something hp but don't quote me on that. Not sure what tranny smokey currently has btw.

Moochie
07-17-2013, 05:55 PM
Moochie said he is going with GM 6L80 tranny. Ihave read somewhere the NAG1 is supposedly good up to 400 something hp but don't quote me on that. Not sure what tranny smokey currently has btw.

Correct. 6L80 transmission is required for this swap. It's a much better, 6 speed transmission. You can't use a rubicon transfer case. Atlas or a sport/Sahara will work. I'm using a sport t-case. And from what I've been told, an Atlas can't be used if your flat tow your Jeep on the ground.

bluewave
07-17-2013, 05:57 PM
Moochie said he is going with GM 6L80 tranny. Ihave read somewhere the NAG1 is supposedly good up to 400 something hp but don't quote me on that. Not sure what tranny smokey currently has btw.

they went with the 6l80 and im doing the 6l90, they are the only way to go and get great fuel mileage. and have good low end power. I like the fact I can run 4.88 gears and 37s-40s on the highway without any issues.

Moochie
07-17-2013, 09:53 PM
Smokey's new engine is now officially California smog legal.
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The smog referee said that "you could not commit suicide with this vehicle if you tried, it runs so clean". LOL

OverlanderJK
07-17-2013, 09:55 PM
Awesome! Almost home now.

bluewave
07-17-2013, 10:00 PM
congrats I think you are #5 to get the sticker!

Sharkey
07-17-2013, 10:03 PM
Smokey's new engine is now officially California smog legal.
The smog referee said that "you could not commit suicide with this vehicle if you tried, it runs so clean". LOL

Too cool Moochie! Congrats! Even without hearing Smokey purr, that sticker just looks damn sweet.:rock:

Krynn
07-17-2013, 10:05 PM
First, and most importantly, congrats on the sticker!!! :drinks:


Correct. 6L80 transmission is required for this swap. It's a much better, 6 speed transmission. You can't use a rubicon transfer case. Atlas or a sport/Sahara will work. I'm using a sport t-case. And from what I've been told, an Atlas can't be used if your flat tow your Jeep on the ground.

I thought you could flat tow with a 2-speed Atlas? I seem to remember reading that it wasn't recommended with the 4-speed, but you could do it with the 2-speed. There were some limitations though, unlike with the stock transfer case.

EDIT: Ah, found it!
http://www.advanceadapters.com/knowledgebase/atlas-oil/
"DO NOT FLAT TOW an Atlas 4 Speed without removing the drive shafts! The planetary unit AND additional bearings will NOT receive the oil needed as they would under normal driving conditions- damage will occur! We can only recommend flat towing an Atlas 2 Speed (after the 500 mile break-in period) for a maximum distance of 300 miles and then starting up the vehicle and with transmission in gear and Atlas 2 Speed in neutral letting it idle for 5-10 minutes. If you do not wish to stop and circulate the oil, we actually prefer that you remove the drive shafts from the vehicle."

Moochie
07-17-2013, 10:14 PM
It's good to know that a 2 speed can be flat towed. It is a bit of a hassle with having to stop and circulate the fluid every 300 miles. If you forget, it could be disastrous. I'd probably start putting it on a trailer.

Canvas JK
07-17-2013, 10:48 PM
It's good to know that a 2 speed can be flat towed. It is a bit of a hassle with having to stop and circulate the fluid every 300 miles. If you forget, it could be disastrous. I'd probably start putting it on a trailer.

Might have to get some baby wheels so Mr. Smokey will fit on a trailer.

KenB1010
07-19-2013, 01:10 PM
Hi Carl, I'm sorry to hear that you had to go this route. That said your doing a great build. I can't wait to see Mr. smokey at the drag strip. Also after having the atlas installed for a couple of years, think about installing it now if its an option. The atlas is just that good. 👊😃👊

OverlanderJK
07-22-2013, 01:54 PM
So how is Mr. Smokey driving now?

DJCFHB
07-25-2013, 12:02 AM
Ready to hear about how its driving.

Moochie
07-25-2013, 12:33 AM
Smokey's new engine is awesome. Plenty of power now. The engine swap still needs some fine tuning though.
I just dropped it off at Off Road Evolution to have a ProRock 44 installed. This needed to be done because after 83,000 miles, the stock front axle tubes were starting to bend at the connection to the diff housing.
Also, Mel is going to figure out how to protect the oil & transmission pans with a skid plate.

Canvas JK
07-25-2013, 12:34 AM
I cannot wait to see Mr Smokey in action.

Skorpius
07-25-2013, 12:45 AM
any pics of it finished install or did I miss them?

Moochie
07-25-2013, 12:49 AM
Hi Carl, I'm sorry to hear that you had to go this route. That said your doing a great build. I can't wait to see Mr. smokey at the drag strip. Also after having the atlas installed for a couple of years, think about installing it now if its an option. The atlas is just that good. 👊😃👊

For now I just opted for the sport t-case (can't use the Rubicon t-case). The Atlas 4 speed can't be used if flat towing. You can use the 2 speed but, I would have to stop and run the engine every 300 miles for 15 minutes. Maybe someday, if I decide to put it on a trailer.

Moochie
07-25-2013, 12:52 AM
any pics of it finished install or did I miss them?

No pictures of the finished swap yet. I'll get some up soon.

Moochie
07-25-2013, 12:57 AM
No pictures of the finished swap yet. I'll get some up soon.

Here is a not so good photo. I'll have to wait until I see it again for more. 41267

Skorpius
07-25-2013, 01:28 AM
Here is a not so good photo. I'll have to wait until I see it again for more. 41267

Wow that turned out clean and almost looks like more room on the sides then stock can't wait too see better pics once you get it rapped up.

MTG
07-25-2013, 01:36 AM
Here is a not so good photo. I'll have to wait until I see it again for more.

Looked like it was at ORE. What's being done now?

Edit: good thing reading comprehension skills aren't part of my job description. ;)

JKJody
07-25-2013, 02:04 AM
Wow that is clean. Looks better than the hemi swaps!

Moochie
07-25-2013, 02:06 AM
Looked like it was at ORE. What's being done now?

Edit: good thing reading comprehension skills aren't part of my job description. ;)

Are you lurking on FB? Lol

Serg5000
07-25-2013, 03:19 AM
Kick ass Man. Your rig is becoming one sick machine.

MTG
07-25-2013, 04:20 AM
Are you lurking on FB? Lol

Guilty as charged! :blush:

Ever since JKX, and your influence, I check several FB pages for my daily picture fix. I still don't have an account though. LOL!

OverlanderJK
07-25-2013, 04:22 AM
Glad he's getting his new axle but bummed I have to wait two more weeks to see him.

Sithwindu
07-25-2013, 04:58 AM
Hey moochie, what made u go with a pr44 and not a 60? If you don't mind me asking.

Moochie
07-25-2013, 06:01 AM
Hey moochie, what made u go with a pr44 and not a 60? If you don't mind me asking.

I'm not ever going larger then 37"s so the ProRock 44 should be plenty for this. As for the rear, when it starts to show me a smiley face, I will replace it with a Dynatrac Trail 60. These are more affordable. I will probably carry spare rear axle shafts with me. I just have to be careful with the extra horsepower. Rear wheel flanges and axle shafts will be the weak spot. The rear tubes, housing, and ring & pinion will be much stronger.

Sithwindu
07-25-2013, 06:05 AM
I'm feeling like ill never go to 40's so eventually ill like to upgrade to a pr44 or pr60, everyone says 60 but the price difference is huge. Just need some hard convincing to just do 44's so I can make my mind up lol

Sithwindu
07-25-2013, 06:07 AM
But sorry for derailing!!! Congrats on the set up!! Gotta make some videos of that bad boy setup!!

OverlanderJK
07-25-2013, 01:49 PM
I'm feeling like ill never go to 40's so eventually ill like to upgrade to a pr44 or pr60, everyone says 60 but the price difference is huge. Just need some hard convincing to just do 44's so I can make my mind up lol

I said that when I got my 35's and I am already thinking that maybe I would go 40's. it's only a couple grand more and when your spending $12k what's another two? :thumb:

LAJK
07-25-2013, 03:16 PM
Nice build!

SDG
07-25-2013, 07:48 PM
This is probably a silly question but I am curious why you would go with a 44 front and 60 rear, and similarly why Moby would go 60 front and 80 rear? Is it cost issue, clearance etc?

I would think with a 50/50 split you have equal torque front and rear and equal likelihood or breaking front on rear. Or is it because when in the rocks you are usually at an upward angle and therefore more weight is on the rear end and thus higher chance of breaking stuff in the rear?

hothondaguy
07-25-2013, 08:07 PM
i think it has more to do with driving to and from wheeling areas. the front end is only working when they are crawling or playing in 4wd. but the rear is always working with the V8 pushing it, i could be wrong but that is my guess

Moochie
07-25-2013, 09:49 PM
A ProRock 44 is all I need to safely run 37's and not worry about bending the tubes. It also has built in caster adjustment to help minimize front drive line vibration with a lifted Jeep. If I was going to use 40's I would need to upgrade to a ProRock 60. A Trail 60 in the rear is the next affordable step up from the stock 44. ProRock 60's front & rear (full float) can cost close to $18,000.00. Also new wheels would be necessary if the 8 lug bolt pattern is used. (Recommended)

I don't think they make an 80 for the front yet.

TheDuff
07-25-2013, 09:52 PM
The front 80 has got to be coming, coulda swore I saw it used on a recent evo build:confused:

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bl17z90
07-26-2013, 01:41 AM
Yeah they put a pro rock 80 on the front of the mighty fc

rtguy1
07-26-2013, 08:31 AM
A ProRock 44 is all I need to safely run 37's and not worry about bending the tubes. It also has built in caster adjustment to help minimize front drive line vibration with a lifted Jeep. If I was going to use 40's I would need to upgrade to a ProRock 60. A Trail 60 in the rear is the next affordable step up from the stock 44. ProRock 60's front & rear (full float) can cost close to $18,000.00. Also new wheels would be necessary if the 8 lug bolt pattern is used. (Recommended)

I don't think they make an 80 for the front yet.

agreed. depending on options 16-18k for the 60's...its not a couple grand difference. plus wheels to match the pattern, and new tierod and draglink to match the extra width. did the same setup with a pr44 up front and a pr60 in the rear. i went with a trail series 60 with the prorock 60 housing upgrade. funny thing is its much cheaper to order it that way than as a semi float prorock 60. talked to the dynatrac rep about it and he said that pricing is increased when you order as a prorock instead of trail series due to the inherent costs associated with all of the additional options available on the prorock axle. the trail series has very limited options. its the same axle as a semi float prorock 60. not sure if you knew about the prorock housing upgrade for the trail series but give it a look. I also went to the alternate width of 68.5" on both front and rear. I like your plan:thumb:

DJCFHB
07-26-2013, 03:43 PM
What gears do you plan to run with the new motor?

Moochie
07-26-2013, 03:54 PM
What gears do you plan to run with the new motor?

I have 5:13's in it now. I probably will stay with these.

FoxC
07-26-2013, 04:58 PM
Very jealous Moochie! Maybe I can hear Smokey rumble during SEMA week??:yup:

DJCFHB
08-04-2013, 05:49 PM
Curious to know what the driving characteristics are like. i have a similar set up on my rig as you and i'm trying to learn as much as i can while i wait on the funds to buy the kit (already have the motor and trans).

OverlanderJK
08-04-2013, 06:33 PM
All I know is that Mr. Smokey sounds badass!,

Linebacker
08-04-2013, 09:19 PM
I have 5:13's in it now. I probably will stay with these.

Ok, from a JK Noob I think you nailed the build. The 5.3 is strong, but not overwhelming. It has lots of torque which is what off roading is all about. When others break, you'll be yanking them out.:thumb:

Moochie
08-05-2013, 04:29 PM
Taking a short ride on a light rail transit vehicle after dropping Smokey off for some minor adjustments at Turn Key.
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KenB1010
08-05-2013, 04:44 PM
LOL, that's not a very good example of smokies reliability, if he's in the shop and your riding light trains instead of trails. 😃

Moochie
08-05-2013, 06:44 PM
LOL, that's not a very good example of smokies reliability, if he's in the shop and your riding light trains instead of trails. 😃

I like trains! Lol

Sharkey
08-05-2013, 08:08 PM
I like trains! Lol

Might not want to say that out loud too much...at least not in the bay area.

TheDuff
08-06-2013, 07:36 PM
Might not want to say that out loud too much...at least not in the bay area.

ROFL

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TeamFaust
08-08-2013, 07:12 PM
Hey Moochie, what's the status? Any more pics of completed resurrection?

Rippin Lipz
09-30-2013, 07:59 PM
What's the status on this? Is everything running ok?

Moochie
09-30-2013, 08:15 PM
What's the status on this? Is everything running ok?

It's running great. :)

jeek.olllllllo
09-30-2013, 08:18 PM
Videos please!!!

TheDuff
09-30-2013, 09:07 PM
just in time for nice weather at the local trails:D

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Trail Bud
09-30-2013, 10:11 PM
It's running great. :)

Very cool!
No more overheating?

Moochie
09-30-2013, 10:55 PM
Very cool!
No more overheating?

It only overheated once and this was on its maiden voyage. It had a bad temperature sensor and the original AC condenser needed to be replaced.
The temp will rise on long uphill grades like most vehicles do. I will always be careful to watch my gauge while climbing long and/or steep grades.

I'm not saying it's never going to happen again. More tweaking could be needed in the future.

bl17z90
09-30-2013, 11:05 PM
More "twerking" could be needed in the future.

Thats what i originally read lol