Ball Joint vs Kingpin vs BJ delete

desertrunner

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Curious on thoughts and opinions between the 3. Seems most manufacturers have stuck with the ball joint route, where Fusion went Kingpin. Researching the junkyard alxe route the BJ delete seems to a be fairly common thing to do. Just curious about the pros and cons from the people who have used them, while i dream of 1tons some day.
My no experience opinion seems to think the Kingpin sounds better than a ball joint, but why then have people like dynatrac stuck with ball joints. And would a ball joint delete even be worth it on anything other than a junk yard D60?
 

wayoflife

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Way back in yesteryear, ball joints were way too small and without question, had issues. Today, ball joints are WAY BIGGER AND BEEFIER and do well and to the point where they perform better than old king pins. That said, the king pins that companies like Fusion uses are big and beefy and are very strong but not to the point where a modern day big ball joint is junk by comparison. In other words, if you're buying something like a PR60, you should feel confident that the ball joints that come with it will be up to whatever you throw at it.
 

desertrunner

Active Member
Way back in yesteryear, ball joints were way too small and without question, had issues. Today, ball joints are WAY BIGGER AND BEEFIER and do well and to the point where they perform better than old king pins. That said, the king pins that companies like Fusion uses are big and beefy and are very strong but not to the point where a modern day big ball joint is junk by comparison. In other words, if you're buying something like a PR60, you should feel confident that the ball joints that come with it will be up to whatever you throw at it.
Just for apples to apples comparison that a modern ball joint (say dynatrac) and a modern kingpin (Fusion) are similar in strength and therefore the pro of little to no maintenance on a kingpin makes it more desirable? Or is there a pro to the ball joint over the kingpin that makes the maintenance worth it?
 

wayoflife

Administrator
Staff member
Just for apples to apples comparison that a modern ball joint (say dynatrac) and a modern kingpin (Fusion) are similar in strength and therefore the pro of little to no maintenance on a kingpin makes it more desirable? Or is there a pro to the ball joint over the kingpin that makes the maintenance worth it?
The Fusion kingpins are the real deal. Apples to apples, they are what I would probably run.
 
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