Actually, you can buy and own an AR-15 style rifle in California. They may look a little different because the rifle has to be "featureless", but they are functionally not really much different (with the exception of the new detachable magazine issue.) I think the "featureless" laws are pretty stupid and, with every law they pass, the manufacturers come up with creative ways around the law. I have plenty of friends who lawfully own and shoot AR style weapons in California. Here is a link generally explaining the requirements if you are interested:
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/california-legal-ar-15/.
The AR debate is really interesting to me on many levels. As far as I know, you can't carry one concealed for personal protection in any state in the country. I haven't really heard anyone argue that they need one on their person every day out in public...or ever out in public.
There are Rifle lengths and pistol lengths. Michigan is an open carry state but requires CPL to conceal. The 10” barrel pistol AR is required to be registered as a pistol just like normal handguns, and may be concealed or carried in a vehicle (with CPL) the same as other handguns. ATF has extremely strict rules of what can and can’t be classified as an AR pistol and what accessories turns it into a SBR which requires tax stamp. I don’t personally know anyone that actually carries one, but it would be legal to do so. You may not however conceal a rifle or carry a rifle/long gun in the vehicle (besides transport unloaded/locked/trunk obviously).
And for the rant section of the post as I see most of you actually are interested in having conversation vs fight. A hunting style rifle with a Wood stock is just as deadly as an AR. Any moderately experienced shooter can reload quickly, so imo “high capacity” arguments are just pointless. The style of grip or the ease of adding attachments for personalization doesn’t make it any more deadly then any other rifle, neither does the black paint. And AR 15 stands for Armalite Rifle 15 not assault rifle, when actual firearm owners enthusiasts etc hear the term “assault rifle” we roll our eyes and stop listening to you, one of the most fundamental reasons that this debate is stuck is that the anti gun crowd refuses to learn or understand anything about firearms and then try to tell the pro gun crowd what they can and can’t do.
The one and ONLY thing I believe that California has implemented that in my own opinion makes sense, is requiring a gun safe in households with minors. Quick access safes and gun vaults have existed for years and work great and keep things secure enough to prevent accidents and rides in backpacks. That is a reasonable middle ground, if it’s not on your person it’s secured, and it still has the same quick accessibility of a night stand drawer.
And I’ve read a few times throughout this thread and in memes how “just imagine all the people in a Walmart guns out looking for an active shooter” “it happened in Texas everyone’s carrying down their and it still didn’t stop him.”
Things that I carry are for my personal protection and the protection of the people around me. In no scenario will I be searching for a shooter walking around a Walmart with an ak wearing Kevlar with a .45 and a t shirt. Find cover, if engaged you then have the ability (and hopefully skill and training) to put up a fight, if not engaged you stay put and sheltered or flee if safe to do so.
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