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    Knows a Thing or Two Kalums's Avatar
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    Soldiers pass in Sedona

    I didn't see that anyone else had posted this information, http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconi...d=FSEPRD518392

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    Knows a Thing or Two Kalums's Avatar
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    If you follow the link on the bottom of the page "additional information are available...." it takes you to a site with all the related documents stating they will be implementing option B meaning only guided tours, forest service and emergency services will be allowed in

    Apparently they will be monitoring Broken Arrow now also...

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    Soldiers pass in Sedona

    This is a pretty crooked deal, this allows one company alone to profit from public lands, that the public can now no longer access. Anyone smell corruption? Although it is a short trail, its is scenic and has some significant landmarks to be seen. Although I wish there was no choice to be made, and the trail was to remain as is, I believe the choices should have been 100% open or 100% closed, one or the other.
    I think they've been monitoring traffic on Broken Arrow for quite a while now, the last time I was there, a few years ago, I seem to remember a traffic counter right around the "gate keeper". Others have said there are game cams in the trees, I haven't seen it personally. The Soldiers Pass closure, unfortunately I think will set a precedent for Broken Arrow as well as it's trail head is also in a residential area. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to matter if the trail was there before the homes or not...


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    It's bs. I'm glad I got a chance to run it with my kids again before they closed it. I'd rather see it closed to all vehicle traffic than allow it to be used solely by a private tour business for profit.


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    I've been to Sedona a couple of times and done those trails. I get the impression that the folks who live near the trails aren't very keen on off-roading. I didn't get a warm fuzzy feeling from folks when we were jeeping around town or on the trails. Probably has little to do with the proposal but could be related.


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    I don't get it?? Not only is this going to hurt the Jeep rental businesses, it's also going to hurt all the businesses there. That's a lot of tourism business they're going to lose due to these closures.


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    Wonder how much it cost to buy the forestry division there

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    I dunno but I do know there is A LOT of spare $$$ floating around those neighborhoods near those two trails. Next they will want it closed to Mountain bikers and hikers too, I already see it happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalums View Post
    I dunno but I do know there is A LOT of spare $$$ floating around those neighborhoods near those two trails. Next they will want it closed to Mountain bikers and hikers too, I already see it happening

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    There it is! I've been wheelin' Soldiers and Broken Arrow since the 70's and have watched the homes creeping in on both trails. It was only a matter of time for Soldiers. Last time I ran it was 2012 on a weekday and there was little traffic. Weekends are probably a different story. The nearby residents are definitely bucks up and have the say. It's kinda like folks who build next to an airport and then complain about the noise. Farewell Soldiers, l'll miss you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    There it is! I've been wheelin' Soldiers and Broken Arrow since the 70's and have watched the homes creeping in on both trails. It was only a matter of time for Soldiers. Last time I ran it was 2012 on a weekday and there was little traffic. Weekends are probably a different story. The nearby residents are definitely bucks up and have the say. It's kinda like folks who build next to an airport and then complain about the noise. Farewell Soldiers, l'll miss you.
    I'd say 2013 was the last time I was on either, and it was both weekends and weekday trips. Weekday trips were nice, not a lot of traffic on the trails, or in town. Weekends on the other hand and especially holiday weekends are pretty busy. It's a shame, what money can do.
    I'll never understand that mind set.


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