^^^ This is what I meant ^^^ I just don't care for many of their bylaws or requirements for membership. Some require that you attend a certain number of outings before you can even be a member which is not possible for me as I'm away from home so much. I've even heard of a club banning the use of steel whip antennas because someone got swatted in the face with one. My response to that was that said person maybe shouldn't have been standing so close to it or should've been more mindful that it was there. We even have a local club here that won't let you go on a snow run unless you have a hard top, maybe because someone bumped a tree and got a lap full of snow, I dunno.