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wayoflife said:
Kinda hard to homeschool your kid(s) when you're barely living paycheck to paycheck even with both parents having to work. Kinda hard to find any amount of money more than you've already paid in taxes to to do it too. And yeah, that was Cindy and I. We worked harder and longer to make it happen for Andrew because the schools in our neighborhood at the time sucked and it killed us. Any help we could have gotten, we would have been all to happy to take. But hey, maybe it's just me who doesn't understand.
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I get it and back when Andrew was in school $1,700 went a lot farther. But is $1,700 a lot of money nowadays?
 
OverlanderJK said:
I get it and back when Andrew was in school $1,700 went a lot farther. But is $1,700 a lot of money nowadays?
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As I said before, when you're barely squeaking by living paycheck to paycheck, $17 is a lot of money and I would argue, even nowadays.

And again, this is to say nothing about the fact that you already pay taxes to fund the schools that you don't want to send your kids to. I'm not exactly proud to say that there was a time in our lives that we really struggled and suffered but at that time, we would have been happy for any kind of help.
 
OverlanderJK said:
I get it and back when Andrew was in school $1,700 went a lot farther. But is $1,700 a lot of money nowadays?
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I believe.. after reading this, it's to incentivize more people to donate to schools that offer scholarships and increase the number of those scholarships available. There are criteria for the schools to meet and must be registered but in theory, it will allow more parents that meet the criteria to send their child to a better(?) school.

Those that donate receive every dollar up to $1700 back as a tax credit, 100% of the amount donated up to $1700.

Something we could have used as well when our child was going to school but we got her thru it.

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wayoflife said:
As I said before, when you're barely squeaking by living paycheck to paycheck, $17 is a lot of money and I would argue, even nowadays.

And again, this is to say nothing about the fact that you already pay taxes to fund the schools that you don't want to send your kids to. I'm not exactly proud to say that there was a time in our lives that we really struggled and suffered but at that time, we would have been happy for any kind of help.
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Agreed that any money is money but the minimum wage workers I feel generally aren't concerned with this issue, the high dollar earners aren't concerned as they make enough to send their kids to whatever school they want and the middle class, $1,700 just isn't moving the needle enough. Hell the middle class idiots have $1,700 car payments.

All that to say, I would take advantage of this being that it isn't cheap to homeschool kids.
 
OverlanderJK said:
Agreed that any money is money but the minimum wage workers I feel generally aren't concerned with this issue, the high dollar earners aren't concerned as they make enough to send their kids to whatever school they want and the middle class, $1,700 just isn't moving the needle enough. Hell the middle class idiots have $1,700 car payments.

All that to say, I would take advantage of this being that it isn't cheap to homeschool kids.
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Maybe. It's no secret that Cindy and I had Andrew young and at that time, we were both going to school, she was waiting tables and I was working retail. By the time Andrew was old enough to go to school, we were making a go of starting our own business and it was a desperate time. Being that we really didn't want to send him to public school, we did all that we could to make it happen or at least, for as long as we could and that means, we drove piece of shit old cars and sacrificed anything and everything of luxury. Maybe we were just an outlier but at the time, it sure seemed like there were more than enough of us out there that politicians from the state to federal level, all made a big to do about school choice being on their campaign platform. The fact that it never happened, even when the red team was in power, was just another reason why I lost so much faith in the system. That it finally happened now, in whatever form that might be, is somewhat of a miracle or at least, to me anyway.
 
OverlanderJK said:
Can't say I've ever heard of someone complaining about not being able to send their kids to a school they want. Is $1,700 a needle mover when it comes to private schools? Average cost of private school is $13,000 a year. Maybe I am missing the point of this but I guess I don't understand how it is a big deal. Most parents complain about the education system but make zero effort to make it better or send their kids to other schools or homeschool. I fail to see how $1,700 a year will change a parents mind on sending their kid to a private school that costs 6 times that amount. And only if their entire state opts in.
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In Dallas, my former work-mates are spending $45k/year for one child at a private school.
 
bobfriesenhahn said:
It would have been even better to enact a law which says that all public moneys allocated for education are to be divided equally across all eligible (i.e. in the district area) students and available to use for the school of their choice (public or private). This would benefit poor/disadvantaged students as well as ones from wealthy families.

The tax write-offs turned into vouchers could be added to the above.
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As with most things in life, the devil is in the details.

Vouchers don't necessarily mean that private school will be more affordable. Schools consider what parents are willing to pay when setting tuition and fees, so if a sufficient number of parents are willing to pay $10k a year to send their kids to school and the state offers a $5k voucher, instead of making tuition more affordable the school may very well decide to just raise tuition by the same amount. If you're willing to pay $10k, and the state is going to give you an extra $5k to pay tuition then the school can just raise tuition to $15k.

In my state, "education freedom" means that the state will give parents a voucher for schools, but the money for the voucher is taken from the school district the child would have gone to if they were in public school -- so the school has less to educate those still in the public school system.

The real kicker is the schools that parents can use their voucher for: horse riding lessons, dance lessons, cooking lessons, martial arts, etc.

I know a lot of people are not fans of even the concept of public schools, but this doesn't save taxpayer money it just takes that money and gives it to families that are more fortunate, and, really, do we really want to make it even more difficult for the children of lower income families to receive an education?
 
This admin has to bring the wood. These people need to suffer the consequences for their actions. From Bush thru Obama.
The last time the alphabet agencies suffered pushback was the Church Commission. Then they went underground & used cutouts - remember Iran-Contra?

They can't leave anything smoldering - it needs burnt down

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