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    Can EVO Short Lowers Work with 'Stock' Suspension

    Howdy,

    I suspect the answer is, Yes. However on the chance it's No, thought I'd ask.

    Stitch is a '15 JKU Rubicon w/57K, running an EVO leveling lift. He's developed a case of steering pull toward the left. 0-50, basically neutral. Go past 50 MPH, it gets pretty healthy by 75MPH. Need a constant ~2lb pressure on the steering wheel to stay on track. Gets real old after a while. And, with a 4-5000 mile trip coming up, am working to resolve the problem.

    Tires are Goodrich T/A KO2s, rotated twice since this showed up. The problem really didn't seem to appear until after replacing tie rods, drag link, and steering damper ~3 months ago. Did my own alignment, then took it in to Belle Tire for alignment as well, no change. Figured, 'maybe' I'd not gotten toe-in right.

    About now, pushing 60K, I expecting ball joints will become an issue soon. They do not seem to be bad right now, no wobbling, nor did Belle Tire see anything wrong.

    There is no obvious damage to suspension, such as an impact suggesting a control arm might be bent. However Belle Tire's diagnostic print out did suggest a fair number of measurements in the red. Toe-in's basically a tire-wear consideration. As I understand it Camber and Caster are the two that will actually impact direction. Of those, Caster's the only one I can impact.

    Certainly interested in folk's inputs. I've read other 'steering pull' threads in the forum. They've not helped me resolve my problem.

    So, I'm considering a set of EVO's Enforcer Series Adjustable lower control arms (EVO-1064). I expect they should work just fine on my basically stock JKU.

    Thoughts appreciated.

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    Did they correct your toe in? Your driver side camber indicates a failing ball joint I believe. You can use the evo lower control arms to adjust the caster because they are adjustable.

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    Did you get a pressurised steering stabilizer? That will push you to the left.

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    I donít think camber is even adjustable on our jeeps and I also donít think you can adjust caster from side to side with a solid axle. But I could be wrong, this is just my understanding of a solid front axle


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    Quote Originally Posted by BaddestCross View Post
    Did you get a pressurised steering stabilizer? That will push you to the left.

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    If I recall correctly, it is. Good suggestion. Itís also a very easy thing to test tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKbrick View Post
    I donít think camber is even adjustable on our jeeps and I also donít think you can adjust caster from side to side with a solid axle. But I could be wrong, this is just my understanding of a solid front axle


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    Other than a failing ball joint as noted in another response, youíre correct. Stock axle camber is not adjustable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSJKU11 View Post
    Did they correct your toe in? Your driver side camber indicates a failing ball joint I believe. You can use the evo lower control arms to adjust the caster because they are adjustable.

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    The adjustability is what Iím after for that reason.

    First test will be stabilizer. Iím already leaning toward ball joints next weekend regardless. Itíd be interesting to see the readings afterward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtpedersen View Post
    The adjustability is what Iím after for that reason.

    First test will be stabilizer. Iím already leaning toward ball joints next weekend regardless. Itíd be interesting to see the readings afterward.
    You cannot adjust caster independently of each side on a solid axle. Terraflex's instructions say to make one arm longer by an 1/8" if I remember correctly to put "cross caster". This simply places the axle in a state of torsion only creating the potential of it breaking.

    As mentioned a pressurized stabilizer, like bilstein, fox, etc. will cause a pull to the left. Pull it off and go for a drive and see if it's still there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaddestCross View Post
    Did you get a pressurised steering stabilizer? That will push you to the left.
    Thanks for the suggestion. Hadn't thought the steering stabilizer would have such an effect. Removed it today. Sure enough, straight-track, no pull to the left, as it should be.

    Just need to shop for a different stabilizer now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jtpedersen View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion. Hadn't thought the steering stabilizer would have such an effect. Removed it today. Sure enough, straight-track, no pull to the left, as it should be.

    Just need to shop for a different stabilizer now.

    Glad that was the problem. I went with the Rancho RS5000 and it's been great. 👍

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