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JeepinLife
07-09-2013, 12:42 AM
So heres the question... For those of you with front and rear lockers do you prefer to lock the front or the rear where both aren't needed? I have heard this argued both ways:

Front has more weight on the tires = better traction

Rear you can push more than you can pull ect..

Everyones opinion is welcome.

Berzerker
07-09-2013, 12:49 AM
Well in my last jeep I only had rear lockers. I have F&R in my 2012, but mostly use my rear. That being said, Its nice to know its there. If I had to chose I would go with rear, but thats just my opinion.

Moochie
07-09-2013, 12:49 AM
So heres the question... For those of you with front and rear lockers do you prefer to lock the front or the rear where both aren't needed? I have heard this argued both ways:

Front has more weight on the tired = better traction

Rear you can push more than you can pull ect..

Everyones opinion is welcome.

I always lock the rear first. Mainly because it is hard to steer with the front locked.

JeepinLife
07-09-2013, 12:50 AM
I always lock the rear first. Mainly because it is hard to steer with the front locked.

Same here. Then just click in the front if needed

wayoflife
07-09-2013, 01:07 AM
If I could only have one locker, it would be the rear. When lockers are needed, I always run both as it'll help distribute the load and prevent breaks. When turning is needed, there really is nothing you can do other than turn off the front.

jkmohican
07-09-2013, 01:15 AM
Also, when you disconnect up front, the front tires usually stay on the ground, causing the rear tires to usually be the ones subject to leaving the ground. The only times I've ever lost a tire (leave the ground) was in the rear, and the BLD got me traction again so when I get My lockers, I'll be sure that the rear is done, and hopefully the front.

JeepinLife
07-09-2013, 01:52 AM
Anyone ever have issues with the electronic lockers always taking a while to engage or disco? Seems like only a few times they go right in and out. Usually takes some back and forth to show them locked.

wayoflife
07-09-2013, 02:02 AM
Anyone ever have issues with the electronic lockers always taking a while to engage or disco? Seems like only a few times they go right in and out. Usually takes some back and forth to show them locked.

Almost everyone I know who's running bigger than stock tires. The factory lockers are weak and prone to breaking. If you don't have lockers already, I would recommend a set of ARB's.

JeepinLife
07-09-2013, 02:04 AM
Almost everyone I know who's running bigger than stock tires. The factory lockers are weak and prone to breaking. If you don't have lockers already, I would recommend a set of ARB's.

Yea I have the factory ones. Guess its only a matter of time until they go.

JeepinLife
07-09-2013, 02:05 AM
I wonder what the bigger tires have to do with it.

wayoflife
07-09-2013, 02:09 AM
More mass takes more effort to turn them on the rocks. You put a lot more strain on the working components and then they start to fail.

B-rab
07-09-2013, 03:22 PM
I plan on doing arb air lockers on my rear jku. Everyone says this is the way to go. Sorry to be a thread thief but does anyone know how bad the install is? My guy at 4 wheel told me it would be around 1600 installed..

JeepinLife
07-09-2013, 05:36 PM
I plan on doing arb air lockers on my rear jku. Everyone says this is the way to go. Sorry to be a thread thief but does anyone know how bad the install is? My guy at 4 wheel told me it would be around 1600 installed..

How dare you steal this thread!!!! ;) Thats what these are for. Ask away!!

NFRs2000NYC
07-09-2013, 07:01 PM
I plan on doing arb air lockers on my rear jku. Everyone says this is the way to go. Sorry to be a thread thief but does anyone know how bad the install is? My guy at 4 wheel told me it would be around 1600 installed..

Does that include the locker itself? Seems a tad on the high side, but I guess if that includes running the air and electrical, it may be ok...still think it's a tad high.

1BAMFR
07-09-2013, 07:09 PM
Anyone ever have issues with the electronic lockers always taking a while to engage or disco? Seems like only a few times they go right in and out. Usually takes some back and forth to show them locked.

That's why I love my JKS Discos and my hammer!!!!!!!!

1BAMFR
07-09-2013, 07:10 PM
I plan on doing arb air lockers on my rear jku. Everyone says this is the way to go. Sorry to be a thread thief but does anyone know how bad the install is? My guy at 4 wheel told me it would be around 1600 installed..

I run E-Lockers...zero issues...I'm sure ARB are top shelf as well

NFRs2000NYC
07-09-2013, 07:27 PM
I run E-Lockers...zero issues...I'm sure ARB are top shelf as well

For most Jeepers, the ediscos work just fine. Most jeepers (and Im not saying most on this site, just most in general) only do mild offroading. For those like Eddie and Mel (people that crawl the most insane stuff imaginable) ARBs are the way to go. From what I understand about ARBs, you will break everything else the locker is connected to before you actually break an ARB locker.

TheStick
07-09-2013, 07:42 PM
Another "hope not to hijack" question but.... ;)

I'm running the factory rubi e lockers and wondering....I've done a couple of trails now where there are sections that the lockers help with lesser sections in between. What puts less strain on the system, locking and unlocking for the tougher sections or just leaving it locked through the whole trail?

B-rab
07-09-2013, 08:39 PM
Does that include the locker itself? Seems a tad on the high side, but I guess if that includes running the air and electrical, it may be ok...still think it's a tad high.

Yeah locker and all components besides gearing. I thought it was a bit high also.. How hard is the install? Is this something I could manage on my own?


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B-rab
07-09-2013, 08:42 PM
I run E-Lockers...zero issues...I'm sure ARB are top shelf as well

What type of trails do you tend to do and how often have you used them?


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NFRs2000NYC
07-09-2013, 08:43 PM
Yeah locker and all components besides gearing. I thought it was a bit high also.. How hard is the install? Is this something I could manage on my own?


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Based on my personal experience in building sports cars, in my opinion, if you are asking this question I wouldn't recommend doing it yourself. Diffs are sensitive things and I generally wouldn't want to mess with it. I am fairly mechanically inclined including tearing and installing motors and I don't mess with transmissions and differentials.

B-rab
07-09-2013, 08:56 PM
Based on my personal experience in building sports cars, in my opinion, if you are asking this question I wouldn't recommend doing it yourself. Diffs are sensitive things and I generally wouldn't want to mess with it. I am fairly mechanically inclined including tearing and installing motors and I don't mess with transmissions and differentials.

Yeah I feel the same way lol.. I did all my work on my mustangs but when it came to my 4.10 gears installed I went to the professionals.


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1yellowjk
07-09-2013, 09:47 PM
depends on the locker, lunch box style can normally be done in the home garage. Depending on what you have now will dictate what needs to be done, that being said I will NEVER attempt gears/diff work on my JK and I NEVER pay for installs. :)

Emptybrass
07-22-2013, 10:01 PM
I said the same thing a few years ago. Then it started with a gear change then a traction lock rebuild then a complete rear end setup. My advice is get the right tools do some reading or YouTube watching and get some help. My opinion is differentials are pretty basic but scary if the only thing you have ever done is a fluid change. You will be ok

Emptybrass
07-22-2013, 10:04 PM
Also a reputable 4x4 shop has always told me that a selectable locker belongs in the front and a LSD in the rear.

This is my first jeep so don't flame me. I am going to put a eaton Elocker in my rear

Devallee
07-23-2013, 06:23 AM
Side question here but has anybody seen a jeep with a permanently locked rear? Sort of like a prerunner setup? Just curious. I know it probably wouldn't be the best on a DD but what would be the positives/negatives to being locked on the trail at all times? Is there a time when you would actually want or need to be unlocked vs locked? Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but I'm just curious

Emptybrass
07-23-2013, 10:27 AM
I still new here and to the jeep club but unless you trail ride 95% of the time a spool would be a bad idea. Parking lots will be much harder to maneuver, tires chirping when taking stop sing turns. Will wear your tires much faster. Cops around here don't like squealing tire noises and will pull you over, even if you didn't do anything. Try explaining to them what a spool is:-/

Devallee
07-24-2013, 06:57 PM
I still new here and to the jeep club but unless you trail ride 95% of the time a spool would be a bad idea. Parking lots will be much harder to maneuver, tires chirping when taking stop sing turns. Will wear your tires much faster. Cops around here don't like squealing tire noises and will pull you over, even if you didn't do anything. Try explaining to them what a spool is:-/

What if it was just a trail rig? I was wondering if there would be a downside to being locked the whole time on the trail. I know it wouldn't be something you wanna drive on the street that would be annoying haha

Emptybrass
07-25-2013, 12:24 AM
I'm sure others with more experience can chime in but again with tight turns on the trail and wheels moving at different speeds it might be a problem. I could see how it may hurt you as we'll if you have 1 tire with a good grip and the other trying to find something spinning and losing the good grip. I would look at a Detroit or other type of tooth style locker.

Rob
07-25-2013, 02:59 PM
Also a reputable 4x4 shop has always told me that a selectable locker belongs in the front and a LSD in the rear.

This is my first jeep so don't flame me. I am going to put a eaton Elocker in my rear

I would prefer an auto-locker over a limited-slip in the rear if I were going to go non selectable. I really dont like the way auto lockers push when your on slick surfaces (like ice/snow) and limited slips are pretty useless on the rocks so Id much rather have selectable over either. I think your making a better choice. Not sure about the reliability of the Eaton as I have no experience with them.