California's Record-Breaking New Solar Plant Is Already Irrelevant

[NFRs2000NYC]

Oh, and since you asked, California is one of the largest economies, and the feds will always try to prop it up if the SHTF, so as a federal tax payer, it does concern me when one of the most populated states in the country is on the verge of collapse.

 

[OverlanderJK]

You really need to stop eating pissed on corn flakes. Can we not talk about things anymore? I thought this place was called the pub for a reason? You really need to calm down.

I'm really calm. I was just making a statement.

 

[NFRs2000NYC]

They spent millions on new steam tubes built by Mitsubishi in Japan. After installation the tubes cracked (bad engineering) and leaked radioactive water. Due to costs and red tape it was more economical to shut it down.

Ouch, I wonder why they didn't just build the tubes on their own....

 

[NFRs2000NYC]

I'm really calm. I was just making a statement.

It wasn't a statement, you were trying to say that unless I live in California I have no business discussing anything about California.

 

[JK's JK]

They spent millions on new steam tubes built by Mitsubishi in Japan. After installation the tubes cracked (bad engineering) and leaked radioactive water. Due to costs and red tape it was more economical to shut it down.

But your talking about Japan and the safety is so huge compared to USA. I personally haven't been to the Nuclear plant yet but it's a safe process. As long as it's managed correctly.

(I just want to make it clear that I am not a spokes man for any company)

 

[NFRs2000NYC]

But your talking about Japan and the safety is so huge compared to USA. I personally haven't been to the Nuclear plant yet but it's a safe process. As long as it's managed correctly.

(I just want to make it clear that I am not a spokes man for any company)

I just find it odd that we are not capable of building our own powerplants and oversee that they are done right.

 

[Moochie]

Ouch, I wonder why they didn't just build the tubes on their own....

It was a massive job. Access had to be opened up in the concrete containment walls. The tubes were part on new steam turbine replacements - 2 reactors. There is legal action being taken against Mitsubishi.

 

[NFRs2000NYC]

It was a massive job. Access had to be opened up in the concrete containment walls. The tubes were part on new steam turbine replacements - 2 reactors. There is legal action being taken against Mitsubishi.

Oh Im sure it was a mammoth project, just that it saddens me that even things like infrastructure are being outsourced...it seems like we all care about made in the USA suspension, lights and bumpers, but when things really matter, we outsource the project....seems sad.

 

[Moochie]

Some info about San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Onofre_Nuclear_Generating_Station

 

[MTG]

I didn't take it as instigating...I just probably wouldn't have looked at the thread again but for being quoted.

A lot of things to respond to in that post, and don't have the time to respond to each. However this I agree with 100%...

A little fiscal responsibility would do the state some good.

 

[JK's JK]

I just find it odd that we are not capable of building our own powerplants and oversee that they are done right.

At work today I wanted some trees to be cut down for a Radio repeater to be installed for the near future. To give you the short and skinny, just found this out today, when it some how effects, disturbes, destroys or related to habitats, eco systems, pollution or related, anyone can sue on the behalf of that species, eco system, habitat or related. And if they loose or win a law suite, the federal government will reimburse you fully. If anyone can sue, even if they dont have the money, its no loss to them. Its a federal law!!!

(And no I'm not a lawyer nor do I know law)

 

[Moochie]

I just find it odd that we are not capable of building our own powerplants and oversee that they are done right.

It was built in 1964 by Bechtel, a U.S. Company.

 

[NFRs2000NYC]

It was built in 1964 by Bechtel, a U.S. Company.

I meant fixing it or whatever needed to get done.

 

[MTG]

But your talking about Japan and the safety is so huge compared to USA. I personally haven't been to the Nuclear plant yet but it's a safe process. As long as it's managed correctly.

:thinking: One word...Fukushima.

 

[NFRs2000NYC]

:thinking: One word...Fukushima.

To be fair, it seems the plant was safe, just that no one thought 3 moves down the line and prepared it for a tsunami....poor planning more than poor construction.

 

[JK's JK]

:thinking: One word...Fukushima.

I'll ask a person about Nuclear power plants tomorrow. I'll get back to you.

 

[Moochie]

I meant fixing it or whatever needed to get done.

I think Bechtel was still doing all the maintenance on this station. Mitsubishi made the new replacement tubes in the replacement generators. Maybe the complete generators - I'm not sure of this.

 

[MTG]

poor planning more than poor construction.

Then the plant was not safe...to be fair.

 

[RubyinUtah]

The Fukushima reactors are not a safe design and sadly they were made by an American company GE. Most countries have prohibited the use of the GE suitcase reactors because of their overall lack of containment capabilities.

 

[SDG]

Where I live in CALIFORNIA a 1 Billion dollar desalinization plant is being built. It will supply 7% of the San Diego area water needs. We live in a desert with the majority of our water imported from the Colorado River. Thanks for all the kind words about our State!
http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2014/Jan/07/carlsbad-desalination-plant-drought-poseidon/

Nice pic!!! I used to work there Moochie!!! All those little goodies floating out in the water


Funny thing is the company where I work now was recently acquired by a NJ based company that decided to shutdown all operations in NJ and relocated to SD. Apparently it must not be all that bad out here.