LS swap into a 97 TJ

WJCO

Meme King
It looks like Oregon is only an obd test state. So no visual and no sniffer test. Theoretically I could run a straight pipe to a muffler and then a tail pipe so I'm legal for sound... I could put a shelled cat on there if I get pulled over. And I can reprogram. The ECU to ignore the O2 sensors. Anyone have any input? Just worried about wiring for the sensors.

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If you can legally get by without a cat, then yes, I would say reprogram to ignore the o2. Your upstream sensor will serve as the PCM input to the air/fuel ratio based on your combustion byproduct and the downstream sensor will serve only to tell the pcm that the cat is working or not. If you leave both there with no cat, it will trip the engine light. I helped a friend build an offroad vehicle out of a pickup that he didn't drive on the road anymore, and we had to removed cat (again, this was legal and for offroad use and no longer used on the street), and we actually left the upstream cat plugged in like normal, but we tied the downstream one off to the side where it was exposed to normal fresh air. It actually worked, he never had an engine light come on and it ran fine.
 

Strodinator

Caught the Bug
Thanks WJCO, small delay here, Novak just informed me that the adapter plate is back ordered. They are going to get back to me when the parts guy is out of a meeting but this could really screw everything up. I was hoping to be done in three weeks and now it looks like I'll be riding my motorcycle into snow season.

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Brute

Hooked
If you can legally get by without a cat, then yes, I would say reprogram to ignore the o2. Your upstream sensor will serve as the PCM input to the air/fuel ratio based on your combustion byproduct and the downstream sensor will serve only to tell the pcm that the cat is working or not. If you leave both there with no cat, it will trip the engine light. I helped a friend build an offroad vehicle out of a pickup that he didn't drive on the road anymore, and we had to removed cat (again, this was legal and for offroad use and no longer used on the street), and we actually left the upstream cat plugged in like normal, but we tied the downstream one off to the side where it was exposed to normal fresh air. It actually worked, he never had an engine light come on and it ran fine.

That's pretty sneaky...I like it. I was having some downstream O2 sensor issues that were throwing engine codes awhile back...but the good news was that it led to a retune of my engine as it was running too rich and now it never ran better and increased mpg as well...
 

Strodinator

Caught the Bug
It's been a while. Lost motivation for a while and just let it sit. Now that it's getting icy I really need to get going on it again so today I cut off the passenger motor Mount and ground it smooth. IMG_20171227_132930_11.jpg IMG_20171227_132939.jpg IMG_20171227_135258.jpg IMG_20171227_135311.jpg I also finally removed the driver side fender. IMG_20171227_160152.jpg IMG_20171227_160201.jpg more work later tonight but first I get to go to a winter Hawks game.

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PT1400

New member
Really coming along! Next time I'm up your way I'm gonna have to get a hold of you and come check it out!
 

Strodinator

Caught the Bug
Pictures were too big so I have to go through Tapatalk which I hate doing. I got the other motor mount off. Then just for you guys I hoisted the motor up and test fit it without mounts yet. I have to say I got pretty excited when it was in place. Some finishing for for today until I get back later, I got the Novak adapter plate on which took close to an hour because the alignment pins weren't working right. Nothing a BFH wouldn't fix. Also got their custom flywheel on and it looks great. IMG_20180123_115740.jpg IMG_20180123_115749.jpg IMG_20180123_132150.jpg IMG_20180123_132158.jpg IMG_20180123_132213.jpg IMG_20180123_145334.jpg IMG_20180123_145340.jpg IMG_20180123_145349.jpg IMG_20180123_145359.jpg

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boardsurfer

Active Member
Awesome thread!

If you can legally get by without a cat, then yes, I would say reprogram to ignore the o2. Your upstream sensor will serve as the PCM input to the air/fuel ratio based on your combustion byproduct and the downstream sensor will serve only to tell the pcm that the cat is working or not. If you leave both there with no cat, it will trip the engine light. I helped a friend build an offroad vehicle out of a pickup that he didn't drive on the road anymore, and we had to removed cat (again, this was legal and for offroad use and no longer used on the street), and we actually left the upstream cat plugged in like normal, but we tied the downstream one off to the side where it was exposed to normal fresh air. It actually worked, he never had an engine light come on and it ran fine.

MmHmm, I understood some of those words.
 

Strodinator

Caught the Bug
Well small delay. After counting the flywheel I noticed what appeared to be a defect in the build. The actual plate had some separation from the backer plate with the ring gear. Sent some photos to Jeff at Novak and he agreed with me and sent a fresh one out.

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WJCO

Meme King
Well small delay. After counting the flywheel I noticed what appeared to be a defect in the build. The actual plate had some separation from the backer plate with the ring gear. Sent some photos to Jeff at Novak and he agreed with me and sent a fresh one out.

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Good thing you caught it now.
 

Strodinator

Caught the Bug
Good thing you caught it now.
I was taking a look and thought "huh I don't think that's supposed to be separated". A little bummed because most if the physical work is assembling the drivetrain now and this is going to keep me waiting. IMG_20180123_202122.jpg IMG_20180123_202128.jpg IMG_20180123_202134.jpg IMG_20180123_202142.jpg

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Strodinator

Caught the Bug
I got the new flywheel in yesterday. The guys at Novak were great at getting this shipped out and making my wait time less. Got it mounted and the clutch system installed. Then I got the studs set for the bell housing and made sure they were all straight. I ended the night with a fun mod. Because who doesn't need a bottle opener on their Jeep? IMG_20180131_114440.jpg IMG_20180131_114451.jpg IMG_20180131_115400.jpg IMG_20180131_122107.jpg IMG_20180131_122112.jpg IMG_20180131_131729.jpg IMG_20180131_131734.jpg IMG_20180131_131739.jpg IMG_20180131_201134.jpg IMG_20180131_201147.jpg

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