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jkmohican
03-30-2013, 11:29 PM
Hey everyone, first REAL thread here. I recently got a new front bumper and I'm now looking for a winch. I definitely want to go with Warn, and I noticed that they have many different types ( VR, ZEON, POWER PLANT). I'm pretty much just looking for a winch that won't fail me on the trail, yet isn't going to break the bank. I'm trying to keep the price on the lower end, but I don't want to "cheap" out either, and Synthetic vs Wire doesn't bother me. Is it safe to say that any Warn is reliable on the trail? The winch isn't for looks, so Its going to see real trail use!

Side note, I have an Unlimited, so I guess I'm looking at a 10,000? Thanks for all the input!

bdmckenna
03-31-2013, 12:30 AM
Hey everyone, first REAL thread here. I recently got a new front bumper and I'm now looking for a winch. I definitely want to go with Warn, and I noticed that they have many different types ( VR, ZEON, POWER PLANT). I'm pretty much just looking for a winch that won't fail me on the trail, yet isn't going to break the bank. I'm trying to keep the price on the lower end, but I don't want to "cheap" out either, and Synthetic vs Wire doesn't bother me. Is it safe to say that any Warn is reliable on the trail? The winch isn't for looks, so Its going to see real trail use!

Side note, I have an Unlimited, so I guess I'm looking at a 10,000? Thanks for all the input!

Warn is the Granddaddy of winches. They aren't going to fail you. You question depends a lot on what kind of wheeling you are doing and how much you see yourself using it. If you're planning to be in the rocks all of the time then you want something that is pretty stout like a 9500 cti. However, if it is just as a backup and you don't plan on using it much, only in rare emergencies, then look at the lower models. With Warn, the more you pay the better and more usage the winch is designed for.

jkmohican
03-31-2013, 03:06 AM
The wheeling I do is pretty much just a little of everything. I do rocks, mud, anything that's on the trail. But I try to avoid deep mud, so I don't need the strongest winch, and I don't do the biggest rocks, but I still need it to pull me out of the situations that will get me stuck, no "extreme" situations. And I've only been stuck once so far, so it may not be used a whole lot.

CerOf
03-31-2013, 04:24 AM
XD9000i has worked great for me.

If you can swing a 10k winch, go for it!

Warn carries a higher price, but I've yet to hear anyone disappointed.

Quality and reasonable makes me recommend the xd9000i. It and a snatch block and your set. Wire rope is just fine. When it wears out you can then consider syn. I use the wire. When it wears out I'll probably consider syn.


Sent from a a few tin cans and some string.

DJCFHB
03-31-2013, 05:49 PM
I have the 9.5cti on my 4dr and had the m8000 on my 2dr. No complaints about either

paychex.308
03-31-2013, 06:02 PM
the air compressor option with the powerplant is NICE! yes, price tag is tough, but once you have it oh so nice...

andrew -

Prime8
03-31-2013, 08:03 PM
Got an essentially new PowerPlant HD on Craigslist for $1k. Keep your eyes peeled and ask sellers lots of questions. You'll get a lot more bang for your buck that way.

Prime8
03-31-2013, 08:04 PM
Here it is 21894

jkmohican
03-31-2013, 10:15 PM
The power plant looks great, but it seems more than what I need. I was more along the lines of just a basic recovery winch that will get me home. Thanks for all the input. Do you think the VR10000 is pretty good, as you guys said, all Warns are reliable, in trying to get the easiest one I can? I'm not trying to cheap out, but It doesn't look like I need the awesomeness of some of the more expensive ones.

paychex.308
03-31-2013, 11:08 PM
The power plant looks great, but it seems more than what I need. I was more along the lines of just a basic recovery winch that will get me home. Thanks for all the input. Do you think the VR10000 is pretty good, as you guys said, all Warns are reliable, in trying to get the easiest one I can? I'm not trying to cheap out, but It doesn't look like I need the awesomeness of some of the more expensive ones.

just a question... how is it more than what you need? do you lower your air when you wheel? are you looking for a recovery winch, just i case? if you answered yes to those questions, then it is exactly what you need. unless you already have onboard air and then it is too much. but unless you do..... warn makes the hp and the hd, basically 9500 and 12000 lbs respectively (i have been drinking so that might be backwards)... worth every penny!

andrew -

jkmohican
04-01-2013, 12:35 AM
just a question... how is it more than what you need? do you lower your air when you wheel? are you looking for a recovery winch, just i case? if you answered yes to those questions, then it is exactly what you need. unless you already have onboard air and then it is too much. but unless you do..... warn makes the hp and the hd, basically 9500 and 12000 lbs respectively (i have been drinking so that might be backwards)... worth every penny!

andrew -

I do air down when I wheel and I already have an air compressor, so i think it may be wasteful to get the Powerplant. But I get your point, I just don't want or need a big expensive winch. Just a reliable recovery unit, which is why I'm looking at the cheaper Warns.

paychex.308
04-01-2013, 12:40 AM
well u have a way to air up so that part is covered. so it makes sense to no spend the extra $500. the zeons are really nice as it the 9500cti. recovery and safety are something one doesnt want to go cheap. you need it to work when u "need it to work"...

andrew -

jkmohican
04-01-2013, 02:54 PM
Thanks Andrew, I agree. I started looking into the M8000, I heard it has the same components as the RC (I may have that wrong) and is very trusted by all winch users. It seems it will never "take a break" when being used and using a wound motor (I think that's right) which is what I was told is good. Now I guess the question is will a M8000 be strong enough for a JKU since its only a 8000lb winch?

OverlanderJK
04-01-2013, 03:02 PM
Get a 10,000 pound one.

paychex.308
04-01-2013, 05:17 PM
adam is correct. you want a 9500/10,000 winch.

andrew -

Munday
04-02-2013, 01:08 AM
8274 ... do it ... do it..

bl17z90
04-02-2013, 01:26 AM
I want whatever winch mel was using in part.l 3 of the heartland :yup:

Philip *AZ*
04-02-2013, 02:06 AM
I want whatever winch mel was using in part.l 3 of the heartland :yup:

I thought he was runnin the Powerplant, but Im not positive.

bl17z90
04-02-2013, 03:12 AM
I thought he was runnin the Powerplant, but Im not positive.

That would be my guess.


Can someone explain the advantage to the zeon lineup?

jkmohican
04-02-2013, 04:51 AM
Yeah I'm getting a liking for the Zeons. My only issue is I know a guy who tried to mount one to the bumper I have and it didn't fit (the ZEON was too long) without some modifications.

10frank9
04-02-2013, 04:52 AM
Yeah I'm getting a liking for the Zeons. My only issue is I know a guy who tried to mount one to the bumper I have and it didn't fit (the ZEON was too long) without some modifications.

Which bumper?

jkmohican
04-02-2013, 02:54 PM
Which bumper?

Rampage recovery bumper. The sides of the ZEON rubbed against the ends of either side of the middle of the bumper. But again, it's fixable I'm pretty sure.

NFRs2000NYC
04-06-2013, 01:54 AM
Im the guy he's talking about. I was the first one to have a Zeon on a Rampage bumper. I spend damn near an entire day fitting it, but it was worth it. I love it. Used it only once, performed flawlessly. Rampage is aware of the issue and said they will rework the bumper in the near future. Many other manufacturers have issues with Zeon fitment, but some are far easier to fit than others. The rampage is probably the most difficult.

Here is the problem. The winch contacts the bumper before the bolts are fully tightened.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b169/Nirvanaib/BECEA269-C2B4-4F99-B81A-E16A10C8C6A5-10446-00000A639C01A4FC.jpg

Installed before the cover.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b169/Nirvanaib/90902832-DB0C-427C-8B1F-5A9D92285A8E-10446-00000A638E2B3ABB.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8496/8340073700_82263d0d62_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8410508350_ee013d0ee9_c.jpg

DanMojo82
04-06-2013, 01:59 AM
I have a M8000 and love it, so a M12000 would be a great choice. Just don't do the VR series. While I'm sure they don't suck, they were made to compete with the cheaper built in China winches that are all over.

Miramontes
04-06-2013, 03:24 AM
I got the Zeon. Mostly because of the way it looks. I still have not been able to use it. But I'm sure it will do it's job wonderfully.

Chris23180

TRAMjam
04-07-2013, 05:41 PM
I got the Zeon. Mostly because of the way it looks. I still have not been able to use it. But I'm sure it will do it's job wonderfully.

Chris23180

What bumper is that? It looks nice!

Miramontes
04-07-2013, 05:47 PM
What bumper is that? It looks nice!

Thanks, it's the Rough Country Hybrid. It's a good compromise between looks, purpose and price.

Chris

jkmohican
04-07-2013, 06:57 PM
Im the guy he's talking about. I was the first one to have a Zeon on a Rampage bumper. I spend damn near an entire day fitting it, but it was worth it. I love it. Used it only once, performed flawlessly. Rampage is aware of the issue and said they will rework the bumper in the near future. Many other manufacturers have issues with Zeon fitment, but some are far easier to fit than others. The rampage is probably the most difficult.

Here is the problem. The winch contacts the bumper before the bolts are fully tightened.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b169/Nirvanaib/BECEA269-C2B4-4F99-B81A-E16A10C8C6A5-10446-00000A639C01A4FC.jpg

Installed before the cover.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b169/Nirvanaib/90902832-DB0C-427C-8B1F-5A9D92285A8E-10446-00000A638E2B3ABB.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8496/8340073700_82263d0d62_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8410508350_ee013d0ee9_c.jpg

Yup that's who I was talking about, that's what's worrying me about the Zeon, but it looks great on your Jeep. What did you do to fit it on if you don't mind me asking? I'm almost set on this winch. Looks like its performance is as flawless as any Warn, and looks great at the same time.

NFRs2000NYC
04-07-2013, 10:48 PM
Yup that's who I was talking about, that's what's worrying me about the Zeon, but it looks great on your Jeep. What did you do to fit it on if you don't mind me asking? I'm almost set on this winch. Looks like its performance is as flawless as any Warn, and looks great at the same time.

I had to notch a little bit out of the bumper. You can save yourself the headache by not trying to install the winchplate flush with the bumper (when you go to install you will see what I mean) and that extra 1/4" or so will give you the clearance you need. You can also stack a few grade8 washers to lift the winch up a little bit, buy 4 slightly longer bolts and thats that. I was just pissed that day and hacked the bumper. In retrospect I should have just stacked a few washers and have been done with it.