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    Preventing tailgate damage with a tire carrier

    Hi everyone,

    Last week I bought a new JKUR, and while I love it, I HATE the tires. So, I'll be putting 315 Duratracs on it, like what I had on my WJ that the JKUR is replacing. Obviously, that means I should do something about the spare to prevent ruining my tailgate.

    Most of the swingaway units are pretty slick with one latch operation and such, but, so far I cannot find a single one that would prevent the issue my dad ran in to with his TJ - when something hits the back tire (trees in his case), the fact that everything is coupled to the tailgate causes the gate to get bashed in by the linkage on the tire carrier.

    So, I come to you asking if there is a tire carrier out that meets the following criteria:

    1: One handed" operation - Basically works like factory. Push button, pull handle and everything opens.
    2: Reasonable isolation from tailgate damage. This could be from stops for the arm so the linkage isn't the only thing setting the closed position of the arm. I'd even be fine with adjustable stops to prevent "overclosing". Or something else I haven't though of. MAYBE this is a feature one every one made, but I just don't know!
    3: "No" rattle. If it thumps once in a while then fair enough, but I DD this, and won't be happy with a box of bolts in the back.
    4: Carries up to 37" tires. I don't like MT tires, so they won't be super heavy. Colorado is too fun with a Jeep with tires that actually can be used on snowy roads!
    5: Looks "good". Super subjective, but if I was looking for a big rectangular piece of steel for a bumper, I'd make it myself.

    The Metalcloak one seems to have a reasonable method of isolating the tailgate, but it is far from the one handed criteria. Looking at the way it works will let you know what I mean by isolating the tailgate though.

    As you can see in this picture of the PSC single action system, the double rod end linkage would push the tailgate in if the carrier/tire was hit. 2012-10-04_8489-S.jpg

    Any help is much appreciated!

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    Welcome to WAL. I assume you're running BFG MTs, they suck in the type of weather we just had. A lot of guys here run 35s on the factory carrier as long as you set the rubber tailgate bumpers tightly on the tire. If you're set on a new carrier though, check out EVOs new one.

    https://www.offroadevolution.com/pro...-2007-current/

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    Most bumper mounted carriers have some kind of bump stops between the carrier and the tailgate so I would think if you back into a tree with any kind of force you're going to damage your tailgate regardless of whether it's isolated from the carrier or not. JMO.


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    Factory works well.

    Or I'd look at the new EVO carrier that replaces factory one that WJCO linked, or the AEV one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WJCO View Post
    If you're set on a new carrier though, check out EVOs new one.

    https://www.offroadevolution.com/pro...-2007-current/
    I'd be a little hesitant about this carrier to be honest.
    I have no doubt that the metal itself is strong, and the hinges.
    But say you backed up into a tree, the majority of the load is going to be transferred directly into the tailgate.
    I had this happen on my Crawler Conceptz carrier, albeit it's a different design, it mangled my tailgate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDream View Post
    But say you backed up into a tree, the majority of the load is going to be transferred directly into the tailgate.
    You back into a tree hard enough to dent something, you will most likely do that with any carrier unless you jump up to the EVO carrier with corners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudmobeeler View Post
    You back into a tree hard enough to dent something, you will most likely do that with any carrier unless you jump up to the EVO carrier with corners.
    I see where you're coming from, but personally I think that something that is directly mounted to the tailgate is much more likely to cause damage. Compared to a bumper mounted carrier that connects to the tailgate.

    Most of the damage I received was because the mount for the wheel put a ton of force into the backplate which buckled my door in. If it was bumper mounted, that likely wouldn't have happened.
    Last edited by JKDream; 01-12-2017 at 07:14 AM.

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    Other than the EVO tire carrier that uses the skins to mount I can't thing of any "one handed" operation carriers that fit your requirements.

    If they are one handed they will link to the tail gate so that they open with it. So if you were to back into a tree hard enough it will cause damage. Don't get me wrong, mistakes happen, but unless you are being reckless I can't imagine backing into a tree hard enough to do that amount of damage to the tail gate through the steel bumper and tire carrier.

    If you haven't seen it, the new LoD Destroyer series bumper might fit what you are looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Testlab View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Last week I bought a new JKUR, and while I love it, I HATE the tires. So, I'll be putting 315 Duratracs on it, like what I had on my WJ that the JKUR is replacing. Obviously, that means I should do something about the spare to prevent ruining my tailgate.

    Most of the swingaway units are pretty slick with one latch operation and such, but, so far I cannot find a single one that would prevent the issue my dad ran in to with his TJ - when something hits the back tire (trees in his case), the fact that everything is coupled to the tailgate causes the gate to get bashed in by the linkage on the tire carrier.

    So, I come to you asking if there is a tire carrier out that meets the following criteria:

    1: One handed" operation - Basically works like factory. Push button, pull handle and everything opens.
    2: Reasonable isolation from tailgate damage. This could be from stops for the arm so the linkage isn't the only thing setting the closed position of the arm. I'd even be fine with adjustable stops to prevent "overclosing". Or something else I haven't though of. MAYBE this is a feature one every one made, but I just don't know!
    3: "No" rattle. If it thumps once in a while then fair enough, but I DD this, and won't be happy with a box of bolts in the back.
    4: Carries up to 37" tires. I don't like MT tires, so they won't be super heavy. Colorado is too fun with a Jeep with tires that actually can be used on snowy roads!
    5: Looks "good". Super subjective, but if I was looking for a big rectangular piece of steel for a bumper, I'd make it myself.

    The Metalcloak one seems to have a reasonable method of isolating the tailgate, but it is far from the one handed criteria. Looking at the way it works will let you know what I mean by isolating the tailgate though.

    As you can see in this picture of the PSC single action system, the double rod end linkage would push the tailgate in if the carrier/tire was hit. 2012-10-04_8489-S.jpg

    Any help is much appreciated!
    I think you're on a unicorn hunt. You can either have one handed operation or a carrier that doesn't connect to the tailgate.


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    Mount the tire in the cargo space of the Jeep. One handed operation of tailgate and if you back into something it'll probably hit your bumper before your tailgate.

    Other than that, I'm with JK_Dave

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