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    Axle arrived today and I installed all the steering parts on it. It appears the drag link will work great. I went with hi steer Rancho knuckles and the Synergy tapered joint fit in fine. I also installed the JKS Disconnect lower links, the lower Mopar coil insulators, and tightened a few things up.

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    I did have to get new upper arm mount bolts, the JK ones are slightly bigger. I went with an M12 X 80.

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    2 issues I already see. 1 is that the track bar bracket is drilled out larger to a 9/16" bore and the OEM WJ bolt is a M12. I likely will weld and re-drill them or add some thick M12 washers and weld those on. I don't want to drill out the existing track bar bushing, it's been fine.

    UPDATE SINCE INSTALL: I used the second hole down from the top of the track bar bracket. I welded on 12mm washers on front and back and it worked fine. I purchased longer grade 10 bolts too.

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    The other issue was that the Clayton steering stabilizer mount bracket was hitting the tie rod. I couldn't figure out why, being that the Clayton kit was designed around a high steer system. The only thing I can think of, is that it was designed for OEM knuckles with a drag link flip kit opposed to aftermarket hi steer knuckles. On both the Rancho and Reid knuckles, the cast tie rod part raises the tie rod about an inch. So I'm thinking that may be the issue. Either way, it's been cut off and I'll deal with it towards the end of the install.

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    EDIT: ^ This is what happened. The photo from Clayton's website shows that they used an OEM JK knuckle with a flip insert which leaves the tie rod in the oem location. My tie rod is an inch higher with the Rancho knuckles and hits on the SS bracket. Likely I will just make a new one and weld it an inch higher.


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    UPDATE SINCE INSTALL: The Clayton lower control arm brackets were drilled for 9/16" bolts. Stock bolts are 14mm. Those 2 measurements are so close that I just re-used the stock bolts. Otherwise I would have had to drill out the bushing sleeve slightly. 9/16" is barely larger than 14mm.
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    Excited for you and admittedly jealous!

    I'm confident you'll get the issues sorted out.


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    When you get this mounted up you gotta get to Moab - I'd love to see you going up Escalator!

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    The more I research the ABS, the more it looks like I will have to go without ABS. If I were to swap both front and rear axles into the WJ, it would work fine, but by just doing front, it may not work. The JK and WJ ABS tone rings have a different tooth count.

    Either way, I disconnected both front sensors on the WJ and went for a drive. The ABS light was on, however the speedometer and cruise control still work. I may just stick with this, as it's not a daily driver.

    UPDATE SINCE INSTALL: ABS works! I spliced the black wires together and then the other two together. Tried some panic stops and it works. .
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    I've already anticipated cutting my track bar and then sleeving it and welding it because of the drag link flip. I'm running a Zone track bar that came with my 4 inch lift. But, I just found out that this track bar was made for a JK or a WJ and will fit both vehicles stock or up to 4 inches of lift. So I may not need to do anything it and for anyone doing this with a stock track bar, it may work just fine. I will say that the Clayton track bar bracket does relocate the lower mount about 2 inches toward the driver's side. The upper mounts on both the JK and the WJ appear to be in the same spot. I will post more on this once I'm sure.

    UPDATE SINCE INSTALL: Track bar needed to be shortened about 5 inches.
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    Good thing you have a JK in the driveway to compare to 👍

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    JK Front Dana 44 Rubicon axle into a WJ (99-04), ProRock 44 Swap

    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteCrystal View Post
    Good thing you have a JK in the driveway to compare to

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    Ha ha! I've been thinking the same...it was the real justification for the addition of the JKU.


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    2013 JKU Sport "Spider" with some EVO goodies and a chop here and there

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    So, the research I did originally showed that if both front and rear axles do not have the same amount of teeth on the ABS toner rings that the computer will sense a slippage and turn on the ABS light and/or force the ABS to engage. I was going to scrap the ABS altogether, however, an old forum post elsewhere from someone who talked to IRO (who has done the swap) said the teeth count DOESN'T matter. According to his post, IRO told him that as long as the speed of any of the toner wheels is constant and uninterrupted, the module won't know the difference. So I figured what the hell, I'll try it. It's worth a try. If it doesn't work, then it's not a big deal.

    UPDATE SINCE INSTALL: ABS works! I spliced the black wires together and then the other two together. Tried some panic stops and it works. .

    So today I wired up the ABS sensors to make sure they're ready. I cut off the WJ sensor ends from the WJ and then cut the JK sensor ends off the new sensors on the axle. I then spliced the WJ sensor ends on to the JK speed sensors. There are only two wires on each. The JK has black and white, and the WJ has black and brown. There was really no easy way to determine which was signal in or out, so I just guessed. I spliced the black with the black and spliced the brown with the white.

    UPDATE SINCE INSTALL: ABS works! I spliced the black wires together and then the other two together. Tried some panic stops and it works. .

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    It's still in the crate??? Lol! That would kill me, but I can be impatient at times.


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    DIY trail/tube door build http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?24449-My-DIY-Doors
    2013 JKU Sport "Spider" with some EVO goodies and a chop here and there

    DIY trail/tube door build http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?24449-My-DIY-Doors

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    Quote Originally Posted by USMC Wrangler View Post
    It's still in the crate??? Lol! That would kill me, but I can be impatient at times.


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    Yes, sadly.... if you see post 11 though, you'll see that Dynatrac cuts saddles out of the crate, so it sits there very well. I was going to move it to jack stands, but the crate seems more stable. Plus, it is really HEAVY. The FedEx guy said the total weight including crate is 450 pounds!

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