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    And thank you. I actually have a pretty close rig to what you started with. Currently on 37" Toyos. Probably going to stay at 37s for a while. I feel like I'm fairly well set up for them with the PR44 and the D44 (I have a Sahara so I did 35 spline shafts with the ARB and regear) I have actually waffled about the hi clearance and totally appreciate your real world knowledge about the brackets. Since I imagine you had the geo brackets before you switched to long arm, do you feel the LA brackets are worse as far as location and clearance? In the last year and a half, I had to replace the passenger side because I came off a rock and smacked it hard and bent pretty bad. I like to say it was because Stevie Wonder was spotting. With the bracket on the long arm, is it in a better spot since it's in front of the rear tire and not right behind the front?[/QUOTE]

    Yes, for sure it is worse than the stock bracket location with regards to clearance. I'm hanging up because rear mount is in front of the rear tire and the rear lower control arm mount is catching prior to the rear tire being able to climb. As always, bigger tires will solve the problem, but seriously in this case it will. The BFGs run small, and literally every time its been stopped I'm about an inch from it clearing the ledge that it hung on. Backing up and stacking a stone or getting a little tug to get it up and over is all that it takes. Those mounts have taken a absolute beating and other than a little pain damage, they are holding up well. You can see it well in that picture I attached earlier. Its mostly on the driver side that gets hung up, the passenger tends to slide better because of the gas tank skid plate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddays View Post
    It's a tradeoff with the mount on lower portion of the frame vs the high clearance versions which tucks them higher up on the side of the frame rails. Also, the CA mounts on the axle get mounted up higher on the axle tube so these mounts are moved out of the way. The issue that I had was that unless you do the EVO lever you still have the shock/coilover mounts hanging down like shovels on the axle. That's the biggest reason I didn't do the high clearance version on mine

    Same thing here, plus the extra work required to the axle re-welding the lower arm mount points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wjtstudios View Post
    Same thing here, plus the extra work required to the axle re-welding the lower arm mount points.
    If I lived out West and could take advantage of the trails there on a routine basis, I would have spend the extra $$ on the high clearance version. As it is, I'll keep dragging my butt over the obstacles as best as i can.

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    Maybe long arms are night and day difference, I don’t know. I’ve been on “short” arms with a 4.5” lift for quite a while now and the ride seems fine to me. Perhaps if I rode in someone’s long arm equipped Jeep, I’d be whipping out my credit card to drop the $2500 or whatever they cost now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wjtstudios View Post

    Yes, for sure it is worse than the stock bracket location with regards to clearance. I'm hanging up because rear mount is in front of the rear tire and the rear lower control arm mount is catching prior to the rear tire being able to climb.

    I can imagine they were worse than the stock location. Did you have the geometry correction (drop) brackets on your AEV lift before the long arm? The passenger side is the one I had to replace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiend View Post
    Maybe long arms are night and day difference, I don’t know. I’ve been on “short” arms with a 4.5” lift for quite a while now and the ride seems fine to me. Perhaps if I rode in someone’s long arm equipped Jeep, I’d be whipping out my credit card to drop the $2500 or whatever they cost now.


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    I biggest difference I've noticed is how smooth and controlled it runs on rough dirt roads with the LA kit on verses stock at 40-50 mph. Road manors are definitely improved, but it really floats running the dirt verses pounding your way over every pothole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiend View Post
    Maybe long arms are night and day difference, I don’t know. I’ve been on “short” arms with a 4.5” lift for quite a while now and the ride seems fine to me. Perhaps if I rode in someone’s long arm equipped Jeep, I’d be whipping out my credit card to drop the $2500 or whatever they cost now.


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    It's really surprising the difference they make but like most things it's subjective. I tend to drive long distances in the JK so it makes those trips easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinG View Post
    I can imagine they were worse than the stock location. Did you have the geometry correction (drop) brackets on your AEV lift before the long arm? The passenger side is the one I had to replace.
    No I just had the stock arms and brackets, I never did the drops. I do not have any issues with the front long arm brackets hanging up, just the rear. But the quality of the EVO brackets is levels above the AEV brackets and can take the hits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiend View Post
    Maybe long arms are night and day difference, I don’t know. I’ve been on “short” arms with a 4.5” lift for quite a while now and the ride seems fine to me. Perhaps if I rode in someone’s long arm equipped Jeep, I’d be whipping out my credit card to drop the $2500 or whatever they cost now.


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    I totally get that. In all of these threads, I see people like Ddays and wjtstudios that have them, love them and use them. I have seen a few other people that have short arm (insert mfr. here) and said "I wish I would have just gone long arm to start". I can't find the guy that said, "geez, I wish I would have stayed on short arms. $2500 and they hang up on anything bigger than a speed bump, plus the ride is so nice that I get sleepy driving it"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wjtstudios View Post
    No I just had the stock arms and brackets, I never did the drops. I do not have any issues with the front long arm brackets hanging up, just the rear. But the quality of the EVO brackets is levels above the AEV brackets and can take the hits.
    Awesome. Thanks! I probably would have been able to see that for myself as the delivery just got to my house. I'm probably going to tackle one end in a week or two. Have a Friday through Sunday off then. Did you guys exhaust flip, delete or use flex pipe?

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