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wayoflife
05-03-2016, 08:27 PM
Greg Migliore of Autoblog posted up the following article along with spy shots of the all new 2018 Jeep JL Wrangler. Check it out.


2018 Jeep Wrangler spied looking more aerodynamic
We're getting an early look at one of the most anticipated vehicles from Jeep: the next-generation Wrangler.

We expect it to arrive for the 2018 model year and be aluminum-intensive for purposes of weight savings, which will improve fuel economy. The platform is expected to remain a traditional body-on-frame setup, and manufacturing will remain at its longtime Toledo, OH, factory. The design appears true to the Wrangler's heritage, though the windshield is raked back more to make it less brick-like when cutting through the air. From some angles, the front end appears longer if you squint properly, and the front fenders seem wider and squatter than the current model's. There's probably more in store for the new Jeep, but this prototype is under such heavy cladding it's impossible to tell what. Kudos to the folks who make those vinyl coverings.

Look for the powertrain to again include a Pentastar V6, this time paired to an eight-speed automatic transmission again for fuel economy, but also to improve the powertrain's flexibility. A V6 turbo diesel and a mild-hybrid variant are also expected. Even with all these departures from the long-running Wrangler playbook, the off-road capability will remain the vehicle's calling card.

The current Wrangler will also be built concurrently with this next-gen model for a time in Toledo, Automotive News reports, giving enthusiasts and traditionalists the best of both worlds. Jeep will also add a pickup based on the Wrangler's underpinnings to its portfolio in a move to capitalize on the resurgence of smaller trucks.

The Wrangler is both the halo and centerpiece of the remade Jeep lineup, which quickly is becoming one of Fiat Chrysler's pillars for sales and prestige around the world. Jeep hopes to sell 2 million vehicles globally by 2018.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/05/03/2018-jeep-wrangler-spy-photos/#slide-3882799


So, what do ya'll think? :cool:

Eugene the Jeep
05-04-2016, 10:40 AM
I found this on Google news feed today

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/05/03/2018-jeep-wrangler-spy-photos/#slide-3882788

2nd.gunman
05-04-2016, 11:14 AM
That looks like it's got the giant euro/Aus front bumper on it. Interesting though

Linebacker
05-04-2016, 12:11 PM
The windshield appears to be a little more laid back, which I like. Besides a little extra fuel economy, maybe not so many w/s replacements and snow packing under the wipers in heavy storms. Smaller Pentastar? Probably won't have to sell the 2012 to get the latest and greatest.

MTG
05-04-2016, 12:27 PM
Door handles look asymmetrical. Sharkey will not like that. ;)

Tekel
05-04-2016, 12:38 PM
Forum member on Expeditionportal also seems to of came across one in a parking lot in Colorado.


Most interesting photo he got was he snuck a shot of the undercarriage
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/g4CD1NdoUttQaO44RLcnptOWWleSLdE5Z3-9MhEo-XXQ0g6DUmALaTSwjvH6BcXLSCAv8qpqLA6T9BZcoSX-r4o7rMKeyIL5la6XCEFTPSRqYqJZZflwCtYk-__kTB5X271dBMHeho3S3Wd8hrWBy9g1N87jPd5zOgCaeUT6a-IcC4KnKr6lSsjZ62FVyIZwt2qiuPteiqPtuOrVwLVX--9sBqAPJkSiRzVd8xMcpxfKsXfKYWln51a0J5f2Rk8DGXGooofM RMeluO9uZUilmup4rgJ4UidXskzT-S6j1rJHdS-MHhe9E1yOmrz5uafKwvc5r4blkHiMaM-24K00ed9q9U1TkTA35o0l21CxjiylBOGGJQeqSA1QstyB4UD3l moSDPoma_7I-qy-tdkAnZq-gVKxkn0x2PEahg9c5eSC81nRehsSq5CkeKQCI21PQXhvqJt8Bc y3aTOmGEb4Rtxqjhj0fzXbYxNYZViXHCoBeQfVtTlV0D5OIbbg ocGoQPYah17ZfG-lD-DNsQwEEb5MW1q9uCR4nz14oodlt1F_jjckQkjf5qwI4mq0CK22 JbgE=w876-h657-no

TrainWreck618
05-04-2016, 12:49 PM
Very cool! I know you can't see much, but it looks like the overall feel is the same. I'm really looking forward to what will be coming out.

WJCO
05-04-2016, 12:50 PM
Forum member on Expeditionportal also seems to of came across one in a parking lot in Colorado.

Just a heads up, links to other forums not allowed here. FYI.

OverlanderJK
05-04-2016, 12:56 PM
Forum member on Expeditionportal also seems to of came across one in a parking lot in Colorado.


Most interesting photo he got was he snuck a shot of the undercarriage
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/g4CD1NdoUttQaO44RLcnptOWWleSLdE5Z3-9MhEo-XXQ0g6DUmALaTSwjvH6BcXLSCAv8qpqLA6T9BZcoSX-r4o7rMKeyIL5la6XCEFTPSRqYqJZZflwCtYk-__kTB5X271dBMHeho3S3Wd8hrWBy9g1N87jPd5zOgCaeUT6a-IcC4KnKr6lSsjZ62FVyIZwt2qiuPteiqPtuOrVwLVX--9sBqAPJkSiRzVd8xMcpxfKsXfKYWln51a0J5f2Rk8DGXGooofM RMeluO9uZUilmup4rgJ4UidXskzT-S6j1rJHdS-MHhe9E1yOmrz5uafKwvc5r4blkHiMaM-24K00ed9q9U1TkTA35o0l21CxjiylBOGGJQeqSA1QstyB4UD3l moSDPoma_7I-qy-tdkAnZq-gVKxkn0x2PEahg9c5eSC81nRehsSq5CkeKQCI21PQXhvqJt8Bc y3aTOmGEb4Rtxqjhj0fzXbYxNYZViXHCoBeQfVtTlV0D5OIbbg ocGoQPYah17ZfG-lD-DNsQwEEb5MW1q9uCR4nz14oodlt1F_jjckQkjf5qwI4mq0CK22 JbgE=w876-h657-no

Very tactless jackass. If you have something to add, add it, don't just link people to go to another forum.

GLASSCANNON
05-04-2016, 01:14 PM
Y'all may already have seen these, but in case you have not...

http://www.autonews.com/article/20160503/OEM04/160509966/next-generation-jeep-wrangler-breaks-cover

Kyle7R
05-04-2016, 01:18 PM
So glad you joined just to post a link to an article.

In the wrong sub-forum at that, and that has already been posted elsewhere.

Edit for real participants - this was re-located from asscannon's "new thread" that was posted in the JK sub forum.

WJCO
05-04-2016, 01:22 PM
Welcome back from 2013! :thumb:

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GLASSCANNON
05-04-2016, 01:24 PM
So if this is up elsewhere, should I delete this one?

Yes Kyle7R, I joined in July 2013 specifically to post this article today. Thanks for the sarcasm, right back at you.

wayoflife
05-04-2016, 02:34 PM
Pouring over the photos and zooming in on them, I think it's pretty clear that the new Wrangler (assuming these are actual shots of the final production vehicle) will essentially just be a refreshed JL body, motor and transmission on an old JK frame and suspension system. The grill looks to be more at an angle but it's hard to tell for sure with the camouflage but it's pretty clear to see the windshield is more swept back.
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So far as I can tell, the Duratracs they're running on this test rig are also bigger than the 225's that comes on a JK Rubicon today. If I could guess, these are most likely 285 or maybe even 305's. If this is true, that'll mean that the fender wells will be bigger from the factory and that means it'll be easier to get up on a 37 or bigger.
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Looking at this side shot, I think it's pretty clear that we are definitely looking at a JK frame with what looks like a very low hanging exhaust cross over (based on the front under pic posted) and maybe a small resonator or additional cat further back. Either way, if this is true, what it will mean is that current JK suspension products will either bolt right up to the JL or it'll be super easy for manufacturers to come out with new products that will and quickly.
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Kalums
05-04-2016, 02:40 PM
Absolutely interested, as long as they do actually offer the eco diesel out of the G. Cherokee

cozdude
05-04-2016, 02:52 PM
I'm even more intrigued now than I was before! Can't wait to see what it looks like. If it has the same frame as the jk then I would be really interested cause then I can just swap stuff like my coilovers and pr44 over

JAGS
05-04-2016, 02:59 PM
Honestly can't wait for the true unveiling. So much speculation has been made, both good and bad.

My worry is we won't really see anything that new and that FCA has pussed out on a legit design refresh. I've yet to see/hear the "it" factor in a way like JKU had.

wayoflife
05-04-2016, 03:41 PM
Honestly can't wait for the true unveiling. So much speculation has been made, both good and bad.

My worry is we won't really see anything that new and that FCA has pussed out on a legit design refresh. I've yet to see/hear the "it" factor in a way like JKU had.

Well, by the look of things, the JL will be a legit "refresh" but NOT much of a legit "re-design". I think this will be more of a lateral move kind of like the YJ was from the CJ.

Thegreenmachine12
05-04-2016, 03:41 PM
Hmmm... Can't get a good look at the interior but it looks like the same dashboard at the newer JK's too. Maybe theyre just re using some JK parts on the test mule?

JAGS
05-04-2016, 03:57 PM
Well, by the look of things, the JL will be a legit "refresh" but NOT much of a legit "re-design". I think this will be more of a lateral move kind of like the YJ was from the CJ.

Ha ha. I like that, a legit "refresh." [emoji106] I'll still be in the market for whatever it is. So I'm looking forward to it.

Not sure how valid, but I was told a while back that the comfort features of the interior and the new transmission were going to be nice upgrades. One of those "my brother works for Jeep design in Michigan" type deals. Shared a few details with me. We'll see.

MTG
05-04-2016, 04:56 PM
Ha ha. I like that, a legit "refresh." [emoji106] I'll still be in the market for whatever it is. So I'm looking forward to it.

Not sure how valid, but I was told a while back that the comfort features of the interior and the new transmission were going to be nice upgrades. One of those "my brother works for Jeep design in Michigan" type deals. Shared a few details with me. We'll see.

You gonna buy Amy a jeep?

Tekel
05-04-2016, 05:15 PM
Very tactless jackass. If you have something to add, add it, don't just link people to go to another forum.

You're right, giving credit is tactless. I should of just stole it and claimed it as my own like the rest of the internet.

(edit, but my bad on posting the actual link)

hinrichs
05-04-2016, 05:17 PM
Looks interesting, its a shame it isnt coming out this year tho, since we are looking to get rid of a Grand Cherokee for my mom since she hates the shifter design that they went with.

OverlanderJK
05-04-2016, 05:17 PM
I hope they go back squire headlights.

JAGS
05-04-2016, 05:40 PM
You gonna buy Amy a jeep?

[emoji6] It'll be a surprise. If she doesn't want it, I'll have to keep it. [emoji41]

JAGS
05-04-2016, 05:54 PM
Maybe we are looking at spy shots the jeep truck? I'm bored and thought I'd throw out a conspiracy theory. Expanded wheelbase? :thinking:

lidless07X
05-04-2016, 09:22 PM
I hope they go back squire headlights.

What's a squire headlight ?

Christarp
05-06-2016, 02:04 AM
What's a squire headlight ?

A child that runs in front of you with a lamp

stormtroopedjk
05-06-2016, 04:59 AM
Maybe we are looking at spy shots the jeep truck? I'm bored and thought I'd throw out a conspiracy theory. Expanded wheelbase? :thinking:

I thought the same thing when I first saw these spy photos. Maybe it could be the truck? I mean why else camo the rear windows if everyone can tell it's an unlimited? Either way I'm liking the new look from what can be seen

wayoflife
05-19-2016, 07:22 PM
Yesterday, I posted up a thread highlighting something I read and saw on an Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2016/05/18/2018-jeep-wrangler-unlimited-spy-photos-best-look-yet/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000016#slide-3894830) post regarding radius arms but totally forgot to post up some of the spy shots that they included. Not that it shows a whole lot but, here's what they look like.

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Source link:
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/05/18/2018-jeep-wrangler-unlimited-spy-photos-best-look-yet/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000016#slide-3894830

wayoflife
05-19-2016, 07:23 PM
Here are a few more...

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WJCO
05-19-2016, 07:25 PM
I like the size of the mirrors.

swampdog
05-19-2016, 07:43 PM
The soft top covers too much for my liking.

notnalc68
05-19-2016, 07:45 PM
The soft top covers too much for my liking.

Is Bestop going to make those? [emoji13]

NevadaZielmeister
05-19-2016, 07:45 PM
The soft top covers too much for my liking.

:clap2::cheesy::thumb:

WJCO
05-19-2016, 07:48 PM
The soft top covers too much for my liking.


Is Bestop going to make those? [emoji13]


:clap2::cheesy::thumb:

It's a UV Protectant for your paint, preserves the value of the vehicle. See your local finance dept about it.

cozdude
05-19-2016, 07:54 PM
Something about this makes me think we are looking at a truck and not really the full bodied JL

rinkishjk
05-19-2016, 07:58 PM
They really did cover it up well.

wayoflife
05-31-2016, 01:53 PM
AllPar had posted up a new spyshot they were able to get of the all new Jeep JL Wrangler and as you can see in the photo, the tilted grille and longer hood (presumably for the eight-speed automatic and north-south straight-four engine) and thicker front bumper can be seen.

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Nothing else seems to be changed which either means this really is just a mule or just more proof that the JL will just be a lateral move from the JK.

http://www.allpar.com/news/2016/05/best-2018-jeep-wrangler-spy-shot-31887

Mike_JK_Houston_711
05-31-2016, 02:27 PM
Not sure how I feel about that slanted grill yet. I guess I'll have to see it when it's unveiled to be sure.

piginajeep
05-31-2016, 02:28 PM
My guess is the drivetrain is the JL and they are using the jk body for testing purposes.

cozdude
05-31-2016, 02:38 PM
My guess is the drivetrain is the JL and they are using the jk body for testing purposes.

This^^^^^ I'm sure there will be a few other changes to the body to make it worth people moving from the jk to the JL

wayoflife
05-31-2016, 02:41 PM
My guess is the drivetrain is the JL and they are using the jk body for testing purposes.

You might be right but I'd have to agree with AllPar when they state that this looks like the same mule that we saw before only with a lot of camo on it. The finished and factory looking longer hood would have been taken a lot of work to make just for testing purposes and sloped grill under the face camo looks like a production piece too.

wayoflife
05-31-2016, 02:41 PM
This^^^^^ I'm sure there will be a few other changes to the body to make it worth people moving from the jk to the JL

I sure hope so.

Ddays
05-31-2016, 02:54 PM
This mule still has the folding windshield. Thought that was going away?
If this is the finished deal I'm a little disappointed. I always measure the design of a new
vehicle based on how bad it makes me want it. This is certainly ok and there is nothing
wrong with it, but it's nowhere near enough to make me want to go out & buy one. Hopefully this
is a drive train mule & there is more to come...

wayoflife
05-31-2016, 02:57 PM
This mule still has the folding windshield. Thought that was going away?
If this is the finished deal I'm a little disappointed. I always measure the design of a new
vehicle based on how bad it makes me want it. This is certainly ok and there is nothing
wrong with it, but it's nowhere near enough to make me want to go out & buy one. Hopefully this
is a drive train mule & there is more to come...

Good eye on the windshield. Like you, I'm hopeful that what we're looking at really is just a drivetrain mule.

ScoobyCarolanNC
05-31-2016, 03:51 PM
This mule still has the folding windshield. Thought that was going away?
If this is the finished deal I'm a little disappointed. I always measure the design of a new
vehicle based on how bad it makes me want it. This is certainly ok and there is nothing
wrong with it, but it's nowhere near enough to make me want to go out & buy one. Hopefully this
is a drive train mule & there is more to come...

Damn, I thought I caught it first. Maybe the JL is less of a "from scratch" recipe than we've been expecting? I mean if Maserati is using the dashboard gear from Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep platforms you've got to wonder.

C_short15
05-31-2016, 04:05 PM
Why duratracs instead of BFGS? Weird to see.

wayoflife
05-31-2016, 04:09 PM
Why duratracs instead of BFGS? Weird to see.

Actually, it was weird to see BFGs on the JK being that Jeep had been using Goodyear tires on their Wranglers first and for a very long time.

C_short15
05-31-2016, 04:09 PM
Actually, it was weird to see BFGs on the JK being that Jeep had been using Goodyear tires on their Wranglers first and for a very long time.

Good point. Didn't think about that

Kalums
05-31-2016, 04:10 PM
What he said..... 👍

JamesWyatt
05-31-2016, 04:13 PM
I think the grill and windshield are the current JK ones. They only look more angled because of the lens distortion in the photo. Look at the way the front tire is distorted in a similar way.

JamesWyatt
05-31-2016, 11:18 PM
I'm still holding out hope for what a dealer who saw the JL reveal at the FCA event last year said, which was the grille was smaller, more vertical, angled back only across the top, and the headlights pushed into the end vertical slats like the CJs. They said the windshield was more vertical, not more slanted, and it would fold down more easily. They said the hood was more angular, as it has to become more narrow to meet the smaller grille in front.

I can't remember the link/source for this, but I do remember reading it reported by a writer who spoke to a dealer who saw it. At the time right after the reveal I didn't see anyone reporting an eye witness say it had a more slanted grill or windshield - I've only read that more recently. That doesn't mean it wasn't reported initially, only that's how I remember it.

It may not happen and may be wishful thinking, but dear lord I would love a smaller, more vertical grill and a more vertical, more-easily folded windshield. I think they can achieve the CEO-promised 30 MPG without resorting to suppository styling just by adding the diesel and turbo 4 options combined with the 8-speed auto.

Sharkey
05-31-2016, 11:30 PM
A folding windshield is probably pretty high up on the chopping block. IMHO, they are pointless except to make it easier to put in some cages.


...and why would they do something that makes gas mileage worse? (A more vertical windshield)

JamesWyatt
06-01-2016, 03:56 AM
A folding windshield is probably pretty high up on the chopping block. IMHO, they are pointless except to make it easier to put in some cages.


Jeep heritage - only real reason I like it. Well, that and I can get a clear shot off while road raging in stop and go rush hour traffic.


...and why would they do something that makes gas mileage worse? (A more vertical windshield)

Because it looks cool? :-P

In the 100+ degree summers here I appreciate how the vertical windshield keeps the sun out of the cabin. I also think the vertical windshield is what makes the Wrangler look like a Jeep, and I guess by Jeep I mean the Willys. It took me from '07 to '11 to buy a JK because the slanted grille and windshield was such a big departure from the TJ. I think Jeep makes enough models with slanted windshields and torpedo styling.

frenchjk
06-02-2016, 11:05 AM
In the 100+ degree summers here I appreciate how the vertical windshield keeps the sun out of the cabin. I also think the vertical windshield is what makes the Wrangler look like a Jeep, and I guess by Jeep I mean the Willys.

same here......

Brute
06-02-2016, 09:07 PM
Here are a few more...

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That's one hell of a bad vinyl wrap job...I'd want my money back...

ScoobyCarolanNC
06-03-2016, 12:21 AM
Even the dash is wrapped in the side view mirror shot.

frenchjk
06-03-2016, 10:33 AM
That's one hell of a bad vinyl wrap job...I'd want my money back...

:clap2::clap2::clap2:

Sessoms14X
08-12-2016, 10:12 PM
Not sure if ya guys have seen these ones yet. Can see the grille and bit of the headlights on these. Look like HID headlights?
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WxNerd2015
08-24-2016, 01:27 PM
Just figured I would share here. I was headed to work and noticed this rig just looked a bit different, so I snapped a quick pic. If you check out the exhaust pipe, it looks as though this one might be testing out one of the new diesel options for the JL? Idk? But man did it take off fast! I pulled up behind and next to it at a couple lights and it launched from the line awesome! Which makes me excited to see what this option was and what it may be? The rest of the rig looked like a JK mule, but the powertrain I am pretty certain was different!

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JKbrick
08-24-2016, 07:57 PM
Just figured I would share here. I was headed to work and noticed this rig just looked a bit different, so I snapped a quick pic. If you check out the exhaust pipe, it looks as though this one might be testing out one of the new diesel options for the JL? Idk? But man did it take off fast! I pulled up behind and next to it at a couple lights and it launched from the line awesome! Which makes me excited to see what this option was and what it may be? The rest of the rig looked like a JK mule, but the powertrain I am pretty certain was different!

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What is under the tail light? The loop looking thing

Sharkey
08-24-2016, 08:04 PM
What is under the tail light? The loop looking thing

I noticed that too. It almost looks like a mini Kryptonite bike lock.

stormtroopedjk
08-24-2016, 08:14 PM
Love this. Subscribing ! Lol would love to own a diesel

WxNerd2015
08-25-2016, 12:51 PM
What is under the tail light? The loop looking thing


I noticed that too. It almost looks like a mini Kryptonite bike lock.

Yeah...that I was trying to figure out too! It was a rigid piece of metal there, but I could see no use for it! Maybe Piping/tubing of some sorts? Idk what for? Beats me what it could be!

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Here's a zoomed in shot of the diesel exhaust too!

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The Kraken
08-25-2016, 02:03 PM
Not sure if ya guys have seen these ones yet. Can see the grille and bit of the headlights on these. Look like HID headlights?
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The slots are squared off rather than rounded. I hadn't seen those pics yet.

Not real sure what to think about the the leaned back windshield and angle of the the grill. I guess it's one of those have to see in person to actually see how the whole flow of it looks uncovered.

Aztecdiver
08-25-2016, 02:47 PM
I am interested in the diesel but dont want to trade my jeep. I have to much time and money in it. I wonder how long before they make a conversion kit.

justin mazzon
08-25-2016, 11:13 PM
First set of big rocks and that tail pipe is history, in it's current form! Appreciate the picture.

Christarp
08-26-2016, 08:33 AM
Tubing for DEF maybe?

13_gecko_rubi
08-26-2016, 10:10 AM
That exhaust tubing is just for a quick disconnect to the emission testing machines. If you look on the left side u can see the quick release for the fuel line too. You see those exhaust pipes on tons of M plates around here.

Sessoms14X
08-26-2016, 05:50 PM
Looks like the turn signal lights will be squared instead of round? 219690

frenchjk
08-27-2016, 11:10 AM
Looks like the turn signal lights will be squared instead of round? 219690

fender mods are going to become a headache with those lights....>:(