Cambolt installation

kgw350

kgw350

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Have someone get in the jeep you crawl underneath have them turn the wheel back and forth with the engine off until you find the problem. Like everyone has been saying there is something lose.

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OverlanderJK

OverlanderJK

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BumblebeeZA said:
Thanks guys!

Ok just to get everyone on the same page and how I got to where I am re the DW.

I never had it before the lift, I felt a sliiiiggghhht shimmy going over a bump and that was it.
I then got a 2.5" spacer lift (spacers only, no other bits and pieces)
I installed the spacers and the DW started.

I took them out and no more DW, I then machined them down 20% to get a 2" lift.
DW wobble gone only the slight shimmy as before the lift.
Day 3 and DW came back.

I then got FOX performance 2.0 shocks 1.5"-3.5" lift
DW wobble gone only the slight shimmy as before the lift.
Day 3 and DW came back.

I now installed the Cambolts, and it has help nothing.

Last night I checked my steering stabilizer and noticed it was shot, it has 3cm of play in it.
Now I know you say the steering stabilizer has nothing to do with DW, but Im sure it will certainly help getting a new one in my case.
I will be sending my Jeep in for another check, I just dont trust our dealers here in South Africa, and dont feel comfortable leaving it with the "Jeep specialists" either.

I had 255/75R17 GY Wrangler AT tyres on, I took them off and put 245/75R17 GY Wrangler AT tyres on on to see if that will help, and no it never helped.
My DW is most prone when going around a corner over any size bumps and almost any speed above 50km/h (31mph).
This is where I noticed the SS has the most play too, when extending the stabilizer in or out it has play at a certain length, either way.

My steering box, I dont think is worn out, the play I have seems normal reference to other pre 2012 models.
My Jeep is a 2008 JKUR, 76 000km's (47 000 Miles)

I deflated my front tyres down from 2.4 bar to 2.2bar this morning to hopefully dampen the DW a bit. I drove too slow to work this morning to NOT trigger DW and will drive slow back home tonight, DW is just making me change my underwear to much now :cheesy:
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You need to READ the death wobble thread on here for the possible causes and stop believing the bullshit that people are telling you. We all told you that cam bolts would do nothing and you did it anyway. Now we are telling you the stabilizer will do nothing and you are still going to do it. Read what is written here, let the words bounce around in your skull a little bit, then read the death wobble thread and figure out what the real issue is.
 
BumblebeeZA

BumblebeeZA

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1stly Id like to apologize for for my ignorance :doh:

I climbed under my Jeep, had my wife turn the steering, I see about 3mm play in the tack bar rubber, NOT THE BOLT, but the rubber.
The play is only on the one rubber on the driver side (Im in South Africa) so its the right side.

I do apologize and really guys, thanks for all the input, Ill be sorting this out in the week ahead.
 
Jk909

Jk909

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wayoflife said:
EVERYONE with a solid front axle regardless of vehicle make is prone to get death wobble IF you have loose or worn out suspension/steering components. It's just the nature of the beast and even stock vehicles can get it. Running bigger tires and wheels with less back spacing will speed up the wear of your components. Installing a lift and not tightening your bolts to the proper torque spec will lead to death wobble as well.
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That's about the best explanation I've heard. Thanks for clarifying 👍
 
BumblebeeZA

BumblebeeZA

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Ok guys, you win, Im busy uploading the video to youtube re the track bar bushing.
Once again, I really apologize for being so ignorant.

Its must be track bar related, there is quite a lot of play and I see the whole axle moving.
You will see on the video when I upload it and post it here (slow internet in South Africa :doh:

I would like your opinions on it too though when you see it.
And trust me, this time I WILL listen.

I did this before I asked my wife to turn the wheel for me to see any play anywhere.
Again I loosened all the control arms and track bar, shook my Jeep and retorqued the bolts.
Upper 102 NM and lower + Track bar 169 NM, so this should be ok now too.
 
jeeeep

jeeeep

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sometimes you just have to get a visual on things to find the problem. As you found out, simply checking torque doesn't mean it's tight.

looks like that bushing has lost some of it's girth, but as mentioned many times...well, you know lol

Good to see you taking it all in stride and good to see someone admit they panicked and made all the wrong decisions, it happens. I bet you won't panic next time!

Cheers :beer:
 
Canvas JK

Canvas JK

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BumblebeeZA said:
Ok guys, you win, Im busy uploading the video to youtube re the track bar bushing.
Once again, I really apologize for being so ignorant.

Its must be track bar related, there is quite a lot of play and I see the whole axle moving.
You will see on the video when I upload it and post it here (slow internet in South Africa :doh:

I would like your opinions on it too though when you see it.
And trust me, this time I WILL listen.

I did this before I asked my wife to turn the wheel for me to see any play anywhere.
Again I loosened all the control arms and track bar, shook my Jeep and retorqued the bolts.
Upper 102 NM and lower + Track bar 169 NM, so this should be ok now too.
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Glad you found the problem. I have found that at times slowing down and stepping away from the project for awhile helps me refocus on the problem better.

OverlanderJK said:
That would be your issue. As was stated way back in like the second post.
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Some have different ways of learning.
 
BumblebeeZA

BumblebeeZA

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You beauties have cured my DW!!!!
I F*@king LOVE you all!!!!!!! :eek: :D :thumb:

Ok well its 90% cured, I still get a slight shimmy now when going over a bump, but I tested and never experienced the DW!
I will monitor it for the next couple of days while I wait for parts.

What I did for now is put some M24 washes in, stacked to fill the gaps.
The one end I just just couldnt fit a washer in, so there is like 1mm of play and think this is causing the shimmy the other side is rock solid steady.

I swear a oath to listen and believe you guys from now on.
Once again, please forgive my ignorance, but as mentioned by others as well, I was in a panic.
 
Sharkey

Sharkey

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Good to hear.

Nobody is mad at you. We just wanted you to actually listen to the advice being given to you.
 
OverlanderJK

OverlanderJK

Resident Smartass
BumblebeeZA said:
You beauties have cured my DW!!!!
I F*@king LOVE you all!!!!!!! :eek: :D :thumb:

Ok well its 90% cured, I still get a slight shimmy now when going over a bump, but I tested and never experienced the DW!
I will monitor it for the next couple of days while I wait for parts.

What I did for now is put some M24 washes in, stacked to fill the gaps.
The one end I just just couldnt fit a washer in, so there is like 1mm of play and think this is causing the shimmy the other side is rock solid steady.

I swear a oath to listen and believe you guys from now on.
Once again, please forgive my ignorance, but as mentioned by others as well, I was in a panic.
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Buy a new track bar and your shimmy will probably go away.
 
M

Manvan

Member
Just looked. Energy Suspension, Prothane, Rubicon Express, all sell replacement bushings on eBay for about $30-$35.
 
M

Manvan

Member
What are the options besides replacing with stock? Replacement bushings and aftermarket track bars are both going to have urethane bushings correct?
 
BumblebeeZA

BumblebeeZA

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Ok guys, once again a HUGE thanks, officially my DW is GONE!

I will post my solution and video soon.
I will try upload it tonight, otherwise tomorrow.

I basically put M24 washers on either side of the bushes on both ends of the track bar.
This made the fitting snug and there is no more movement.

I tested without the steering damper and got a slight shimmy when hitting a bump but almost unnoticeable.
The local importer sent me his old stock steering stabilizer for free as mine is busted and useless.

I install it this evening and my DW is officially non existent.
Thanks again for all the help, this forum rocks! :rock:
 
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