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jimcoffey62

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Internet forums are interesting.

1. There are folks with expertise who make a post to share that expertise with others.
2. There are folks who are looking to learn.
3. There are counter experts who disagree (politely and with new info) with #1 above.

at which point
#4. Person #1 has an interesting discussion with #3 and often #2s and we all learn something.

or
5. Person #1 gets pissy because somebody had the audacity to disagree with them.

and then there are
6. Folks who just like to complain, but they add no experience, expertise, nor value.
7. Folks who are intimidated by those with expertise. So they ridicule.

Plus
8. folks who make sarcastic remarks but they are on point and funny.

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The world is a better place and the forum is more productive when we stay in category 1-4 above.
Plus #8. Well placed humor is good.

And in the spirit of full disclosure, it can be difficult to avoid #5. I've done it, not something to be proud of. If you've been on the internet news groups (before the WWW existed) you understand the term "flame war." We learned that without being able to see your face and hear your tone of voice, what you intended as #8 funny sarcasm in good taste - can sound like #6,7.

Being polite costs nothing - and is a sign of strength.
Acknowledging the expertise of others costs nothing - and is a sign of your strength.
 
OverlanderJK

OverlanderJK

Resident Smartass
jimcoffey62 said:
Internet forums are interesting.

1. There are folks with expertise who make a post to share that expertise with others.
2. There are folks who are looking to learn.
3. There are counter experts who disagree (politely and with new info) with #1 above.

at which point
#4. Person #1 has an interesting discussion with #3 and often #2s and we all learn something.

or
5. Person #1 gets pissy because somebody had the audacity to disagree with them.

and then there are
6. Folks who just like to complain, but they add no experience, expertise, nor value.
7. Folks who are intimidated by those with expertise. So they ridicule.

Plus
8. folks who make sarcastic remarks but they are on point and funny.

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The world is a better place and the forum is more productive when we stay in category 1-4 above.
Plus #8. Well placed humor is good.

And in the spirit of full disclosure, it can be difficult to avoid #5. I've done it, not something to be proud of. If you've been on the internet news groups (before the WWW existed) you understand the term "flame war." We learned that without being able to see your face and hear your tone of voice, what you intended as #8 funny sarcasm in good taste - can sound like #6,7.

Being polite costs nothing - and is a sign of strength.
Acknowledging the expertise of others costs nothing - and is a sign of your strength.
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Then there are people who post the same gibberish in multiple threads.
 
WJCO

WJCO

Meme King
jimcoffey62 said:
Internet forums are interesting.

1. There are folks with expertise who make a post to share that expertise with others.
2. There are folks who are looking to learn.
3. There are counter experts who disagree (politely and with new info) with #1 above.

at which point
#4. Person #1 has an interesting discussion with #3 and often #2s and we all learn something.

or
5. Person #1 gets pissy because somebody had the audacity to disagree with them.

and then there are
6. Folks who just like to complain, but they add no experience, expertise, nor value.
7. Folks who are intimidated by those with expertise. So they ridicule.

Plus
8. folks who make sarcastic remarks but they are on point and funny.

--------------
The world is a better place and the forum is more productive when we stay in category 1-4 above.
Plus #8. Well placed humor is good.

And in the spirit of full disclosure, it can be difficult to avoid #5. I've done it, not something to be proud of. If you've been on the internet news groups (before the WWW existed) you understand the term "flame war." We learned that without being able to see your face and hear your tone of voice, what you intended as #8 funny sarcasm in good taste - can sound like #6,7.

Being polite costs nothing - and is a sign of strength.
Acknowledging the expertise of others costs nothing - and is a sign of your strength.
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I like turtles. -Person #3
 
OverlanderJK

OverlanderJK

Resident Smartass
jimcoffey62 said:
Eddie - this is a really good topic for a sticky post. Updated as the state of the art changes.
Your original is also a really good post with pictures and such. Well done sir.

FYI I learned something new about "snatch blocks" the other day when I was at our local sailing supply store.
A snatch block is different from a pulley block, because you can "snatch" an existing line that is in tension by rotating the metal pieces and wrapping the block around the rope. Then apply tension in a different direction. This apparently is a big deal on a sailboat.
When rigging a winch BEFORE you do the pull you can thread the line around pulley blocks to get mechanical advantage. But if you don't do that ahead of time you can't just add a pulley after you have things all rigged up.

ENTER THE SNATCH BLOCK: Once you start the pull, and you realize you don't have enough power and you need more mechanical advantage - you can put a snatch block on the line and rig it back to the load to give you a 2x advantage.

initially I had thought you could do it while things are in tension, but after running through this in my head I think you'd need to chock the vehicle wheels, release tension, add the snatch block - but you don't have to rethread everything. Feel free to correct me if you've done this.

Pulley's and soft shackles are smaller and lighter so I didn't buy a snatch block for my kit.
I
www.alllifting.com.au

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PULLEY BLOCK AND A SNATCH BLOCK

Pulley blocks and snatch blocks are both pulley blocks; these lifting tools have a wheel on an axle designed to help you lift heavy items up to 30 tonne. Pulley blocks give direction to the rope while loaded; they are able to increase the line pull or lifting capacity of a hoist or winch by...
www.alllifting.com.au www.alllifting.com.au
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And a hammer is different than a screw driver. Now that that’s out of the way.
 
bobfriesenhahn

bobfriesenhahn

Hooked
jimcoffey62 said:
Eddie - this is a really good topic for a sticky post. Updated as the state of the art changes.
Your original is also a really good post with pictures and such. Well done sir.

FYI I learned something new about "snatch blocks" the other day when I was at our local sailing supply store.
A snatch block is different from a pulley block, because you can "snatch" an existing line that is in tension by rotating the metal pieces and wrapping the block around the rope. Then apply tension in a different direction. This apparently is a big deal on a sailboat.
When rigging a winch BEFORE you do the pull you can thread the line around pulley blocks to get mechanical advantage. But if you don't do that ahead of time you can't just add a pulley after you have things all rigged up.

ENTER THE SNATCH BLOCK: Once you start the pull, and you realize you don't have enough power and you need more mechanical advantage - you can put a snatch block on the line and rig it back to the load to give you a 2x advantage.

initially I had thought you could do it while things are in tension, but after running through this in my head I think you'd need to chock the vehicle wheels, release tension, add the snatch block - but you don't have to rethread everything. Feel free to correct me if you've done this.

Pulley's and soft shackles are smaller and lighter so I didn't buy a snatch block for my kit.
I
www.alllifting.com.au

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PULLEY BLOCK AND A SNATCH BLOCK

Pulley blocks and snatch blocks are both pulley blocks; these lifting tools have a wheel on an axle designed to help you lift heavy items up to 30 tonne. Pulley blocks give direction to the rope while loaded; they are able to increase the line pull or lifting capacity of a hoist or winch by...
www.alllifting.com.au www.alllifting.com.au
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Applying tension in another direction is important for recovery as well. This is an interesting point.

Is there a Wikipedia page on this topic?
 
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jimcoffey62

Member
On the topic of connecting tow straps when you need more length.


four different methods. Pro and con of each. And a couple of tips on the proper way to load a shackle.
 
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jimcoffey62

Member
OverlanderJK said:
why did you delete the link?
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the reason we developed the web is to have a web of reciprocal links.
before that we had walled gardens and nobody could work together.
compuserve, aol, whole earth lectronic link, arpanet

the beauty of the web is being able to share info via a link. It’s what makes the www great.
 
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OverlanderJK

OverlanderJK

Resident Smartass
jimcoffey62 said:
the reason we developed the web is to have a web of reciprocal links.
before that we had walled gardens and nobody could work together.
compuserve, aol, whole earth lectronic link, arpanet

the beauty of the web is being able to share info via a link. It’s what makes the www great.
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Read the rules and don’t post that shit. Or repost it after it’s been deleted.
 
WJCO

WJCO

Meme King
jimcoffey62 said:
the reason we developed the web is to have a web of reciprocal links.
before that we had walled gardens and nobody could work together.
compuserve, aol, whole earth lectronic link, arpanet

the beauty of the web is being able to share info via a link. It’s what makes the www great.
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You have a problem with authority, Mr. Anderson. You believe you are special, that somehow the rules do not apply to you.
 
CalSgt

CalSgt

Hooked
GP NOIR said:
That explains Al Gore’s contribution
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Fuck Al Gore, what about this politician's contribution to the webs:
440px-Anthony_Weiner,_official_portrait,_112th_Congress.jpg

His history of sending dick pics combined with a name like Weiner resulted in countless memes and an investigation into Hillary's email server. What kind of world would we live in without Congressman Weiner meme's, and Clinton conspiracy theories?

The webs was created for porn, memes and "down the rabbit hole" conspiracies are unintended positive by product.
 
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jimcoffey62

Member
OverlanderJK said:
Read the rules and don’t post that shit. Or repost it after it’s been deleted.
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Read the rules? They would be located on a button marked rules? Or in the new info, or welcome sticky thread?
hmmm, did I miss it?
perhaps as admin you could have added a link to the forum rules to your nastygram above?
make it easier for folks to find the rules so we can follow them perchance?

i posted a link to a very good video that was on topic, well produced, answered some questions on pro and Con various method to link two tow straps… you know… the kind of post that helps folks learn things and become better at safe recovery.

and I managed to do all these posts without once reverting to profanity. Wow.
 
OverlanderJK

OverlanderJK

Resident Smartass
jimcoffey62 said:
Read the rules? They would be located on a button marked rules? Or in the new info, or welcome sticky thread?
hmmm, did I miss it?
perhaps as admin you could have added a link to the forum rules to your nastygram above?
make it easier for folks to find the rules so we can follow them perchance?

i posted a link to a very good video that was on topic, well produced, answered some questions on pro and Con various method to link two tow straps… you know… the kind of post that helps folks learn things and become better at safe recovery.

and I managed to do all these posts without once reverting to profanity. Wow.
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I’m not admin and you agreed to the rules when you signed up. Not my problem you didn’t read then or can’t find them.
 
WJCO

WJCO

Meme King
jimcoffey62 said:
Internet forums are interesting.

1. There are folks with expertise who make a post to share that expertise with others.
2. There are folks who are looking to learn.
3. There are counter experts who disagree (politely and with new info) with #1 above.

at which point
#4. Person #1 has an interesting discussion with #3 and often #2s and we all learn something.

or
5. Person #1 gets pissy because somebody had the audacity to disagree with them.

and then there are
6. Folks who just like to complain, but they add no experience, expertise, nor value.
7. Folks who are intimidated by those with expertise. So they ridicule.

Plus
8. folks who make sarcastic remarks but they are on point and funny.

--------------
The world is a better place and the forum is more productive when we stay in category 1-4 above.
Plus #8. Well placed humor is good.

And in the spirit of full disclosure, it can be difficult to avoid #5. I've done it, not something to be proud of. If you've been on the internet news groups (before the WWW existed) you understand the term "flame war." We learned that without being able to see your face and hear your tone of voice, what you intended as #8 funny sarcasm in good taste - can sound like #6,7.

Being polite costs nothing - and is a sign of strength.
Acknowledging the expertise of others costs nothing - and is a sign of your strength.
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Person # 9. Signs and agrees to things that they didn't actually read.
 
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