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bruggymonster
03-19-2015, 09:28 PM
I'm trying to put together a list of things that I want to add on to my JKUR and I think I am going to get the lift wheels and tires first.. I am looking for a lift that I can occasionally hit some trails with but I also need it as a daily driver.. Any help is welcome! Also I think I want to go with AEV grey pintler wheels and some kind of NITTO tire, maybe trail grapplers? :crazyeyes:

thardy
03-19-2015, 09:50 PM
What size tires are you wanting to run?

MedixJK
03-19-2015, 09:54 PM
If i could go back in time and bring more money with me, the EVO Enforcer is what i would buy. Unfortunately i was broke and impatient. Lolol. That will be what i go to. Never heard anything but good about it. Unless your budget is wide open, then your options change greatly.

bruggymonster
03-19-2015, 11:14 PM
What size tires are you wanting to run?

I'm wanting to run 35"

jep77
03-19-2015, 11:18 PM
I went with a 2" budget boost and flat fenders with 35's. So far so good. I have the Toyo mt 2s on stock wheels and I love them. Didn't effect handling much but I'll end up switching gears when I can.

MR.Ty
03-19-2015, 11:32 PM
A budget boost is an inexpensive way of fitting the size tires you want. I have a 2.5" one with 35s. Make sure you get a kit with shock extensions and bump stops.

As for the rims, please note that the Pintlers have been known to crack. ATX has a similar looking design that I suggest you take a look at before settling on the Pintlers.

thardy
03-20-2015, 12:07 AM
I'm wanting to run 35"

Running 35s, I'd go with either the Evo leveling kit, Rancho 2.5 sport, or if $ isn't really an issue, the 3" enforcer.

bruggymonster
03-20-2015, 02:37 AM
Thanks guys!

relayer4u
03-20-2015, 02:55 AM
I would skip the AEV wheels and look for something else. I have MB wheels 11 from Discount tire, but I was also considering Fuel Formulas and Mamba M-14s.

Reason I would skip the AEV wheels is that they have too much back space and have a history of visible cracks.

:beer:

nightfirem10
03-20-2015, 03:07 AM
I just am in the process of building up my unlimited hard rock like this and it turned out awesome and looks wicked!
BDS 3" lift
Fox 2.0 shocks
35" pro comp extreme a/t tires
LRG Hurricane rims in 17"
And it handles just as good as it did in stock configuration,the a/t do tend to follow cracks in the pavement a bit though.
Hope that helps!

Sharkey
03-20-2015, 03:50 AM
35's on pintlers will rub (at least they do with an EVO Enforcer lift) enough that you need spacers. The rear sway bar end links hit the tire.

bruggymonster
03-20-2015, 01:29 PM
If i could go back in time and bring more money with me, the EVO Enforcer is what i would buy. Unfortunately i was broke and impatient. Lolol. That will be what i go to. Never heard anything but good about it. Unless your budget is wide open, then your options change greatly.

Where would you suggest buying from? I live in Iowa and there aren't many off road parts stores. I mean we have Advanced Auto Parts and Napa, but those aren't really centered on these things. I'm assuming I should get it online? I'm going to have to get someone to install it, I know a good mechanics shop that will do it.. does anyone know what price range the EVO Enforcer and the labor for install would cost so I don't get ripped off?

MedixJK
03-20-2015, 01:35 PM
Where would you suggest buying from? I live in Iowa and there aren't many off road parts stores. I mean we have Advanced Auto Parts and Napa, but those aren't really centered on these things. I'm assuming I should get it online? I'm going to have to get someone to install it, I know a good mechanics shop that will do it.. does anyone know what price range the EVO Enforcer and the labor for install would cost so I don't get ripped off?

http://www.northridge4x4.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=enforcer

Northridge 4x4 is a Wayalife sponsor and offers us a member discount on some items so i try and buy from them when i can. Not sure about labor as i do these things myself and i am nowhere close to being a mechanic. If you can run a ratchet and a wrench, then you probably can too.

MTG
03-20-2015, 01:37 PM
Where would you suggest buying from? I live in Iowa and there aren't many off road parts stores. I mean we have Advanced Auto Parts and Napa, but those aren't really centered on these things. I'm assuming I should get it online? I'm going to have to get someone to install it, I know a good mechanics shop that will do it.. does anyone know what price range the EVO Enforcer and the labor for install would cost so I don't get ripped off?

I would strongly suggest you do it yourself. It is not a difficult install if you take your time and follow instructions, even if you've never done anything like it before. I'm sure if you post up and offer up some steak/pizza and beverages there will be people close enough to you to lend a hand. You'll have a much better understanding of your jeep when you are done, have a nice sense of accomplishment and haves saved yourself a few hundred bucks in the process. :thumb:

OverlanderJK
03-20-2015, 01:47 PM
I would strongly suggest you do it yourself. It is not a difficult install

You told me the same thing. :crazyeyes:

MTG
03-20-2015, 03:21 PM
You told me the same thing. :crazyeyes:

And just look at you now! You're welcome.

:cheesy:

ChrisMR589
03-20-2015, 03:28 PM
I would strongly suggest you do it yourself. It is not a difficult install if you take your time and follow instructions, even if you've never done anything like it before. I'm sure if you post up and offer up some steak/pizza and beverages there will be people close enough to you to lend a hand. You'll have a much better understanding of your jeep when you are done, have a nice sense of accomplishment and haves saved yourself a few hundred bucks in the process. :thumb:

This^
I was brand new to all of this in October when I put my 2.5" on myself. You'll feel great about yourself and the accomplishment once completed. Now I've got a decent tool chest as well.

bruggymonster
03-20-2015, 03:54 PM
I would strongly suggest you do it yourself. It is not a difficult install if you take your time and follow instructions, even if you've never done anything like it before. I'm sure if you post up and offer up some steak/pizza and beverages there will be people close enough to you to lend a hand. You'll have a much better understanding of your jeep when you are done, have a nice sense of accomplishment and haves saved yourself a few hundred bucks in the process. :thumb:

Honestly this gave me the motivation and when I do take the plunge, I'll do it by myself! Of course I'll be on here asking for help though!

MedixJK
03-20-2015, 04:19 PM
Honestly this gave me the motivation and when I do take the plunge, I'll do it by myself! Of course I'll be on here asking for help though!

You wont regret it. Unless of course you screw it up... joking. Like they said, the knowledge youll gain about your jeep and how it works cant be gained any other way.

jeeeep
03-20-2015, 04:19 PM
Honestly this gave me the motivation and when I do take the plunge, I'll do it by myself! Of course I'll be on here asking for help though!

Just be sure to have a set of metric wrenches and sockets, a good breaker bar, jack stands and an extra jack or bottle jack to help with setting caster.

I measured my caster before taking anything apart to help me understand that I was measuring it correctly and to get a reading before since I was doing this in my driveway and had to account for the slope.

Here are a few good reads that may help you prepare. they helped me out and made the job so much easier:

Torque settings guide - very few instructions include torque settings:
http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-ups/jeep-jk-wrangler-torque-settings

Understanding caster:
http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-tech/jeep-jk-caster-what-is-it-how-do-i-measure-it-and-how-does-it-affect-my-jeep

front end alignment - chances are you won't need this but the drawing is helpful:
http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-ups/basic-do-it-yourself-jeep-jk-wrangler-front-end-alignment

This is for a different suspension but the install procedures are basically the same for all suspensions:
http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-ups/full-traction-suspension-jeep-jk-wrangler-3-ultimate-lift-installation-write-up

cheers! :beer:

bruggymonster
03-21-2015, 02:12 AM
So I looked on North Ridge and the evo enforcer is almost $1300 less than it is on the actual evo website. Is this normal? Or am I missing something?

olram30
03-21-2015, 02:15 AM
So I looked on North Ridge and the evo enforcer is almost $1300 less than it is on the actual evo website. Is this normal? Or am I missing something?

Probably looking at a different kit.

towerdogg
03-21-2015, 02:27 AM
I'm running 35in pro comp mts on 17in Moto metals and have had good luck so far my JKU came with factory 3in lift already and I haven't hand any flex out problems. I know rough country makes a 3in that's about $500

Spudcannons
03-21-2015, 02:43 AM
The Evo kits are sick! After months of research I finally ordered my EVO long arm the top brands I found were EVO Clayton off road Rebel offroad. I was told by some people that Rubicon express was to be stayed away from. Rancho was cheap ok parts. Metal cloak was good but overpriced. BDS is good quality too. AEV makes good kits for overland use but I do pretty much rock crawling so no go with the clearance. It also really is affected by your budget too.

bruggymonster
03-21-2015, 02:43 AM
Probably looking at a different kit.

I figured it out, on the evo website, it comes with the king shocks and the drag link flip kit.. newbie question again.. I know the shocks are just better than stock but not necessary right? and I don't know what the drag link flip kit is for? :doh:

olram30
03-21-2015, 02:48 AM
I figured it out, on the evo website, it comes with the king shocks and the drag link flip kit.. newbie question again.. I know the shocks are just better than stock but not necessary right? and I don't know what the drag link flip kit is for? :doh:

You can run Rancho or bilstein shocks to fit your budget. The drag link flip kit centers your axle, corrects your roll center, corrects steering geometry, and puts your steering stabilizer in a better position. Worth the money imo because you re-use your factory track bar and no need to purchase an adjustable one.

bruggymonster
03-21-2015, 02:59 AM
You can run Rancho or bilstein shocks to fit your budget. The drag link flip kit centers your axle, corrects your roll center, corrects steering geometry, and puts your steering stabilizer in a better position. Worth the money imo because you re-use your factory track bar and no need to purchase an adjustable one.

Awesome! This has been a ton of help! Definitely one of the best ideas I've had to get on this forum!

bruggymonster
03-27-2015, 03:47 AM
You can run Rancho or bilstein shocks to fit your budget. The drag link flip kit centers your axle, corrects your roll center, corrects steering geometry, and puts your steering stabilizer in a better position. Worth the money imo because you re-use your factory track bar and no need to purchase an adjustable one.

Another quick question.. On the North Ridge website, it shows three different options for shocks, Bilstien 5100, Evo Spec 2.0, and Evo Spec 2.5 w/ res.. Probably a noob question but what are the differences between the shocks? I'm assuming ride quality? :hmm:
Oh and what is the "w/ res"?

olram30
03-27-2015, 03:52 AM
Another quick question.. On the North Ridge website, it shows three different options for shocks, Bilstien 5100, Evo Spec 2.0, and Evo Spec 2.5 w/ res.. Probably a noob question but what are the differences between the shocks? I'm assuming ride quality? :hmm:
Oh and what is the "w/ res"?

good, better, best.
the reservoir helps going on washboard roads. and i think those have an adjuster knob. i'm not sure on that.

10frank9
03-27-2015, 03:59 AM
[QUOTE=bruggymonster;481479
Oh and what is the "w/ res"?[/QUOTE]

Means it has a reservoir attached to the shock.

bruggymonster
03-27-2015, 04:06 AM
good, better, best.
the reservoir helps going on washboard roads. and i think those have an adjuster knob. i'm not sure on that.


Means it has a reservoir attached to the shock.

Thanks guys!

jeeeep
03-27-2015, 04:13 AM
good, better, best.
the reservoir helps going on washboard roads. and i think those have an adjuster knob. i'm not sure on that.

also $, $$, $$$


bilsteins are a great DD

the 2.5's come with or without the compression adjustment knobs, the res (reservoir) which keeps the oil in them form overheating up too soon when running fast on dirt roads (where they'll be in constant dampening motion). if you go this route be sure to get the compression knobs so you can soften them up for DD.

This should help explain the Kings

http://www.kingshocks.com/products/oem/jeep-oem/

bruggymonster
04-07-2015, 02:54 PM
So with the 3" EVO Enforcer, 2.5 w/ res King shocks, and drag link flips, is there anything else I need to get/ change? (drive shaft, etc.)

olram30
04-07-2015, 03:01 PM
So with the 3" EVO Enforcer, 2.5 w/ res King shocks, and drag link flips, is there anything else I need to get/ change? (drive shaft, etc.)

Front ds yes, rear is fine, but move your evap skid. You'll shred up your boot. Check your front shocks at full droop to see how close the body is to the frame. *May need relo brackets. *Might be able to run evo rockstsrs. Other than that, sounds good

bruggymonster
04-07-2015, 03:06 PM
Front ds yes, rear is fine, but move your evap skid. You'll shred up your boot. Check your front shocks at full droop to see how close the body is to the frame. *May need relo brackets. *Might be able to run evo rockstsrs. Other than that, sounds good

Newbie question... Could you dumb that down a little, what's a boot? and how do you relocate the brackets? and what do the evo rockstars do?

olram30
04-07-2015, 03:09 PM
Newbie question... Could you dumb that down a little, what's a boot? and how do you relocate the brackets? and what do the evo rockstars do?

Yeah, pictures help me too.
Tore mine up first day. Relocated my skid over a bit.

olram30
04-07-2015, 03:23 PM
And the front shocks relocated brackets are cheap and easy to install. Evo started selling them. This just depends on shock length and body size of shock. I don't know how big kings are. But at full droop, it's close to the frame. May or May not be needed. I don't have the evo ones,or king shocks, but here's a picture. Notice the shock by the frame, and this is with brackets that move them out.