Outer axle tube seals worth it?

[jeeeep]

you can get full circle rings for the stock shafts, need to measure the thickness of the current clip then get a good measurement on the needed diameter

https://www.mcmaster.com/#retaining-rings/=19x1bje

 

[BaddestCross]

you can get full circle rings for the stock shafts, need to measure the thickness of the current clip then get a good measurement on the needed diameter

https://www.mcmaster.com/#retaining-rings/=19x1bje

Good info. Thanks!

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[boardsurfer]

Tough day, Doug. Wish I could have stayed a little longer.

 

[tinyten]

Reasoning behind front axle sleeves?

 

[Slimebones]

Reasoning behind front axle sleeves?

Back in the day, it was thought sleeves would prevent axle from bending. But turns out the axle can still bend where the tube joins the pumpkin!


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[tinyten]

Yeah I figured it would there, that's the point of a truss to prevent that.

 

[WJCO]

Yeah I figured it would there, that's the point of a truss to prevent that.

Sadly, even with a truss these OEM axles can come apart where the tube meets the pumpkin. Just happened to one of our members this year.

 

[tinyten]

Sadly, even with a truss these OEM axles can come apart where the tube meets the pumpkin. Just happened to one of our members this year.

Is there anything that can be done to prevent it? Other than going to a different axle

 

[WJCO]

Is there anything that can be done to prevent it? Other than going to a different axle

Not really. With that being said, plenty of guys run OEM axles for a long time with no issues. But the truss and sleeve thing has been proven wrong time and time again. OEM axles can still fail regardless of sleeves and trusses.

 

[RUBEERCON]

Has anyone welded the tubes to the pumpkin? I have a RSE clam shell kit I'm about to weld up along with outer gussets. Not sure it will do much but I can't see it hurting anything either.




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[Strodinator]

Has anyone welded the tubes to the pumpkin? I have a RSE clam shell kit I'm about to weld up along with outer gussets. Not sure it will do much but I can't see it hurting anything either.




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I have on a Ford 8.8 and I can say it has never broken at the pumpkin, however I don't know if it would have anyways. Plus with that axle it has to be done anyways because the axle tubes are known to spin loose.

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[WJCO]

Has anyone welded the tubes to the pumpkin?

The pumpkin is cast iron and the tubes are steel. Factory drills through the pumpkin all the way and plug welds it.

 

[DWiggles]

Has anyone welded the tubes to the pumpkin? I have a RSE clam shell kit I'm about to weld up along with outer gussets. Not sure it will do much but I can't see it hurting anything either.




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The pumpkin is cast iron and the tubes are steel. Factory drills through the pumpkin all the way and plug welds it.

:yup: :beer:

 

[madstiles]

Welding cast is different than steel but is possible. That doesn't mean it will hold but it might. I know you want to preheat the cast and control it cooling down. Their are different ways but wrapping with a welding blanket probably the easiest. Check some welding pages they would have more Info.

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[Gadget]

I have read that the heat from welding on the truss can warp the housing, kind of defeating the purpose.


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[Desert Crawler]

I have read that the heat from welding on the truss can warp the housing, kind of defeating the purpose.


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If you don't know what you're doing it can.


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[2011jk]

Nothing wrong with front axle outer seals...

Fixed it

 

[HighwayTrout]

Nothing wrong with outer axle sleeves...

Outer?

Hmm

 

[WJCO]

Nothing wrong with outer axle sleeves...

In Slimebones' case, his axle shafts are actually rubbing on them and creating a noise. So they are causing an issue.

 

[Slimebones]

In Slimebones' case, his axle shafts are actually rubbing on them and creating a noise. So they are causing an issue.

I have been absent lately so sorry for the delayed response. Being that my ball joints are worn, the camber is off, causing the axle shafts to rub ever so slightly on the inner sleeve, if that makes sense. Perhaps the inner sleeves were not installed perfectly concentric when they were welded in, but the point is that the clearance between them and the shafts is reduced and if the ball joints are worn, the axles ride "higher" in them.