DirtHeadDavis
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Well, there goes my plan to get a diesel JL next. Apparently a new 3.0 Straight 6 is in the works though. Should have an amount of power that is in between the 3.6 and the 392. What do y'all think of this?
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benatc1
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Curious to see more about this, but as much as I hate to see it, all signs seem to be point to the end of diesels. Cummins coming out with a gas line, Iām sure diesel fuel will continue to rise to force peole away. Crazy part is some of these new diesels burn cleaner than the gassers.
DirtHeadDavis
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Well shit no kidding? I didn't even know that. Sad.
HighwayTrout
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Lame.
For whatever reason Americans donāt like diesel. Never have. Especially now that electric is being pushed so hard. Diesels have always had a very small market so Iām not surprised if Jeep gets rid of it.
For whatever reason Americans donāt like diesel. Never have. Especially now that electric is being pushed so hard. Diesels have always had a very small market so Iām not surprised if Jeep gets rid of it.
benatc1
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Yea kinda crazy, donāt agree with it but Cummins has been pushing into their next phase to prepare for the coming laws, so Iāll give them credit for that as a company rather than die from legislation, but sad to see.
HighwayTrout
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Where is this Cummins info coming from? I keep hearing the opposite. But who knows
benatc1
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Thatās a good point, only really in the bigger trucks has Americans jumped on. lots of qualities of diesels that i really like, but I think a lot of these emissions standards have pushed people farther away. Donāt get me wrong, I hate the guys who turn up the screws and dump fuel to blow black smoke, but not all diesels are like that, and definitely donāt need to be. Iāll miss it in the 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks, as thatās where my experience is, but Cummins is expecting to reach similar output with gas, So who knows. My dad has been a mechanic since he was 14, specialized in diesels for 30+ Years. Doesnāt need to, but still drives his 04 Cummins with 400k on it because he doesnāt want to mess with all the new stuff. Says he will buy gasser if he ever gets a new truck because all the electronics/emissions shit. Lol.
benatc1
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You can google it, they are doing a bunch with alternative fuels too, hard to say how long everything will actually take but itās all In the pipe line.
DirtHeadDavis
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Yeah that's the truth. The Diesel JL seemed to sell pretty well though, but probably not enough to justify its continuous production.
Do they even still offer the Turbo 4? I don't know anyone that has one
TrailHunter
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This is all to depressing. Weāre losing everything thats Coolā¦ to fucking batteries.
DirtHeadDavis
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What makes me even sadder is the future of the automotive industry. All that mechanical knowledge and skill, passed on from generation to generation, will be thrown out the window - only to save the planet by actually more negatively impacting the planet with lithium ion batteries but telling everyone you're saving the planet which they'll believe because it's different and the government told them so it must be legit... Hypocrisy is the liberal way.
benatc1
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The future of car ārepairā will either be replace the whole assembly or the whole car..crazy sad, and people think itās expensive to fix cars now
TrailHunter
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There is nothing more BORING than Battery Power. I donāt care how much torque and speed they can achieveā¦ Itās still boring.
DirtHeadDavis
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You are exactly right. Manufacturers even know this. The new EV Challenger has fake V8 noises...
DirtHeadDavis
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Teslas are absolutely outrageous to repair. They also burn through tires in 8 to 15 thousand miles depending on the model. They're heavy as hell and its a sign of what's to come. More batteries, more tires, more money, and more range that you can't replenish from 4 to 9 in CaliThe future of car ārepairā will either be replace the whole assembly or the whole car..crazy sad, and people think itās expensive to fix cars now
Kuboske
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I would upvote this post 1000 times if I could.
Kuboske
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I've had a boner for diesels for 50 years...
But, I've heard guys bitch about the smell of diesel in their garage.
True on the newer heavy truck e-diesels. But, back in the day, Cat 3406, 3408, Cummins KTA, there was no fire without smoke. Much cooler time...
Nobody needed a stinking laptop to fix one.
Kuboske
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^^^^^
Amen!!!
Speedy_RCW
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Well CA is trying to fix that power problem. Guess howā¦..batteries. LolTeslas are absolutely outrageous to repair. They also burn through tires in 8 to 15 thousand miles depending on the model. They're heavy as hell and its a sign of what's to come. More batteries, more tires, more money, and more range that you can't replenish from 4 to 9 in Cali
DirtHeadDavis
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Lol of course they are. How will they produce and power them? Oh right, fossil fuels!