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    Quote Originally Posted by piginajeep View Post
    The new ones are California compliant
    There should be a label in the engine bay re whether itís 50 state compliant or not. Possibly also determinable by the VIN, although Iím not sure about that.

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    In my experience, Dodge hasn't made a manual Cummins legal in California for years. Or at least that's what I was told when I was in the market for one.

    Don't you already have an FC? 😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by piginajeep View Post
    Did you look at Dennis Dillion Dodge in Idaho ? They have some great prices.
    Yes I did actually look there, prices were good but not what I was looking for with low enough miles. Also I donít recall the right combo with a manual when I was looking. Ended up finding mine in Washington State.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ddays View Post
    The older I get the more I like auto's. We recently picked up a '17 F250 auto. I personally think it makes the whole hookup/parking/manuevering process a helluva lot easier. My wife will also be hauling with it and while she grew up on a manual herself, its one less thing to have to worry about. It does have a manual selector on the shifter that's really easy and convenient to use if you need to shift manually or want to hold a gear.




    I used to agree with this but the newer auto's are pretty damn stout. I've heard of some of the Dodges having auto issues but then I really don't frequent truck/towing forums either. Too bad the Fords & Dodges don't come with that Allison tranny
    I will give you that, definitely depends on the year and you are correct they have gotten A LOT better. Man a Allison combo with a Cummins would be delightful!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by BaddestCross View Post
    In my experience, Dodge hasn't made a manual Cummins legal in California for years. Or at least that's what I was told when I was in the market for one.
    This was my recollection as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddays View Post
    Too bad the Fords & Dodges don't come with that Allison tranny
    One of the reasons why we ended up getting a GMC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddays View Post
    Too bad the Fords & Dodges don't come with that Allison tranny
    I used to have a Duramax for this reason. The new transmissions are pretty good though, at least on the Fords. The older E4ODís sucked but theyíve come a long ways since them. I wouldnít have any hesitation buying one nowadays.


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    Quote Originally Posted by piginajeep View Post
    Ram 2500 Cummins
    I have a 2017 Ram 2500 Cummins with a manual transmission, love that goddamn stick shift rig im keeping it forever.

    I load up a 2500lb truck camper on the bed and flat tow jkur with it - 35ís, full set rockhard steel skids, full rockhard cage, winch etc so pretty heavy I guess and then we pile all sorts of shit in it when towing.

    I did not want to add supplemental brakes to the Jeep so I thought a manual in conjunction with exhaust brake would do the job, which it does very well. Been all over Rocky Mtns and even an emergency stop, no problemo, hardly ever even use brakes for most situations and gives me something to do on long hauls because pushing buttons to shift is gay.

    Now for all I know some auto transmissions diesels have more effective exhaust brakes, but my last truck was a 13í Duramax with auto transmission and exhaust brake hardly did shit. Was a nice truck but would definetly want supplemental brakes on the Jeep with that setup as unnecessarily downshifting with the gay button simply over revved truck and made me look stupid, if it even let me do it that is but maybe I just didn't use the gay button right, fucking hated that gayass button.

    Sidenote on manual Cummins though if you are not aware - they are detuned for the G56 transmission and from what Iíve heard a new clutch is in order for any performance enhancements, supposedly as little as 30hp increase can cause stock clutch slippage.

    Not a huge concern to me as Iím in no hurry, truck hauls like a beast but is not fast at all like the new pussy autos seem to be, oh well.

    Now Iím not sure about older ones but thatís how mine is. Also has some sort of bullshit torque converter that in some instances has dumped power on me if I dont shift it like it wants me too, lots of people really complain about this but Iíve only noticed a few times into fourth gear with an awkward high revved shift.

    Just kind of takes getting used too, but so much fun to lock rear axle, get turbo spooliní and dump clutch in second gear leaving two 50ft patches haha, that should fetch me a new clutch soon enough and probably change my own tune on the performance upgrades.

    Bonus - 35ís fit on these trucks without rubbing on 2Ē leveling kit, love this truck keeping it forever just like the Jeep.

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    12.5 years strong with my Allison, but If I had to do it again right now... Iíd probably buy a Dodge with the Cummins. The IFS is the weak link on the Chevyís. I vote Automatic.

    Edit: I think you can get the Aisin Trans in the 3500 Dodge/Cummins.
    Last edited by TrailHunter; 02-28-2018 at 11:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiend View Post
    There should be a label in the engine bay re whether itís 50 state compliant or not. Possibly also determinable by the VIN, although Iím not sure about that.
    I remember my buddies 2000 Manual Tacoma had less towing capacity than the Auto. Not sure if that is the case with the Dodge. Also I know Kenworth offers an automated manual transmission. Its a computer controlled manual transmission. No clutch pedal or stick. True manuals in trucks are going the way of the dinosaur. I know when I purchased my Sentra last year their CVT had better fuel efficiency but the manual had 6 more horses..haha. OK I'm way off track now. What happened to your Ford?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesse3638 View Post
    I remember my buddies 2000 Manual Tacoma had less towing capacity than the Auto. Not sure if that is the case with the Dodge. Also I know Kenworth offers an automated manual transmission. Its a computer controlled manual transmission. No clutch pedal or stick. True manuals in trucks are going the way of the dinosaur. I know when I purchased my Sentra last year their CVT had better fuel efficiency but the manual had 6 more horses..haha. OK I'm way off track now. What happened to your Ford?
    The Cummins with the manual is detuned significantly to make the trans live. In a 2500 the only auto is the 68RFE which is plenty strong if you leave it stock. In the 3500 you can get the Aisin trans as an option and the engine is actually higher output with the aisin. The aisin the just as strong if not stronger than the Allison. They are very similar transmission designs actually.


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