Project "Thanos" Build
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DWiggles
Caught the Bug
Oh man! Too much skinny peddle! Stock rear shafts?
WJCO
Meme King
Shaft break or axle bearing go out? Why was it loose?
Sithwindu
Member
I'm in the same bit bro! I got some gnarly chipped spider gears too, I kinda wanna blame wildcat for it lol not sure how long they will last
How are the shafts?
WJCO
Meme King
That will be tricky getting that out. At least you found the problem.
WJCO
Meme King
Couldn't you just pull the cross pin and pull the spider gears out? Wouldn't that be easier than removing the carrier bolts?
iRonin
Member
Good thought; I had considered it but that shaft end is pressed up tight against the cross pin (I tried prying it away and it won't budge) and by my eye it doesn't seem like the cross pin can clear the ring gear - can it?
WJCO
Meme King
It should clear the ring gear. But regardless, if that axle stub is stuck, pulling the cross pin probably won't speed up any of your time.
iRonin
Member
Good to know. Looking down the axle tube I am 99% sure the remaining piece doesn't extend past the carrier bearing, so the whole unit should come out. Prob is it's bound up pretty good with preload. Got the caps removed and I'm throwing 2-3x the leverage it usually takes to pop one out and it's laughin at me. Hit pause for now to get some lunch and I'll be back at it later with a case spreader.
iRonin
Member
Project "Thanos" Build
Back at it- case spreader did the trick and let me get the carrier out:
Yukon R&P are fine (well done sirs) but the shaft break ate up the inner bearing wall on the carrier:
Plan is to pull the ring off, migrate to a new carrier, and clean the $h out of the pinion, tubes and housing.
Here's a profile shot of the ring with the crosspin behind it. Only 1/2" gap between em to try to slide out a 5" inch pin, ain't no way that's goin down without removing the ring
Back at it- case spreader did the trick and let me get the carrier out:
Yukon R&P are fine (well done sirs) but the shaft break ate up the inner bearing wall on the carrier:
Plan is to pull the ring off, migrate to a new carrier, and clean the $h out of the pinion, tubes and housing.
Here's a profile shot of the ring with the crosspin behind it. Only 1/2" gap between em to try to slide out a 5" inch pin, ain't no way that's goin down without removing the ring
WJCO
Meme King
Back at it- case spreader did the trick and let me get the carrier out:
View attachment 173018
Yukon R&P are fine (well done sirs) but the shaft break ate up the inner bearing wall on the carrier:
View attachment 173019
Plan is to pull the ring off, migrate to a new carrier, and clean the $h out of the pinion, tubes and housing.
Here's a profile shot of the ring with the crosspin behind it. Only 1/2" gap between em to try to slide out a 5" inch pin, ain't no way that's goin down without removing the ring
View attachment 173020
Sure looks that way. Are you going to upgrade the shafts and put a locker in?
iRonin
Member
Shafts are cheap enough that I probably will (and should have) upgrade. Negative on the locker; within the next 4-5 mo I'll have enough for the prorock which is what I was holding out for
For grins I decided to see what it would take to get the stubs out without disturbing the ring gear- turns out a flathead slides just past the center pin enough to tap it down, but it will start to bind before you can drive it all the way out, so I just dropped in a couple flat nuts that fit through the gap and used them as spacers until it popped through
iRonin
Member
Project "Thanos" Build
The grapplers have been on since April... mileage I'm not 100% on, maybe 3-4k tops but I have a short commute daily. More to the point I've wheeled on them ~ 7 times since then which usually means 3-4 sessions per weekend running 2-3 hours per session. My style is more crawlin than haulin, so I think one of the primary factors this weekend was having to use way more skinny pedal than I typically need to because the trails were sloppy wet. By the time it broke I had already been out 3 times before and had to bump a few tough obstacles including the same obstacle on the same trail that I ran the night before.
Also, prior to the grapplers those same axle shafts were turning 35" Kelley TSRs for well over a year and I can't put a number on how many offroad miles that was... this was before I had a membership to Hidden Falls and I have a stack of 15+ entry passes just from that park.
Update on last night:
The loaner shaft my buddy brought in was a bare shaft (no retainer/seal/bearing/tone ring) so it was a trip to O'Reilly's for a replacement bearing, and chopping the old hardware off the busted axle to steal its retainer and tone rings to migrate them over. Additionally, the replacement carrier that the ring moved to was close on backlash but a little too tight, so we'll be pulling it back out to re-shim before it all goes back together with the new shafts. Still, the work on the loaner was enough to get Thanos off the rack and on 4 wheels for the night.
The new shafts should be in today, so I'll take some pics during that assembly process... and I should be back on the road and stronger than ever by this evening
The grapplers have been on since April... mileage I'm not 100% on, maybe 3-4k tops but I have a short commute daily. More to the point I've wheeled on them ~ 7 times since then which usually means 3-4 sessions per weekend running 2-3 hours per session. My style is more crawlin than haulin, so I think one of the primary factors this weekend was having to use way more skinny pedal than I typically need to because the trails were sloppy wet. By the time it broke I had already been out 3 times before and had to bump a few tough obstacles including the same obstacle on the same trail that I ran the night before.
Also, prior to the grapplers those same axle shafts were turning 35" Kelley TSRs for well over a year and I can't put a number on how many offroad miles that was... this was before I had a membership to Hidden Falls and I have a stack of 15+ entry passes just from that park.
Update on last night:
The loaner shaft my buddy brought in was a bare shaft (no retainer/seal/bearing/tone ring) so it was a trip to O'Reilly's for a replacement bearing, and chopping the old hardware off the busted axle to steal its retainer and tone rings to migrate them over. Additionally, the replacement carrier that the ring moved to was close on backlash but a little too tight, so we'll be pulling it back out to re-shim before it all goes back together with the new shafts. Still, the work on the loaner was enough to get Thanos off the rack and on 4 wheels for the night.
The new shafts should be in today, so I'll take some pics during that assembly process... and I should be back on the road and stronger than ever by this evening
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DWiggles
Caught the Bug
The grapplers have been on since April... mileage I'm not 100% on, maybe 3-4k tops but I have a short commute daily. More to the point I've wheeled on them ~ 7 times since then which usually means 3-4 sessions per weekend running 2-3 hours per session. My style is more crawlin than haulin, so I think one of the primary factors this weekend was having to use way more skinny pedal than I typically need to because the trails were sloppy wet. By the time it broke I had already been out 3 times before and had to bump a few tough obstacles including the same obstacle on the same trail that I ran the night before.
Also, prior to the grapplers those same axle shafts were turning 35" Kelley TSRs for well over a year and I can't put a number on how many offroad miles that was... this was before I had a membership to Hidden Falls and I have a stack of 15+ entry passes just from that park.
Update on last night:
The loaner shaft my buddy brought in was a bare shaft (no retainer/seal/bearing/toner) so it was a trip to O'Reilly's for a replacement bearing, and chopping the old hardware off the busted axle to steal its retainer and toner rings to migrate them over. Additionally, the replacement carrier that the ring moved to was close on backlash but a little too tight, so we'll be pulling it back out to re-shim before it all goes back together with the new shafts. Still, the work on the loaner was enough to get Thanos off the rack and on 4 wheels for the night.
The new shafts should be in today, so I'll take some pics during that assembly process... and I should be back on the road and stronger than ever by this evening
:thumb: bet its nice to see it sitting on the ground again! What shafts are you planning on running long term? I am assuming you aren't going to stay with factory rears? Glad to see things are working out for Thanos and yourself.