Steeper descents dangerous behavior

GP NOIR said:
When off-road, I select a gear that lets me descend without relying on the brakes, whether the rig has an automatic or a manual. Brakes are used sparingly to prevent over-speeding, ease the rig over drop offs and prevent overheating the brakes on long descents.

Under most circumstances, compression braking gives the driver greater control and is smoother than using the brakes alone.

If your technique is to descend using the brakes rather than engine compression and gearing, that’s fine. However, it doesn’t make this thread retarded.
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Brakes have limited thermal shedding capabilities (and wear out) whereas the engine is much larger and has a large cooling system (with radiator and exhaust pipe) to shed heat. When brakes are overheated they stop working very well, and may suffer damage.

It would be nice if the Jeep engine and transmission had special mechanical capabilities to help manage descent, but engines and transmissions are sourced from a worldwide market so they are unlikely to have more than software tweaks to help manage descent.

Anything to save the brake pads and rotors is a good thing. Not retarded!
 
GP NOIR said:
When off-road, I select a gear that lets me descend without relying on the brakes, whether the rig has an automatic or a manual. Brakes are used sparingly to prevent over-speeding, ease the rig over drop offs and prevent overheating the brakes on long descents.

Under most circumstances, compression braking gives the driver greater control and is smoother than using the brakes alone.

If your technique is to descend using the brakes rather than engine compression and gearing, that’s fine. However, it doesn’t make this thread retarded.
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I’ve never ever ever overheated my brakes off road or on road Ever ever never nope doesn’t happen.
 
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bobfriesenhahn said:
Brakes have limited thermal shedding capabilities (and wear out) whereas the engine is much larger and has a large cooling system (with radiator and exhaust pipe) to shed heat. When brakes are overheated they stop working very well, and may suffer damage.

It would be nice if the Jeep engine and transmission had special mechanical capabilities to help manage descent, but engines and transmissions are sourced from a worldwide market so they are unlikely to have more than software tweaks to help manage descent.

Anything to save the brake pads and rotors is a good thing. Not retarded!
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Yes Bob, It's retarded. Looking through this thread you'd think that Jeeps are regularly flying off the roads because their brakes are overheating because the transmissions upshift and don't allow compression braking going down goddam hills. Whats being described is so minor to everyone thats it's only an issue to 2 guys!

I would love for anyone that has overheated their brakes on or offroad and had issues because of that to post up because unless there is some kind of mechanical failure it just doesn't happen. Brakes on Jeeps are probably the one thing that don't have any issues

And brake pads and rotors are inexpensive consumables - there is no reason to "save" them.
 
Ddays said:
I’ve never ever ever overheated my brakes off road or on road Ever ever never nope doesn’t happen.
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I did one time when I was a kid and used up my brakes going down long ass windy hill. Scared the shit out of when the pedal wasn’t doing anything. Learned then and there about downshifting, engine braking and luckily a solid ebrake.

This is a bullshit thread with make believe concerns.
 
Ddays said:
Brakes on Jeeps are probably the one thing that don't have any issues
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I had one issue with my brakes and it was my fault. Forgot to torque a caliper bolt and was coming home from Idaho during a snowstorm. That was scary as hell driving through some windy canyon roads! The caliper was rotating and catching the inside of my wheel.

Like Mike said, downshifting and e braking was key.
 
Ddays said:
Well, give an example. Have your brakes ever failed on your JK or JL or even come close?

If there are no examples to cite there isn’t an issue and yes this thread is retarded.
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Ha! No, I’ve never had the brakes on my JK fail from heat. I learned to not ride the brakes on long descents to prevent them from getting that hot. Point to you.

That’s not to say using engine compression & gearing doesn’t have other benefits, such as greater control in certain situations.
 
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