2012 Jeep JK 3.6L Check Engine Code P06dd

wayoflife

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Since getting our first JK almost 7 years ago, I have seen a lot of different check engine codes. Typically, they would start off with the capital letter "P" and then followed with a series of 4 numerical digits. For instance, if you had an exhaust leak, you would get a code that looked like this, P0430. Or, if you had a cylinder 6 misfire, you would get a code that looked like this, P0306. Well, over the weekend, I finally got a code on my 2012 Jeep JK Wrangler with a 3.6L motor that kind of surprised me being that it contained 2 of what looked like the lower case letter "d". Specifically, the code I got was P06dd and it was triggered soon after I experienced a sudden inability to accelerate above 3,000-3,500 RPM's. When I first experienced this problem, I was just trying to get on the interstate and get up to highway speeds quickly. When my transmission dropped a gear to get there, the RPM's went up and just as I got to about 3,500, power from the motor simply cut out. If you've ever driven a manual transmission and accidentally tried shifting from 6th gear doing 75 MPH into 1st, that's exactly what it felt like. It was as if a governor kicked in and while I was still moving forward, kind of, the motor was unwilling to give me anything more. Not sure what was going on, I pulled over to the side of the road, turned off the engine, turned it back on and then started on our way again. For a brief period of time, things were back to normal and stayed that way until I tried passing a truck on a hill. When I did that, the same thing happened again. Still not sure what was going on, it did become clear that so long as I kept the motor from running up and above 3,500 RPM's, everything worked okay. And, being that you really don't need to get up into the higher RPM range to drive from point A to point B, I decided to just keep moving on but at a much more conservative pace.

Before heading back for home, Cindy started to do some research and found that a P06dd is a code that is thrown when your oil pressure is too low. Of course, this seemed odd to me be being that I had just done an oil change a few weeks back and even if it were true, I would have thought that an idiot light would have come on to let me know as much. Still, it was all I had to go on and so I decided to start with the obvious - check the oil. And, after pulling out the dip stick, it became clear, that was low... VERY LOW. When all was said and done, I ended up pouring about 4 quarts back in!! While I was glad to know that my engine is smart enough to try and preserve itself, I have to say that it frustrates me to no end that the idiot light never came on. I mean, does it only go off when it's too late? Seriously, if Cindy and I didn't have the means and the know how to look up codes, nothing short of a trip to the dealership would have gotten this easy to fix and critical problem solved.

Long story short, if you're planning on doing a ton of hard and fast driving in the desert for weeks on end, do yourself a favor and keep an eye on your fluids. And, if you ever get a check engine P06dd code, you'll now know what it is and what you'll need to do.
 

Moochie

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I found out the hard way about the oil idiot light. According to the dealership, the light only comes on when you have 0 oil pressure. This is on a 3.8. It could be different on a 3.6. At least yours was going into limp mode and showing a code.

Another question is, how could it have gotten so low of oil?
 

NAUJK

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You are a bit of a Lead foot Eddie :cheesy: ! That does seem very stupid that the idiot light turns on after its too late or not at all... But hey at least you were able to fix it and not have another rig looking to get a new engine! :crazyeyes:
 

wayoflife

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I found out the hard way about the oil idiot light. According to the dealership, the light only comes on when you have 0 oil pressure. This is on a 3.8. It could be different on a 3.6. At least yours was going into limp mode and showing a code.

Yup, it did at least go into limp mode which is more than could be said about what we've seen on 3.8L's. Oh how I miss not having an oil pressure gauge.

Another question is, how could it have gotten so low of oil?

A lot of the people I spoke with who attended the JKX found their motors to be low on oil after the fact. More than likely, it just burned off due to the extreme, hard and fast driving we were doing for a week. Of course, after that, we headed up to northern CA, drove home to socal, dropped off our Jeep to get fixed, picked it up and headed right back out to AZ. Typically, I would do some basic checks and maintenance and would have caught it then but, I just let myself get too busy and missed it.
 

wayoflife

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this is my main question....... how did it drop after a recent oil change?

I don't think the oil change had anything to do with it. I just made a note of it to show that I know it had enough just a couple of weeks back.

You are a bit of a Lead foot Eddie :cheesy: ! That does seem very stupid that the idiot light turns on after its too late or not at all... But hey at least you were able to fix it and not have another rig looking to get a new engine! :crazyeyes:

Lead foot? Me? Nah :blush: I'm sure that played a big factor in the oil loss.
 

cozdude

Guy with a Red 2-Door
I don't think the oil change had anything to do with it. I just made a note of it to show that I know it had enough just a couple of weeks back.

after reading your response to moochie it makes perfect sense of how it could have dropped so low. JKX really does take it toll on everybody and there rigs!
 
For what it's worth, I have found that my 13' burns oil when wheeling. Not sure why but it does. (perhaps the occasional high RPM's of a hill climb). Extended periods of "normal" driving and there is no noticeable oil level change. A weekend of wheeling and 1/2 quart low?
 

Moochie

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I'm sensitive to oil loss. That's how I discovered Smoky's future addiction to oil. Just a routine oil level check and surprise, 3 quarts low. No smoke and no visible leaks.
 

ttfhell

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Yup, it did at least go into limp mode which is more than could be said about what we've seen on 3.8L's. Oh how I miss not having an oil pressure gauge.



A lot of the people I spoke with who attended the JKX found their motors to be low on oil after the fact. More than likely, it just burned off due to the extreme, hard and fast driving we were doing for a week. Of course, after that, we headed up to northern CA, drove home to socal, dropped off our Jeep to get fixed, picked it up and headed right back out to AZ. Typically, I would do some basic checks and maintenance and would have caught it then but, I just let myself get too busy and missed it.

My code last week and nothing above 3000 rpms was due to low oil pressure as well! I asked if the oil pressure light should've come on and the dealer said no because that sensor is for the core and the core oil level was ok. I did run about 400 miles at 4000-6000 rpms at Mach 3 on JKX though. That being said the oil was changed about two weeks beforehand. The dealer changed the oil and its been good since. Not having tons of faith.
 

NFRs2000NYC

Caught the Bug
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Since getting our first JK almost 7 years ago, I have seen a lot of different check engine codes. Typically, they would start off with the capital letter "P" and then followed with a series of 4 numerical digits. For instance, if you had an exhaust leak, you would get a code that looked like this, P0430. Or, if you had a cylinder 6 misfire, you would get a code that looked like this, P0306. Well, over the weekend, I finally got a code that kind of surprised me being that it contained 2 of what looked like the lower case letter "d". Specifically, the code I got was P06dd and it was triggered soon after I experienced a sudden inability to accelerate above 3,000-3,500 RPM's. When I first experienced this problem, I was just trying to get on the interstate and get up to highway speeds quickly. When my transmission dropped a gear to get there, the RPM's went up and just as I got to about 3,500, power from the motor simply cut out. If you've ever driven a manual transmission and accidentally tried shifting from 6th gear doing 75 MPH into 1st, that's exactly what it felt like. It was as if a governor kicked in and while I was still moving forward, kind of, the motor was unwilling to give me anything more. Not sure what was going on, I pulled over to the side of the road, turned off the engine, turned it back on and then started on our way again. For a brief period of time, things were back to normal and stayed that way until I tried passing a truck on a hill. When I did that, the same thing happened again. Still not sure what was going on, it did become clear that so long as I kept the motor from running up and above 3,500 RPM's, everything worked okay. And, being that you really don't need to get up into the higher RPM range to drive from point A to point B, I decided to just keep moving on but at a much more conservative pace.

Before heading back for home, Cindy started to do some research and found that a P06dd is a code that is thrown when your oil pressure is too low. Of course, this seemed odd to me be being that I had just done an oil change a few weeks back and even if it were true, I would have thought that an idiot light would have come on to let me know as much. Still, it was all I had to go on and so I decided to start with the obvious - check the oil. And, after pulling out the dip stick, it became clear, that was low... VERY LOW. When all was said and done, I ended up pouring about 4 quarts back in!! While I was glad to know that my engine is smart enough to try and preserve itself, I have to say that it frustrates me to no end that the idiot light never came on. I mean, does it only go off when it's too late? Seriously, if Cindy and I didn't have the means and the know how to look up codes, nothing short of a trip to the dealership would have gotten this easy to fix and critical problem solved.

Long story short, if you're planning on doing a ton of hard and fast driving in the desert for weeks on end, do yourself a favor and keep an eye on your fluids. And, if you ever get a check engine P06dd code, you'll now know what it is and what you'll need to do.

From my experience, the oil pressure light is not really an idiot light, but a death light. If you see it, it's too late. A better question would be where the hell did 4 quarts go? The pentastar doesn't really eat oil in my experience. In fact, I get a perfect 6 quart drain everytime I do a change (3 so far) using Mobil1. Thats very very strange.
 

wayoflife

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My code last week and nothing above 3000 rpms was due to low oil pressure as well! I asked if the oil pressure light should've come on and the dealer said no because that sensor is for the core and the core oil level was ok. I did run about 400 miles at 4000-6000 rpms at Mach 3 on JKX though. That being said the oil was changed about two weeks beforehand. The dealer changed the oil and its been good since. Not having tons of faith.

No kidding!! Seems like there's a pattern here for sure. Glad to hear you got it taken care of.
 

Sharkey

Word Ninja
The pattern is that Chrysler/Fiat wants all JKU owners to do motor swaps, they just don't want to offer the motors on the front end. :cheesy:

Too bad for them that many people are now going with GM powerplants. :thumbs:
 

wayoflife

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From my experience, the oil pressure light is not really an idiot light, but a death light. If you see it, it's too late.

From what I have seen, this is an accurate statement. If you see the light, it's too late :naw:

A better question would be where the hell did 4 quarts go? The pentastar doesn't really eat oil in my experience. In fact, I get a perfect 6 quart drain everytime I do a change (3 so far) using Mobil1. Thats very very strange.

Honestly, this is the first time I had seen this happen but, even as ttfhell stated (was on the JKX), it happened to him as well.
 

NFRs2000NYC

Caught the Bug
From what I have seen, this is an accurate statement. If you see the light, it's too late :naw:



Honestly, this is the first time I had seen this happen but, even as ttfhell stated (was on the JKX), it happened to him as well.

Yup, used to see it on Hondas and acuras all the time. If you have a vehicle with an oil pressure gauge, AND it has an alarm, AND you have lightning reflexes, you might be able to save your motor if you shut it off fast enough, but 9.9 times out of 10 it's not gonna happen. I am happy to hear however, that the Jeep is smart enough to sense this issue and limp itself, buying you a little bit of time before grenading. If it allowed you to rev out past 3500rpm to redline, I fear your thread title would read "pentastar is dead, time to build up rubicat with an LS."
 

Strainger

Caught the Bug
Good observation re the missing oil pressure gauge, Eddie. It makes no sense not having one in a 'do everything" kind of vehicle like the Jeep. All my previous vehicles had that gauge and it was a great way to monitor when to check oil levels. Oil pressure a little low? Time to check oil level as well.

I hope to get that problem solved sometime in the not too distant future.
 

Moochie

Active Member
My light never came on. I had a low oil pressure problem and didn't know it until my crank bearings were toast.
 

rooster

New member
I basically ran my 3.8 dry (<1 qt) twice ... oops. The idiot light does not come on until the end.

But she keeps on going and still as powerless as she ever was.
 
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