2013 JKX build from stock to JKX ready

[Benito]

Benito, I am going to take into account that you owned up to not knowing the people who run the JK Experience, but you are just making a grand assumption.

You are right, that was an assumption.

Even though you may have read through this thread from the start, and all the way to this point, you may be missing the moral of the story: If you take advantage of people who do more for the offroading industry daily (that would be the owners of the JKX) than almost anyone, well do not expect to just get away with it like nothing ever happened. However, If walking away with almost $3000 worth of tires and disappearing with zero explanation of why, and never even attempt to return the tires is cool in your book.....maybe you are on the wrong site :idontknow:

I understood what the "moral of the story" is and I think that whoever has been through the thread understands that as well, and like my first post on this thread today said i believe what this guy did was wrong, there is no question about it. The only way a person can expect to get away with anything is if nothing is ever done about it, all the bashing that goes on here in no way is changing situation or doing something about it. If its about the tires, they are gone, they are never coming back unless some legal action is taken or something.

Now for the most important part: More than just a few people on this site know the owners of the event. Some of those people are even extremely close friends with the owner and his family. I happen to personally know what 13JKUR (original poster and tire thief) did, absolutely did affect the JK Experience owner...... and no, he and his family are not over it. In fact, less than two weeks ago in Moab, it was one of the topics we covered late one night while drinking beers after a great day of wheeling.

Again, I understand you may be new to thread and/or forum, but there is more to this than just a thread that gets a bump occassionally.

So it did affect the people that truly deserve answers for this guys actions, but what can you expect from a stranger? "Not much" should be the answer; "hope for the best, expect the worst".

As for anybody who ever said or thought "I didn't get selected to go the JK Experience, this guy did and he didn't show up,[insert one of the following comments here]":
A) "i wouldn't of had done that if i was selected"
B) "this guy is a [insert adjective/s here], it should have been me"
C) Or any other statement following "I didn't get selected to go the JK Experience"

should have just stopped at "I didn't get selected to go the JK Experience"

Fuck this guy. I have no intention to let this thread die. You know how many people apply that want to go? A lot! This fucker got accepted and ditched with a bunch of free shit that could have went to someone else.

And for everyone else, he stole more then tires. He had other things sent to him as well that he also never sent back. He post on JKF "haha no I didn't go things came up." Yeah he sounds really sorry for what he did.

as for you, you fuck, yeah i understand a lot of people applied to go to this, and yes what he did was wrong in every sense of the word, but the only other person that this affected besides the people that organize this event and the sponsors is that one other person that didn't get selected, if you can identify the individual that didn't get selected because of this guy then he should be the one that have this personal vendetta against this person, not you because the odds are that you weren't going to be selected, unless the selection process is somehow influenced.

Unlike my pal GCM2, I think those that choose to whine about posting on thread can choose to leave.

hey im stating my opinion if you dont like it you can chose to leave, it's the internet and your comment is a two way street bud.

 

[MTG]

You are right,

blah blah blah

TLDR!

Probably full of some bullshit internet logic as to how you somehow got it all figured out and how everyone else is wrong. :yawn:

 

[10frank9]

I don't get it Benito, what is you're gripe here? Are you complaining that this thread gets bumped? So what. Are you they type of person who just won't stop until someone says "you are right"? Even when you aren't?

The way I see it you posted here saying this thread needs to die and there's no sense in bring this up. In any case that's you're opinion and you have the choice not to open and read. I'm just trying to understand if you think you have a dog in the fight.

 

[10frank9]

TLDR!

Probably full of some bullshit internet logic as to how you somehow got it all figured out and how everyone else is wrong. :yawn:

Lol beat me to it. Son of a gun.

 

[Hack12]

Benito, I'm slightly hurt that you didn't quote me in that righteous little rant of yours.

Also, here is a brilliant solution to your problem...hit UNSUBSCRIBE! :yup:

 

[cozdude]

I love when this thread gets bumped cause this dude is a fucking asshat! Someone could of had the experience of a lifetime but this guy took all the free goodies then backed out. I know I would be pissed at this dude for a long time if I was the organizer and/or a sponsor of the jkx


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[newtdog]

Fuck this guy. I have no intention to let this thread die. You know how many people apply that want to go? A lot! This fucker got accepted and ditched with a bunch of free shit that could have went to someone else.

And for everyone else, he stole more then tires. He had other things sent to him as well that he also never sent back. He post on JKF "haha no I didn't go things came up." Yeah he sounds really sorry for what he did.

^^^^ I agree with this 100%


2010 MANGO TANGO SPORT JKU

 

[Sharkey]

...but the only other person that this affected besides the people that organize this event and the sponsors is that one other person that didn't get selected...

Your myopic and egocentric view of this situation is reflective of what ails this country as a whole: no personal responsibility and no recognition of how one's actions might create waves in the pond of life around us.

Sorry, but you are flat-assed wrong. When an act of kindness is met with fraud and deceit, the purveyor of the kindness is much less likely to offer similar kindness in the future.

JKX aside, it's people like you who think insurance fraud only harms the insurance company, or that white collar crime is victimless.

Go sell crazy somewhere else, we aren't buying it here.

 

[GCM 2]

.... but what can you expect from a stranger? "Not much" should be the answer; "hope for the best, expect the worst". ......

Again, this statement shows you don't know much about the JKX and the bond of family and comraderie of participants, past, present and prospective future. The majority of the participants lucky enough to be chosen to attend ARE ALL STRANGERS...... as in they were randomly chosen from different parts of North America and have never met any of the other participants. Although the staff who runs the event does a cursory background check, there is no way to predict someone is going to not only back out at the last minute (not a big deal), but make off with lots of kit too (for some of us, a very big deal not yet willing to forget)

So to use your own logic and words in dealing with your post here and your understanding of how we have made this a cause, with a purpose; "but what can you expect from a stranger?"......"Not much" :bleh:

 

[ttfhell]

You are right, that was an assumption.



I understood what the "moral of the story" is and I think that whoever has been through the thread understands that as well, and like my first post on this thread today said i believe what this guy did was wrong, there is no question about it. The only way a person can expect to get away with anything is if nothing is ever done about it, all the bashing that goes on here in no way is changing situation or doing something about it. If its about the tires, they are gone, they are never coming back unless some legal action is taken or something.




So it did affect the people that truly deserve answers for this guys actions, but what can you expect from a stranger? "Not much" should be the answer; "hope for the best, expect the worst".

As for anybody who ever said or thought "I didn't get selected to go the JK Experience, this guy did and he didn't show up,[insert one of the following comments here]":
A) "i wouldn't of had done that if i was selected"
B) "this guy is a [insert adjective/s here], it should have been me"
C) Or any other statement following "I didn't get selected to go the JK Experience"

should have just stopped at "I didn't get selected to go the JK Experience"




as for you, you fuck, yeah i understand a lot of people applied to go to this, and yes what he did was wrong in every sense of the word, but the only other person that this affected besides the people that organize this event and the sponsors is that one other person that didn't get selected, if you can identify the individual that didn't get selected because of this guy then he should be the one that have this personal vendetta against this person, not you because the odds are that you weren't going to be selected, unless the selection process is somehow influenced.



hey im stating my opinion if you dont like it you can chose to leave, it's the internet and your comment is a two way street bud.

Yeah you fuck. Had to say it I'm one that went as a replacement and was lucky enough not to get the tires that this guy got. Matter of fact I'm the only one on the trip that wrecked a tire so I would've used it instead of selling them. Does that count? You actually lost this battle with your first post.

 

[Benito]

I don't get it Benito, what is you're gripe here? Are you complaining that this thread gets bumped? So what. Are you they type of person who just won't stop until someone says "you are right"? Even when you aren't?

The way I see it you posted here saying this thread needs to die and there's no sense in bring this up. In any case that's you're opinion and you have the choice not to open and read. I'm just trying to understand if you think you have a dog in the fight.

i guess it is that there are too many people that feel like they are more deserving of things when they aren't. The only people that are entitled to hold a grudge is the organizers and sponsors, people that can do or could have done something about it.

I think that if 13JKUR were to come and face the music then everyone could eventually move on. Deservingly, he would get lambasted, ridiculed, and likely banned if he tried to defend his actions, even a little bit. However, the thread could then be allowed to die. Maybe not overnight, but over time.

The fact that he committed felony larceny under the guise of friendship and then flew the coup, never to be heard from again, certainly warrants a little reminding bump every now and again.

13JKUR, you're a snake and a coward. I sleep great at night, how about you?

Benito, I'm slightly hurt that you didn't quote me in that righteous little rant of yours.

Also, here is a brilliant solution to your problem...hit UNSUBSCRIBE! :yup:

It is impossible for this guy to make things 100% again, if he gave back the tires, payed full price for the tires, anything; it won't change what people know about him. He is the guy that ripped of some really nice people, his reputation is ruined and there is no repair. I am not subscribed it comes up in the activity feed.

I love when this thread gets bumped cause this dude is a fucking asshat! Someone could of had the experience of a lifetime but this guy took all the free goodies then backed out. I know I would be pissed at this dude for a long time if I was the organizer and/or a sponsor of the jkx

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Someone could have had the experience of a lifetime but no one knows who that someone is. There is no point in reminiscing in what could have been man. You would have the right to be pissed if you were an organizer or sponsor of this event.

 

[GCM 2]

Yeah you fuck. Had to say it I'm one that went as a replacement and was lucky enough not to get the tires that this guy got. Matter of fact I'm the only one on the trip that wrecked a tire so I would've used it instead of selling them. Does that count? You actually lost this battle with your first post.

Russ,
I am going to need you to delete your above post and choose from one of the multiple choice answers below for any responses dealing with anybody who ever said or thought about going in place of 13JKUR:

As for anybody who ever said or thought "I didn't get selected to go the JK Experience, this guy did and he didn't show up,[insert one of the following comments here]":
A) "i wouldn't of had done that if i was selected"
B) "this guy is a [insert adjective/s here], it should have been me"
C) Or any other statement following "I didn't get selected to go the JK Experience"

should have just stopped at "I didn't get selected to go the JK Experience"

 

[Sharkey]

The only people that are entitled to hold a grudge is the organizers and sponsors, people that can do or could have done something about it.

Are you seriously that stupid? Say it isn't so! Please give me an excuse like you have fibromyalgia, or sensory deprivation disorder, or your mommy didn't let you suckle as a babe?!? Something, anything...perhaps you got crabs the first time you played in Pubassic Park?

No normal person can be that dense. Seriously.

 

[Hack12]

It is impossible for this guy to make things 100% again, if he gave back the tires, payed full price for the tires, anything; it won't change what people know about him. He is the guy that ripped of some really nice people, his reputation is ruined and there is no repair. I am not subscribed it comes up in the activity feed.

I wasn't suggesting that he has any prayer of making things 100% again, that would clearly be impossible. However, your original gripe was that you wanted the thread to die, I merely demonstrated the only path I can see to that end. Forgiveness is another ballgame entirely.

 

[Benito]

Again, this statement shows you don't know much about the JKX and the bond of family and comraderie of participants, past, present and prospective future. The majority of the participants lucky enough to be chosen to attend ARE ALL STRANGERS...... as in they were randomly chosen from different parts of North America and have never met any of the other participants. Although the staff who runs the event does a cursory background check, there is no way to predict someone is going to not only back out at the last minute (not a big deal), but make off with lots of kit too (for some of us, a very big deal not yet willing to forget)

So to use your own logic and words in dealing with your post here and your understanding of how we have made this a cause, with a purpose; "but what can you expect from a stranger?"......"Not much" :bleh:

i know what its like to meet up with a group of strangers and get along with everyone, it makes for a great time, however you don't know these people at any moment they can change and go from having a great time to a really shitty time, you can only hope for the best.

Yeah you fuck. Had to say it I'm one that went as a replacement and was lucky enough not to get the tires that this guy got. Matter of fact I'm the only one on the trip that wrecked a tire so I would've used it instead of selling them. Does that count? You actually lost this battle with your first post.

great so you got to go in his place, i bet you already met the requirements to attend this event when they called you, two thumbs up. But why are you entitled to the tires and other equipment that was given away then stolen?

Russ,
I am going to need you to delete your above post and choose from one of the multiple choice answers below for any responses dealing with anybody who ever said or thought about going in place of 13JKUR:

this doesn't apply to him as he was selected to go, he should have just said "this is awesome, I was selected to go to the JK Experience" and thats it that is all he should feel entitled to

 

[Sharkey]

this doesn't apply to him as he was selected to go, he should have just said "this is awesome, I was selected to go to the JK Experience" and thats it that is all he should feel entitled to

You are absolutely correct. But why stop there? Really, child porn and rape aren't that bad. I mean seriously, the only people who have the right to complain are the immediate victims, right?

(And before you say it...no, I'm not comparing tire theft to child porn. I'm merely illustrating the complete absence of logic in your position.)

 

[MTG]

About time for little Ben to get his own thread. How about a title of "It has Ben(ito) a while that someone knew it all on wayalife"

Hey Benito, I think Big Ben is calling and letting you know it's time for bed. Run along now.

 

[GCM 2]

About time for little Ben to get his own thread......

No way! Benito is actually a very good debater here, he has done a fairly decent job at stating his case, especially against this gang of clowns :icon_crazy: All of his follow up post are quite good, and with multi-quote replies, showing he is at least well versed when compared to any of the others that got their own thread.

 

[OverlanderJK]

i know what its like to meet up with a group of strangers and get along with everyone, it makes for a great time, however you don't know these people at any moment they can change and go from having a great time to a really shitty time, you can only hope for the best.

Every minute you are here I am having a shitty time.

Oh yeah, you fuck.

 

[10frank9]

great so you got to go in his place, i bet you already met the requirements to attend this event when they called you, two thumbs up. But why are you entitled to the tires and other equipment that was given away then stolen?

Wow little Ben, so you are assuming that ttfhell feels entitled to tires? Actually he didn't, doesn't and matter of fact, I'm pretty sure this entire thread is calling out the fact that that jack hole 13jkur was NOT entitled to the tires. But apparently you missed that point.

I know this is hard to understand but most of the people replying to to actually know the owners of ORE who HAVE a stake. Like most people when their friends are done wrongly they come to their aid and support them.


I have yet to hear you have a good reason for your rants. At this point your like a "touched" individual who is pounding their fists trying to prove they are right. But sorry, you are wrong.