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    Build planning questions.

    To start a build on the TJ X 6 speed manual I have, and on a small budget to start with, where should I start, after recovery and safety upgrades? I want to get my hands dirty on as many of these projects as I can.

    Here is my intent for the rig. Generally, I'm shooting for American made products that will stand up to harder punishment than I'll throw at them.
    33"-35" tires on bead lock wheels
    A strong and safe steering system
    A suspension system that can take a beating
    A safe lift to body and suspension
    Dynatrac Pro Rock 44s front and back, ARB air lockers, 4.88 gearing
    The ability to do MOAB reasonably well, even though the TJ wheel base is short, but also able to take on East Coast conditions of rain, mud, snow, river crossings, rock crawling, etc.
    Still maintaining daily driver status

    Is my best bet on suspension and steering first? Or axle upgrades? And of course, I realize that lifts mean changing out drive shafts. I'm thinking tires and wheels can come later.

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    I moved your thread to the TJ/YJ tech section.

    What rear axle do you have? Are you sure that you only want 35s?

    And Dynatrac does not make a PR44 rear. They offer their trail series for the TJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR.Ty View Post
    I moved your thread to the TJ/YJ tech section.

    What rear axle do you have? Are you sure that you only want 35s?

    And Dynatrac does not make a PR44 rear. They offer their trail series for the TJ.
    Anything larger than 35's would be excessive, I'm thinking.

    Thanks for the correction on the pr44.

    I believe I have a D35 rear. The X is completely stock, as near as I can tell.
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    This is why I come to the forum... Mr Ty has already helped by getting me to look at what is actually offered.

    living in Pennsylvania, to pass the state vehicle inspection standards, wheels can't be past the wheel flares of the vehicle. There would of course be the option of buying a wider flare to accommodate larger tires and spacers on the wheels to a certain degree. But, I don't want to make the stance too far out. I'm thinking (please correct me if I'm wrong) of keeping front and rear axles close to stock in width.

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    This might be my answer, though I'm leery of electric lockers.

    http://www.dynatrac.com/axle-assembl...ssemblies.html

    The nice part is the stock suspension and steering is compatible. That allows me to get the axles out of the way until I have the $$ for lift, suspension, steering and driveshafts.

    Thanks Mr. Ty!

    Edit: should I opt for this, or look at a PR60 rear, with a PR 44 front? The reason why I'm asking is because of the ARB air lockers on the Pro Rock, which as I understand it, is far more reliable than electrically controlled lockers.
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    The great thing about my build planning is that I still haven't shelled out any money yet.


    I'm leaning more towards a Trail Series 60 semi float rear.

    I'd love to go full bore with a 44/60 hybrid up front, but both axles together are going to cost $11-$12k.

    I need to get a 2nd job...

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    You might want to check out the offerings from east coast gear supply. They will usually cut you a pretty good deal if you call and talk to them. When I put the dana 44's under my cj they hooked me up with 2 sets of yukon 4.88's, 2 install kits, and 2 aussie lockers for under a grand.

    To run 35's a ford 8.8 rear and a waggy 44 front would more than suffice, and could be thrown together on a budget
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    Quote Originally Posted by holliewood61 View Post
    You might want to check out the offerings from east coast gear supply. They will usually cut you a pretty good deal if you call and talk to them. When I put the dana 44's under my cj they hooked me up with 2 sets of yukon 4.88's, 2 install kits, and 2 aussie lockers for under a grand.

    To run 35's a ford 8.8 rear and a waggy 44 front would more than suffice, and could be thrown together on a budget
    Thanks. I'll look into it, to see if it can take trail punishment and still work.

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    Ive set up several for tj's, the 8.8 is arguably stronger than a 44 if you use a c-clip eliminator. They would keep you close to factory width. The waggy 44 would give you lock out hubs up front and the 8.8 could give you disc brakes in the rear if you keep your eyes open for a disc brake unit. Im not sure what gear ratio you're eyeballing but some could be had with 4.10's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holliewood61 View Post
    Ive set up several for tj's, the 8.8 is arguably stronger than a 44 if you use a c-clip eliminator. They would keep you close to factory width. The waggy 44 would give you lock out hubs up front and the 8.8 could give you disc brakes in the rear if you keep your eyes open for a disc brake unit. Im not sure what gear ratio you're eyeballing but some could be had with 4.10's.
    Awesome! Thanks for the info.

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